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As for crack ....please explain why anyone would use it if cocaine were legal.
Because cocaine has more intense effects when smoked. Users were free-basing long before anybody ever called the prepared nuggets 'crack.'
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Crack and free base are not the same thing. Crack is to free base as raw sewage is to pure water. There is a reason for the bumper sticker that says "crack kills"
Crack is an impure and highly adulterated form of cocaine.
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Legalization will solve the impurites and adulteration issues. Some will continue to choose to smoke their coke. Personally, I've heard the leaves brew into a mighty invigorating tea. To each their own.
I've been reading this thread and clearly some of the opinions presented here regarding legalization of drugs come from people who have no firsthand experience with what exactly these drugs do to people compared to alchocol and tobacco.
When I was a teenager and was into the whole "Rave" thing, I experimented with a lot of drugs. Marijuana was the only thing I did on a consistant basis. Everything else I tried on a "one time" basis, because I simply curious. This includes crack and freebased cocaine. A "Curiousiy kills the cat" kind of thing now that I reflect back on my life and the experiences.
The experiences are essentially the same. Both produce the same effects. Crack is just a hell of a lot more powerful.
Both still create "the itch", the craving and desire for more and more and more. The itch from freebase coccaine is just easier to resist.
Regardless, because of this, both crack and freebased serve no other purpose than to get people addicted and keep them coming back for more.
You can have one drink of alchocol and very easily walk away from it the rest of your life. You freebase coccaine or smoke crack one time and thats all it takes for that "itch" to start.
Both experiences were incredibly hard to walk away from and never do again in accordance with my "one time and never again" contigency I had created for myself.
The idea that legalizing coccaine will solve the crack problem is just unrealistic. Crack started because people freebasing coccaine wanted a better and more convient product. People will just take the more easily available coccaine and use it to create crack.
Why? Because the difference between crack and free base coccaine is the adulterization. You light up, hit the pipe, and the product goes coursing threw your bloodstream straight to your brain. The concentration of crack means that you get a much higher and potent dose straight into your blood stream, which makes a better high.
Both highs only last about ten to fifteen minutes and then wear off, being replaced with the "cracked out" fealing and "the itch". Because of time constraints, you cant ever get as good or as pure of a high with freebase coccaine that you can with crack because it takes a hell of a lot longer to get the substance into your body.
Because of this, crack wont just disapear because people can legally freebase coccaine.
Regardless, legalizing it and allowing corporations is a form of corruption that makes tobbaco companies look like the Red Cross. Both crack and freebase coccaine exist to be get people fucked up, get them addicted, and get them coming back for more.
People can drink alchocol without becoming instantly addicted and habitual about it. They can drink it in moderation without any real loss of coherence. Tobacco has just as powerful of addiction as crack and free base coccaine, but it doesnt affect your coherence and it certainly doesnt put people out on the street.
Crack and free base coccaine are all this rolled into one. A company legaling selling it is ethically repulsive far beyond that of tobbaco companies.
I advocate sending drug offenders and users to clinics as opposed to jail and strengthing the social contigencies regarding the harmful effects of their use like we have done with cigarettes. I advocate us taking less focus off fighting the drugs and more focus on getting people off them.
The reason why I dont do any of these drugs anymore has nothing to do with who sells them. It has to do with firsthand experiences with what they do and the consequences of the behaviors...something that does not get enough publicity. Knowledge that I acquired threw hard knocks because wasnt provided by social contigencies.
One night in a neighborhood destroyed by crack, one look at the teeth of a meth user, one day in the apartment of heroine addicts, and watching the mental reprucissions of exstacy on myself and my friends is what has created my strong hatred for drugs and reinforced my contigencies against using them.
We dont need commercials with catchy slogans or scientifc lectures on the effects of narcotics. We need images and pictures of the things I've listed above plastered everywhere.
Finnaly, given my personal first hand experiences with how these drugs actually work and what they have done to many people I have known, the idea of allowing companies to sell for an actual profit is repugnant and is only creating a new form of corruption.
Marijuana? Sure. But anything outside of that, its just a bad idea in my opinion.
< Message edited by MadRabbit -- 7/7/2007 7:35:35 PM >
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