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RE: Drug Legalization - 7/10/2007 4:22:03 PM   
uwinceismile


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Status: offline 		i always have to wonder about the "natural" argument.
i mean, poison ivy grows naturally, i dont see folks clamoring to smoke it:)
why is it that folks think natural is better?
i dont see folks getting drinking water from the local creeks...they buy botled,,or get it from thier tap,,where the county has added,,and taken away many ingredients.
just curious

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RE: Drug Legalization - 7/10/2007 7:44:58 PM   
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RE: Drug Legalization - 7/10/2007 8:37:29 PM   
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Just my 2 cents...addicts get 3 tries at detox/rehab, then the death penalty. They don't care about the misery they create, why should we be forced to support them in their farce? They have already chosen a living death. I don't see any incentive for sobriety or wellness. This one implies a terminal committment.  And yes I would invoke this on my own family member if needed..
So don't waste time splitting hairs about this drug and that one...it's all misery and destruction of lives and families and businesses and ethics and productivity to support yourself in society..etc.  An addict will move on to another drug if he can't get his drug of choice, then he has two devils owning him...or more.  
I might be just a little pissed off when people who masturbate about the positive aspects of drug legalization may not have had the joy of a family member/loved one/etc creating a positive learning experience of the wonderful world of drug addiction for them.
If you really promote drug use; start giving free dope to children so they don't miss any time enjoying this marvelous experience. I'm in a pissy goddamn mood and I dream of the day when all drug addicts die in their fucking sleep  so the rest of us can  not worry about  being robbed or murdered or lied to or manipulated  and on and on and fucking on.
Damn that was big nasty 2 cents.



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RE: Drug Legalization - 7/10/2007 8:46:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: BlindDescent

Just my 2 cents...addicts get 3 tries at detox/rehab, then the death penalty. They don't care about the misery they create, why should we be forced to support them in their farce? They have already chosen a living death. I don't see any incentive for sobriety or wellness. This one implies a terminal committment.  And yes I would invoke this on my own family member if needed..
So don't waste time splitting hairs about this drug and that one...it's all misery and destruction of lives and families and businesses and ethics and productivity to support yourself in society..etc.  An addict will move on to another drug if he can't get his drug of choice, then he has two devils owning him...or more.  
I might be just a little pissed off when people who masturbate about the positive aspects of drug legalization may not have had the joy of a family member/loved one/etc creating a positive learning experience of the wonderful world of drug addiction for them.
If you really promote drug use; start giving free dope to children so they don't miss any time enjoying this marvelous experience. I'm in a pissy goddamn mood and I dream of the day when all drug addicts die in their fucking sleep  so the rest of us can  not worry about  being robbed or murdered or lied to or manipulated  and on and on and fucking on.
Damn that was big nasty 2 cents.



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i dont get it....the government does it every day on a much larger scale and you want to pick on and murder the incontinent?  Why not get the people who roll out the red carpet for this crap instead?  Have you noticed that the opium crop that the cia is growing in afghanastan is thriving better than ever this year?  Might even be a bumper crop!   Its especially good since they got rid of most of their competition. (the mafia)

i have to agree a real ray of sunshine!


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RE: Drug Legalization - 7/10/2007 8:46:26 PM   
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ok, elect me and ill keep drugs illegal.....but all herbs will be legal for you to use in any way you wish to......and crimson gets to keep her alkeehaul too


you have my vote. This whole thing reminds me of two things one the bumper stick that sasy god made weed man made beer who do you trust and a comedian who pointed out that compared to other narcotic weed isn't a 'real' drug. Weed grows naturally, once dried rolled and smoked you get an effect. where are every other drug ont he market has to be proccessed and cooked chemicals added etc. But of course if you want less hassel there are legal bud varieties that do exist.

but then again i am happy with my bottle of cold vodka straight from the motherland and my hookah


CrimsonMoan:
Not so dear lady.  Opium,Coca,peyote,mescaline and mushrooms  can be used straight from the plant.  Chocolate, coffee and tea with only a bit more processing are also essentially ready to ingest with little processing.
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RE: Drug Legalization - 7/11/2007 5:12:37 AM   
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drug addiction isnt trreated as a criminal issue......

crimes that some addicts commit to feed there addiction is treated as a criminal issue tho

( ya dont see many food addicts stealing hams from the grocery store)


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RE: Drug Legalization - 7/11/2007 5:16:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BlindDescent

Just my 2 cents...addicts get 3 tries at detox/rehab, then the death penalty. They don't care about the misery they create, why should we be forced to support them in their farce? They have already chosen a living death. I don't see any incentive for sobriety or wellness. This one implies a terminal committment.  And yes I would invoke this on my own family member if needed..
So don't waste time splitting hairs about this drug and that one...it's all misery and destruction of lives and families and businesses and ethics and productivity to support yourself in society..etc.  An addict will move on to another drug if he can't get his drug of choice, then he has two devils owning him...or more.  
I might be just a little pissed off when people who masturbate about the positive aspects of drug legalization may not have had the joy of a family member/loved one/etc creating a positive learning experience of the wonderful world of drug addiction for them.
If you really promote drug use; start giving free dope to children so they don't miss any time enjoying this marvelous experience. I'm in a pissy goddamn mood and I dream of the day when all drug addicts die in their fucking sleep  so the rest of us can  not worry about  being robbed or murdered or lied to or manipulated  and on and on and fucking on.
Damn that was big nasty 2 cents.




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RE: Drug Legalization - 7/11/2007 8:40:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		 wow.. I agree that weed low addictive things should be legalized it's kind of dumb to go to jail for smoking a joint, and a waste of money. But, i had no idea there were people in the world who would advocate legalizing crack.. etc.. smh. That is just really sad. But then i guess there are people in the world who would advocate anything (bestiality , child molestation) so i guess i really shouldn't be surprised.

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RE: Drug Legalization - 7/11/2007 9:20:25 AM   
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 wow.. I agree that weed low addictive things should be legalized it's kind of dumb to go to jail for smoking a joint, and a waste of money. But, i had no idea there were people in the world who would advocate legalizing crack.. etc.. smh. That is just really sad. But then i guess there are people in the world who would advocate anything (bestiality , child molestation) so i guess i really shouldn't be surprised.


...seems to me that there is a difference between abusing ones own body and abusing other peoples or animals bodies. Drug abuse that does not lead to other crimes ought to be seen as a medical matter, not a legal one.

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RE: Drug Legalization - 7/11/2007 3:45:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: uwinceismile
...why is it that folks think natural is better?...


because it IS, better.  for some, ingesting synthetic toxic pharmeceuticals do worse damage than the symptoms they are taken for.  synthetic substitutes can warp the natural structure(s) of the human body and cause organ sysytems to be defective, if not shut down...synthetic dope also affects offspring, if taken while pregnant, with various forms of cancer, mild to extreme physical, mental and/or emotional birth defects, etc.
 
for example, after millions of women had been given the dope, the FDA finally stopped giving their ok to give pregnant women the synthetic estrogen diethylstilbestrol when the offspring of these women started dropping dead in their late teens from a rare form of vaginal and cervical cancer directly related to the massive doses of the synthetic hormones received in utero.

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RE: Drug Legalization - 7/11/2007 3:53:14 PM   
uwinceismile


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Status: offline 		mercnbeth,
i agree that in many ways,,manmade is not as good,,,,,
i was ribbin those stoners that say,,dude,,its from mother earth...it has to be good
so i gave a few examples that showed my point....
weed, is not a big issue with me, i dont smoke it,, dont want my kids to smoke it,,or anyone i care about for that matter....
but i am open to the idea of decriminalizing it.....it goes against every instinct i have,,but im trying to keep an open mind
costa

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RE: Drug Legalization - 7/11/2007 3:54:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: uwinceismile

i dont see folks getting drinking water from the local creeks...they buy botled,,or get it from thier tap,,where the county has added,,and taken away many ingredients.



Well, when I was a kid I backpacked all over the High Sierras and thorougly loved drinking water from the creeks with my Sierra Club cup.

Then the Department of the Interior bowed to beef interests and allowed grazing at high altitudes.

Now most of the streams are infected with Giardia and Liver Flukes.

Yay.  I think.

Sinergy

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RE: Drug Legalization - 7/11/2007 3:57:26 PM   
uwinceismile


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i was right there with you,
in fact im still an avid outdoorsman,,and think nothing of drinking from wild water supplies..
i enjoy spending days at a time afield

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