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SirMIkeSD -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 1:40:03 PM)

Female - NO,
Kids  -  NO,
Nuts - NO,
Poor - Yes,
Disabled - Depends on the level since I live on a boat.

Mike





MasterBuffalo -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 5:39:39 PM)

You know a person is a person know matter what are who they are you can give a hand up to any one but if they don't want a help up and just looking for a hand out then I don't  care who they are they most show that they are wanting to help them self's before I will think of doing any thing for them but if they're want to work and help them self's then I will be there .




slaveluci -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 7:54:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MzMia
Maybe living in a trailer.......and eating beans every night type of poor.

This makes me poor[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m20.gif[/image]????  It's a nice trailer and I have a different kind of beans every night[8D].  Just kidding, MzMia.  I grew up living in a trailer and eating lots of beans and other homegrown garden vegetables and we never thought we were poor.  Ok, I'll butt out now.  Great question, btw............luci




MzMia -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 8:01:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: slaveluci

quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia
Maybe living in a trailer.......and eating beans every night type of poor.

This makes me poor[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m20.gif[/image]????  It's a nice trailer and I have a different kind of beans every night[8D].  Just kidding, MzMia.  I grew up living in a trailer and eating lots of beans and other homegrown garden vegetables and we never thought we were poor.  Ok, I'll butt out now.  Great question, btw............luci



Awww luci, I started to take out the trailer park last night.
There is NOTHING wrong with living in a trailer OR being poor.
I actually eat beans a lot myself!
I should have said tar paper shack!

I really wanted to see how accepting people would admit to being.

Please don't take this personally.
Many people just are not accepting of people in certain situations.
 
I have enjoyed seeing the answers!

For me, I am not sure about the 4 kids myself.
Many disabilities would not bother me.
The mental illness also would not bother me, IF the person took their medications,
got counseling if needed, and did not use their mental illness as an EXCUSE for their behavior.




MzMia -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 8:07:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: doctorindenver

Yes, Yes, Yes .... I would take a Sub of Slave that was poor, not in good health or disabled ... in fact, I have had a number of them that were in that situation in my 20+ years in the lifestyle.   I can provide for a good home and food on the table.  I've had the female do the house work and yard work  (that was her contribution to the household)   while I went out and earned the $$$$$.

Kids on the other hand, DO complicate the matter a bit ... but I did a have one once and it worked out quite well for a couple of years., hence I would not rule it out either.

I am currently seeking to EXPAND my Poly Household in South Denver and most certainly would consider the INDIVIDUAL, not her $$$ nor her ability/disability.    (no males, please) 

Those interested should apply ... I'm Woody3333 at aoldotcom with a DETAILED application and pics.

THANKS !

-- Doc
(yes, I AM a real one)

]

You are a sweetheart, if I ever become a submissive I will call you.
LOL, you have to apply?




slaveluci -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 8:59:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia
Awww luci, I started to take out the trailer park last night.
There is NOTHING wrong with living in a trailer OR being poor.
I actually eat beans a lot myself!
I should have said tar paper shack!

I really wanted to see how accepting people would admit to being.

Please don't take this personally.
Many people just are not accepting of people in certain situations.

MzMia,
I didn't take it personally at all.  I was only making a joke.  Though there are those who would say such things in a mean-spirited way, I know that you did not and would not[:)].  I was only kidding.  This is a great idea for a thread and I hope more people will answer.  You're right that many people can be pretty unaccepting.  The answers have been interesting.  You're one cool lady, MzMia[;)].  Thanks............luci 




MzMia -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 9:02:51 PM)

Aww thank you luci.
Many of us are far from perfect, yet that is what many here seek.
Thanks a lot.[;)]




TigerNINTails -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 9:03:14 PM)

Hey MzMia,

I've seen this thread for the past couple of days, but due to being slow with each thread, due to reading from beginning to end, didn't get to it before now...

Poor isn't a concern. I grew up in an environment where needs were met, but extras were rare, so someone elses financial situation is not a concern, so long as they are at least "self supportive". I'm working my ass off right now to get into a position where I can support my current slave, so she can tell SSI to go fuck themselves.

She is not only poor, but has kids, and the last of her three is 14 at this time. She also is poor, not as a result of not doing smething to educate herself and improve her life, but rather from the unfortunate circumstance of her disability.

So yes on the count of disabilities, though I have to say it might matter how bad the disability is. Not being able to hear isn't an obstacle, neither is not being able to speak. I'm not fluent, but ASL (American Sign Language, NOT Age Sex Location) isn't new to me either. I have deaf friends...

Her disability (oddly enough, it's neurological, not psychological, yet Social Security seems to have their heads up their asses and think it's the same thing) is similar too, but not related to Narcolepsy. She was diagnosed with IH (Idiopathic Hypersomnia) over eight years ago, and her training was in medicine, as a nurses assistant. She has to be on a couple medications to prevent the "black-outs" and keep certain portions of her brain firing. So she couldn't hold that job any longer, and simply hasn't figured where to fit in again, so that's that. With any persistence and luck, I'll have that problem licked within the next 6 months.

She doesn't have any sort of mental disorders, but call me a glutton for punishment (masochistic in my own way I suppose), that wouldn't have hardly any bearing either. After all, I actually married a woman that was a loon and survived over 5 years in that relationship, hardly worse for wear, so I don't see how someone actually diagnosed and on proper medications would make a relationship more difficult than that one.

So now that I've given more background than is necessary, the short answer is:

Poor: Sure, money can be earned, income increased and does not overtly eliminate a persons inherent value in service.

Physical disability: Where there is a will, there is a way... All detriments can be overcome, with time and the proper insight.

Mental disability: Again, with proper attention to the proper areas, so long as the person wasn't a total psychopath or sociopath, I don't see how most issues couldn't be overcome. Again, with time, proper insight and perhaps proper medication.

It goes without saying, that if you find someone that matches you, you find someone that matches you, and that should be all that matters. That you make one another happy in the relationship is the ultimate goal.

Further, if something tragic happened and even if she became bed-ridden or something, or paralyzed from the waist down, or lost an arm in an accident, or an eye, or any other number terrible things to happen to someone... Even if she started losing her mental faculties (which are sharp as a finely honed razor as they stand right now), I wouldn't abandon her. Nor would I feel trapped by it. That's my integrity... If I give my word to someone, I'm more than happy to follow through on it, till I can no longer do so. And forming a relationship of this level is ultimately about your word.

Without it, you've nothing... Are nothing.

Peace.




MzMia -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 9:11:43 PM)

TigerNINTails, this is the best post I have read on here EVER.

I think I will copy and paste it.

What a wonderful Gentleman and Master you are!
Kudos to you!!!!
[sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif]

People like you help me restore my faith in human beings.
I actually feel like crying.
Thank you, from someone far from perfect.
Funny I am listening to Sunshine on my shoulders, by John Denver.

Thank you for sharing, you have given many people on here some hope.

 




LadyHugs -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 9:19:13 PM)

Dear MzMia, slaveluci, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
Being a thoughtful person and seeing ideas and creative juices flow;  I would not blink twice if I had a double-wide mobile home.
 
These are a few advantages I see in being 'mobile.':
 
Mobile homes are mobile.  Instead of packing, its just unplugging things and getting a tractor to haul.  Double wides, a temporary wall is affixed and you can watch home be on the road and reassembled in no time flat.  Don't have to haul in and out of fixed homes.
 
No basements!  No steps down to the pits--or dungeon.  Of course some may have storm cellars dug for those areas that are prone to tornados.
 
A third mobile home and or double wide can act as a dungeon space.  Or, a connecting add one, that connects to two mobile homes that is enclosed for privacy. 
 
I haven't really looked at mobile homes though--I don't know if tripple and quad wide mobile homes are available or not.  In addition, ramps could be made to access the doors and such.
Through my travels, some very vintage mobile homes are still in service.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs
 




slaveluci -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 9:29:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHugs

Dear MzMia, slaveluci, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
Being a thoughtful person and seeing ideas and creative juices flow;  I would not blink twice if I had a double-wide mobile home.
 
These are a few advantages I see in being 'mobile.':
 
Mobile homes are mobile.  Instead of packing, its just unplugging things and getting a tractor to haul.  Double wides, a temporary wall is affixed and you can watch home be on the road and reassembled in no time flat.  Don't have to haul in and out of fixed homes.
 
No basements!  No steps down to the pits--or dungeon.  Of course some may have storm cellars dug for those areas that are prone to tornados.
 
A third mobile home and or double wide can act as a dungeon space.  Or, a connecting add one, that connects to two mobile homes that is enclosed for privacy. 
 
I haven't really looked at mobile homes though--I don't know if tripple and quad wide mobile homes are available or not.  In addition, ramps could be made to access the doors and such.
Through my travels, some very vintage mobile homes are still in service.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs
 

Now THAT'S what I call putting a positive spin on livin' in a trailer[:D].  There's a silver lining in every cloud.  There ARE triple-wides available though I'm not sure if there's a quad-wide.  Now that would be something to see.  I kid about "trailer-livin'" because it involves negative stereotypes that so many people think is acceptable to spread (not you, MzMia, of course).  I simply don't think it's any more acceptable than stereotyping and making fun of any other class, race, sex, etc.  So, I guess I'm a bit of a self-appointed trailer-livin' defender and advocate.  Somebody's gotta take up for us[;)].  Thank you both.....................luci 




TigerNINTails -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 9:30:17 PM)

Gah! It's not all that, I'm just bein' honest. And myself. I don't know if that's anything to cry over. Well, maybe for some people. [:D] That's twice in as many days that you've given me (of directed them towards me) clappy smilies...

Keep that chit up and I'm gonna feel like I'm on a game show.[:D]

Thanks though. Just posting this thread does a lot to shine on your character as well.

Peace.

TNT




MzMia -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 9:34:11 PM)

Thank you so much.[:)]
But seriously, many of us need to read what you wrote.
There are not many that would take on what you have.
You are marvelous!




marklisa1993 -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 9:41:32 PM)

We would take in a slave that was poor and has children. We had a slave once that was bipolar and she took her medicine on schedule. We wouldn't be able to have a slave that was in a wheelchair because we have steps in almost every room of our house. And we wouldn't have one that was blind or deaf. But other disabilities would be okay. We would consider them just like we consider any else.




LadyHugs -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 9:50:12 PM)

Dear TigerNINTails,
 
Per chance have you made any inquires to the agencies that address the investigations into discrimination of those with disabilities?
 
May I have you consider looking into these sites:
www.fhwa.dot.gov/civilrights/hqdir.cfm
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/civilrights/hqdir.cfm
 
and:
 
www.hhs.gov/ocr/discrimdisab.html
http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/discrimdisab.html

I will add that American Civil Liberties attorneys do work pro bono.  They may give some assistance and often give free advice.

May I also invite your consideration, into looking into : American Nurses Association.
At times there are those nurses who may not be able to handle the full job of nursing but, their knowledge and talents still exist.  Age, injury, illness and or disabilities -- perhaps they may provide ideas as to creatively use her art of healing by; perhaps answering telephones, screening over the phone and or something that fits her personal well being and such.  Perhaps she can work in researching medical documents for errors and or quality nursing issues.  Lawsuit investigations at times need experts.  Nurses' advocates--for those who can use a champion or someone with experiences.  Billing and such.  Perhaps there can be some direction or assistance they can provide to a fellow nurse.

Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs




TigerNINTails -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 10:03:06 PM)

MzMia,

My willingness to take someone on, yes, I can see commendable in that. But here's the thing, that I don't think is so over the top. She's not crippled in the sense of physically, other than the blackouts, that come on occasionally without her meds...

She has both arms, all of her fingers on both hands, two thumbs, two healthy eyes, a full head of hair, a beautiful smile, a perfectly (in my opinion, as well as many others) formed nose, both legs, a nice ass, a wicked imagination etc.... I mean, I could go on, but I don't think it's necessary...

My point is there is by far more right with her than there wrong with her, or challenging... Her issues are handled by medication, and she's with it enough to take them on time (or mostly... When I get up there, that's going to be the impetus for lots of sadistic fun [:D] ), so she doesn't have the issues... I mean, other than having to take meds, noone knows she has a disability so I'd hardly consider it one.

Even as I was considering her for collar, I knew of her disabilities, financial situation and her children. Along with her past history in relationships and the abuses she's suffered over the years...

Over all, she's very well balanced and a brightness in my day... Every day... Something (in the sense she's my slave) and someone (in the sense, obviously, that she's a person, and a wonderful one at that) I find worth fighting for, and over.

She's also very energetic and capable of service... So I don't really consider her disability (no matter it keeps her from being able to hold a just over broke) a disability. Just a quirk... Kinda... Heheh. [:D]

But thank you highly regardless for the praises and it's possible, yes, quite a few probably do need to read that, perhaps. If for no other reason than to realize that we find what we find to fulfill us in the most unlikely places sometimes and we shouldn't be negatively judgemental due to someone elses challenges or worries. Physical, Emotional, Mental, Spiritual or in any fashion.

Peace.

TNT




LadyHugs -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 10:05:25 PM)

Dear slaveluci, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
The way housing looks, it is extremely hard to get into a house and not be buried under it due to taxes, morgage, maintaining it and insuring it.
 
Mobile homes are extremely important to those who need a home and cannot see themselves in an apartment.  I prefer a mobile trailer over an apartment as it is not joined with other apartments and if there is a fire--not only do they go up--yours could to. 
 
If memory serves me correctly, 'Lives of the Rich and Famous,' featured Hollywood stars having expensive mobile homes installed at some of their places.  I know I saw it on TV and the residents were very pleased with them.
 
I've seen prefabricated homes and modular homes placed in DC.  Even a prefabricated apartments were installed in Washington, DC not all that long ago--the idea was building blocks.
 
When my parents married shortly after WWII, modular homes the size of a big apartment were made for returning G.I.'s.  They were smaller than a long moble home according to my Dad.
It was temporary housing then.  He bought 7/8 of an acer of land and had built from a magazine floor plan our family home.  So, it wasn't because he was poor--it was just the circumstances of the times.
 
In my mind's eyes I see--being rich or poor is more within than external wealth or lack thereof.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs
 




Masternslave07 -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 10:07:56 PM)

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MzMia -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 10:14:28 PM)

Thank you Lady Hugs!
You are right on the money about mobile housing.

 
Tiger you are still a special man, believe it.




gooddogbenji -> RE: 2 a.m. post/Submissives that are poor, disabled, etc. (7/8/2007 10:17:15 PM)

I would not date someone who was poor by anything other than choice, or temporarily, as I feel money is easy to come by if you're willing to do what it takes (flame me now, biznitches!  I can take it!!!)

Many choose to be poor to set other priorities, such as health, personal growth, or any number of other things.

I would never date someone who, in their own mind, is disabled.  I would also never date someone who expected society owed them anything, disabled or not.

I would never date someone who thought their mental illness was anything but a personal weakness, barring such things as the truly crazy, such as extreme schizophrenics, alzheimers, and a few other major ones.  You're depressed and the world should have pity?  Cool.  Have a good life.  You have ADD and need meds?  Have fun with some other guy. 

And if you have kids, you get categorically dismissed at this point.  I don't want to have my own kids, let alone someone else's at this point.

Yours,


benji




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