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Peeing - 7/9/2007 2:33:54 AM   
swissslave


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Status: offline 		I kindly want ask any Mistress here:

If I drink the golden sekt from the Mistress, is this without problems for my health?

Thank you for your information
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RE: Peeing - 7/9/2007 2:38:03 AM   
LadyEllen


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Status: offline 		if it comes out like sekt, I'd be concerned for her health and would advise refraining from further consumption pending fizzical examination.

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RE: Peeing - 7/9/2007 2:49:02 AM   
swissslave


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Status: offline 		I really like to drink the Mistress-pee, but sometimes I'm afraid for.
Can I get sick?
Or some other problem with my health?

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RE: Peeing - 7/9/2007 2:50:56 AM   
BabyNyla


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Status: offline 		I know it's early ... and I haven't been to bed in 2 days ... so I might be halucinating ... but ... LOLOL.

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RE: Peeing - 7/9/2007 2:51:37 AM   
MaamJay


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Status: offline 		Oh Ellen, You are such a wag!

To swiss ... I think the spelling may have deserted you. However, to answer your basic query - urine is generally free from bacteria so generally you can't catch diseases from it. HOWEVER, it is a toxic waste product which the person who pee'ed it out needed to get rid of ... so it stands to reason that drinking a lot of it is going to overload the receivers kidneys sooner or later. And, as a recent thread here discussed, some medications are excreted in the urine, so there is a chance that the receiver will get medications inappropriate to them with possible side effects. All of which I personally choose to sum up as this: I will ask a sub to consume a few drops or perform cleaning duties after I have pee'ed. However I will NOT ask them to perform as a full toilet and drink it all. I wouldn't like to take the risk in terms of their future health. If a Domme asks this of you, I would suggest discussing these issues with Her.

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RE: Peeing - 7/9/2007 3:10:00 AM   
sosniagara


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Status: offline 		From what I've read on scene sites online over the years it's *generally* safe but, as others have said there is a statistical chance of it causing problems.

I've never been able to find hard stats on if it's like that "condoms work 99 times out of 100 safe" (aka almost always safe) or if or if it's a possible risk although generally safe. Nor have I been able to find any information on if the possible dangers are minor (cured by antibiotics) or if it's something that could be life threatening.

I'd certainly be open to any peer reviewed or medically approved source material on this if anyone has it since, although not my kink, the main reason I'd put it in my hard limit camp is because of safety concerns. 

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RE: Peeing - 7/9/2007 7:06:39 AM   
MisPandora


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From: Philadelphia, PA
Status: offline 		This topic has been covered many times, especially over in the health/medical area of the Cm boards.  I strongly suggest that you take advantage of the search feature of the site, and take a look at the threads with the word "urine" or "golden shower" in it.  There is plenty of good advice there. Do a search by going: http://www.collarchat.com/search.asp and then typing in the word(s) you wish to look up.

A few other resources on the web about urine:
http://www.abc.net.au/science/correx/archives/piss.htm

http://www.peeplay.net/peeplay-medical.htm

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RE: Peeing - 9/2/2007 10:18:22 AM   
MyChamberPotty


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Status: offline 		Just some simple advice from a toilet slave....

... when you start pooping pee, you've had too much.

Too much of anything is not a good thing, even if you enjoy it.

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RE: Peeing - 9/2/2007 11:01:45 AM   
DiannaVesta


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MyChamberPotty

Just some simple advice from a toilet slave....

... when you start pooping pee, you've had too much.

Too much of anything is not a good thing, even if you enjoy it.


lol- thats funny. In all my years I have never heard of such a thing.

As Ms Pandora pointed out there are many threads. IMO when it comes to exchanging ANY body fuilds there must be careful considerations.


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RE: Peeing - 9/2/2007 11:17:19 AM   
MisPandora


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MaamJay
However, to answer your basic query - urine is generally free from bacteria so generally you can't catch diseases from it.

Sorry, but this is nonsense.

60% of the patients I see, newly admitted to the hospital, have "many bacteria" present in their first UA -- and that's whether they're a chronically ill patient or victim of an accident or sudden stroke.

Anyone who has a viral infection sheds the virus in their urine by means of red and white blood cells in it.

Rather than tell people that they can't catch diseases, why not tell them that they CAN get diseases (HCV, HBV, HIV as well as bacterial infections) as well as consume toxic substances like drug byproducts for them to BE AWARE of the risk involved and make a sane choice based on that knowledge.


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RE: Peeing - 9/2/2007 2:54:36 PM   
SubJordanTyler


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Status: offline 		MisPandora's advice sounds like the best to me.  I couldn't really see how drinking urine could be completely without risks, as I didn't see how it could be totally clean.  I still drank it many times, but I was aware of this going into it and decided to do it anyway.  I did get a little sick at times from it, but nothing severe - mostly an upset stomach.  But as long as you go into anything knowing the risks and accepting them.........it's our choice and we have to live with the results of what we do.

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RE: Peeing - 9/2/2007 7:29:00 PM   
DianeB269


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Status: offline 		I like to pee on my subs but, I do not let them drink it....


Diane

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RE: Peeing - 9/8/2007 7:56:13 PM   
stan39


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Status: offline 		id like to be peed on by you Diane and try the strap on

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RE: Peeing - 9/8/2007 8:05:10 PM   
blackpearl81


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From: Home of the Yankees
Status: offline 		/reads with interest.


Golden showers have been a long standing curiosity of mine.... Not neccesarily drinking, but more or less having it done to me, or watching (at first)

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RE: Peeing - 9/8/2007 8:10:07 PM   
bisubmalepa


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From: Pennsylvania
Status: offline 		when in doubt swissslave, ask a doctor, that is if you have a good relationship with a healthcare provider(doctor)...i have used hypothetical situations with my doctor on a few occassions and also said a few things happened "by accident" and my health care provider gave me the answers.

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RE: Peeing - 9/9/2007 6:34:50 AM   
BeachMystress


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Status: offline 		Urine's purpose is the excretion of toxins, chemicals and drugs from the body so even if the urine is sterile (which means free from live bacteria or other microorganisms) you can have problems from one of those. If you've never experienced how this works, take a B vitamin with dinner and watch for the bright yellow urine the next morning. Diseases also alter what is in the urine which is why so many health problems are tested by a urinalysis.

And even though urine is said to be sterile when leaving the body, unless you're very careful and do a "clean catch" the bacteria on the skin contaminate it. Oh, and lets clarify that.. from a healthy human. Often time people do not know when they have a mild urinary tract or kidney infection. There is also a study from 1961 that shows that schizophrenics may have a higher level of toxic compounds in their urine.  http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/134/3491/1687

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RE: Peeing - 9/9/2007 10:21:50 AM   
DivaDuchess


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Status: offline 		There are any number of 'Alternative Friendly' health care professionals, try one.  I've induced peeing as a form of punishment with some of my slaves but have no taste (cough back the pun) for using them as a toilet.  There are better things they could be doing with their mouths.


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RE: Peeing - 9/12/2007 9:05:20 AM   
goodforher


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Status: offline 		i am very oral and was aroused by the thought of my Mistress peeing directly into my mouth.  She also was turned on by the idea and when Mistress decided to train me She wanted me to consume all of golden directly from the source and without spilling.

The fantasy was way better then the reality. The taste was really really bad and though i completed my task as Mistress wanted i have never done it again. 

The strange thing is i still get very aroused at the thought of drinking Mistress Golden directly from the source. 

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RE: Peeing - 9/12/2007 12:11:22 PM   
ricar00


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Status: offline 		i have been peed on and drank my former Mistress's urine a few times.  For me the reality was just as good as the fantasy.  But i don't do it very often.  Warm, soothing, a little salty and definitely a taste of its own.
ricar00 (richie)

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RE: Peeing - 9/12/2007 4:15:14 PM   
Celeste43


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From: NYS
Status: offline 		In a healthy person urine tends to be sterile. But if she's getting ill, and is still without symptoms, then you wouldn't know to avoid ingesting it. So, like everything else in life, there are risks. Good point previously made about medication coming through also. And in that vein, if she eats something you're allergic to, such as  seafood or nuts, be prepared for an allergic reaction. Also if you have to have drug testing for a job (for example) you could test positive just if she used the drug, even if you didn't.

How long do allergins remain in the urine? Anyone know? Drugs can show up for a full month.

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