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RE: Physics Thread - 7/10/2007 9:50:20 PM   
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Tesla claimed he could create an absolutely impenetrable force field. Show it to me.

Tesla claimed he could be a safe way to broadcast electrical power sufficient to replace the entire electrical distribution infrastructure of his time. Show me the working device.

Of course there is also the various "wall of light" inventions Tesla claimed. Teleportation, anti gravity and time travel that is. Show those inventions to me.

I have enormous respect for Tesla. He invented radio, he invented virtually every part of th electrical distribution network but his later work and the those who have latched onto even the most absurd and unsupported of his claims makes me wonder.

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RE: Physics Thread - 7/12/2007 11:14:43 AM   
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Tesla claimed he could create an absolutely impenetrable force field. Show it to me.

Tesla claimed he could be a safe way to broadcast electrical power sufficient to replace the entire electrical distribution infrastructure of his time. Show me the working device.

Of course there is also the various "wall of light" inventions Tesla claimed. Teleportation, anti gravity and time travel that is. Show those inventions to me.

I have enormous respect for Tesla. He invented radio, he invented virtually every part of th electrical distribution network but his later work and the those who have latched onto even the most absurd and unsupported of his claims makes me wonder.


Tesla was the only Aether scientist.

"According to the General Theory of Relativity, space without the ether (zero point energy) is unthinkable"     Albert Einstein

Tesla discoverd scalar waves, xrays, nuetrinos, quarks etc etc.  (hertz acquiesced on scalar waves but the books never changed to reflect it).  The wall of light and force field all comes under scalar waves and zpe.

"show it to me" when it is a matter of record that all of teslas work was conviscated by the federal government and classified after they went through his lab.  

"show it to me" when all the people who seen it are long gone dead?... and who was supposed to be informed enough to carry his work forward so i can show it to you?

From a previous post of mine:
http://www.totse.com/en/fringe/gravity_anti_gravity/162717.html

http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/tesla.htm

you should have a huge respect for him:
THE PATENTS:
(Filing date)    (description)                              (pat. no.)
Mar. 30, 1886    Thermo-Magnetic Motor                       #396,121     5
Jan. 14, 1886    Dynamo-Electric Machine                     #359,748     9
May  26, 1887    Pyromagneto-Electric Generator              #428,057    14
Oct. 12, 1887    Electro-Magnetic Motor                      #381,968    17
Oct. 12, 1887    Electrical Transmission of Power            #382,280    26
Nov. 30, 1887    Electro-Magnetic Motor                      #381,969    35
Nov. 30, 1887     Electro-Magnetic Motor                      #382,279    39
Nov. 30, 1887     Electrical Transmission of Power            #382,281    44
Apr. 23, 1888     Dynamo-Electric Machine                     #390,414    48
Apr. 28, 1888     Dynamo-Electric Machine                     #390,721    52
May  15, 1888     Dynamo-Electric Machine or Motor            #390,415    56
May  15, 1888     System of Electrical Transmission of Power  #487,796    58
May  15, 1888     Electrical Transmission of Power            #511,915    64
May  15, 1888     Alternating Motor                           #555,190    67
Oct. 20, 1888     Electromagnetic Motor                       #524,426    71
Dec.  8, 1888     Electrical Transmission of Power            #511,559    74
Dec.  8, 1888     System of Electrical Power Transmission     #511,560    77
Jan.  8, 1889     Electro-Magnetic Motor                      #405,858    84
Feb. 18, 1889     Method of Operating Electro-Magnetic Motors #401,520    87
Mar. 14, 1889     Method of Electrical Power Transmission     #405,859    91
Mar. 23, 1889     Dynamo-Electric Machine                     #406,968    94
Apr.  6, 1889     Electro-Magnetic Motor                      #459,772    97
May  20, 1889     Electro-Magnetic Motor                      #416,191   102
May  20, 1889     Method of Operating Electro-Magnetic Motors #416,192   106
May  20, 1889     Electro-Magnetic Motor                      #416,193   110
May  20, 1889     Electric Motor                              #416,194   113
May  20, 1889     Electro-Magnetic Motor                      #416,195   116
May  20, 1889     Electro-Magnetic Motor                      #418,248   122
May  20, 1889     Electro-Magnetic Motor                      #424,036   125
May  20, 1889     Electro-Magnetic Motor                      #445,207   129
Mar. 26, 1890    Alternating-Current Electro-Magnetic Motor  #433,700   132
Mar. 26, 1890    Alternating-Current Motor                   #433,701   135
Apr.  4, 1890    Electro-Magnetic Motor                      #433,703   138
Jan. 27, 1891    Electro-Magnetic Motor                      #455,067   141
July 13, 1891    Electro-Magnetic Motor                      #464,666   145
Aug. 19, 1893    Electric Generator                          #511,916   148

                TRANSFORMERS, CONVERTERS, COMPONENTS

                Preface to Patented Electrical Components              157
THE PATENTS:
(filing date)    (description)                              (pat. no.)
May   6, 1885    Commutator for Dynamo-Electric Machines     #334,823   159
May  18, 1885    Regulator for Dynamo-Electric Machines      #336,961   161
June  1, 1885    Regulator for Dynamo-Electric Machines      #336,962   165
Jan. 14, 1886    Regulator for Dynamo-Electric Machines      #350,954   169
Apr. 30, 1887    Commutator for Dynamo-Electric Machines     #382,845   172
Dec. 23, 1887    System of Electrical Distribution           #381,970   177
Dec. 23, 1887    Method of Converting and Distributing
                Electric Currents                           #382,282   182
Apr. 10, 1888    System of Electrical Distribution           #390,413   187
Apr. 24, 1888    Regulator for Alternate-Current Motors      #390,820   192
June 12, 1889    Method of Obtaining Direct from
                Alternating Currents                        #413,353   197
June 28, 1889    Armature for Electric Machines
                (Tesla-Schmid, co-inventors)                #417,794   204
Mar. 26, 1890    Electrical Transformer or Induction Device  #433,702   208
Aug.  1, 1891    Electrical Condenser                        #464,667   211
Jan.  2, 1892    Electrical Conductor                        #514,167   213
July  7, 1893    Coil for Electro-Magnets                    #512,340   216
June 17, 1896    Electrical Condenser                        #567,818   219
Nov.  5, 1896    Man. of Electrical Condensers, Coils, &c.   #577,671   222
Mar. 20, 1897    Electrical Transformer                      #593,138   225


                HIGH FREQUENCY
                Preface to Patents in High Frequency                   231

THE PATENTS:
(filing date)    (description)                              (pat. no.)
Nov. 15, 1890    Alternating-Electric-Current Generator      #447,921   233
Feb.  4, 1891    Method of and Apparatus for Electrical
                Conversion and Distribution                 #462,418   238
Aug.  2, 1893    Means for Generating Electric Currents      #514,168   242
Apr. 22, 1896    Apparatus for Producing Electric Currents
                of High Frequency and Potential             #568,176   245
June 20, 1896    Method of Regulating Apparatus for
                Producing Currents of High Frequency        #568,178   249
July  6, 1896    Method of and Apparatus for Producing
                Currents of High Frequency                  #568,179   254
July  9, 1896    Apparatus for Producing Electrical
                Currents High Frequency                     #568,180   258
Sept. 3, 1896    Apparatus for Producing Electric
                Currents of High Frequency                  #577,670   262
Oct. 19, 1896    Apparatus for Producing Currents of High
                Frequency                                   #583,953   266
June  3, 1897    Electric-Circuit Controller                 #609,251   269
Dec.  2, 1897    Electrical-Circuit Controller               #609,245   275
Dec. 10, 1897    Electrical-Circuit Controller               #611,719   280
Feb. 28, 1898    Electric-Circuit Controller                 #609,246   285
Mar. 12, 1898    Electric-Circuit Controller                 #609,247   289
Mar. 12, 1898    Electric-Circuit Controller                 #609,248   292
Mar. 12, 1898    Electric-Circuit Controller                 #609,249   295
Apr. 19, 1898    Electric-Circuit Controller                 #613,735   298

                RADIO
                Preface to The Radio Patents                           305
THE PATENTS:
(filing date)    (description)                              (pat. no.)
Sept. 2, 1897    System of Transmission of Electrical
               Energy                                       #645,576   307
Sept. 2, 1897    Apparatus for Transmission of Electrical
               Energy                                       #649,621    314
July  1, 1898    Method of and Apparatus for Controlling
               Mechanism of Moving Vessels or Vehicles      #613,809    318
June 24, 1899    Apparatus for Utilizing Effects Transmitted
               from a Distance to a Receiving Device
               Through Natural Media                        #685,955    331
June 24, 1899    Method of Intensifying and Utilizing
               Effects Transmitted Through Natural Media    #685,953    338
Aug.  1, 1899    Method of Utilizing Effects Transmitted
               Through Natural Media                        #685,954    344
Aug.  1, 1899    Apparatus for Utilizing Effects
               Transmitted Through Natural Media            #685,956    353
May  16, 1900    Art of Transmitting Electrical Energy
               Through the Natural Mediums                  #787,412    361
July 16, 1900    Method of Signaling                          #723,188    367
July 16, 1900    System of Signaling                          #725,605    372
Jan. 18, 1902    Apparatus for Transmitting Electrical
               Energy                                     #1,119,732   378

               LIGHTING
Preface to The Lighting Patents                                         385
THE PATENTS:
(filing date)    (description)                               (pat. no.)
Mar. 30, 1885    Electric-Arc Lamp                            #335,786   387
July 13, 1886    Electric-Arc Lamp                            #335,787   392
Oct.  1, 1890    Method of Operating Arc Lamps                #447,920   397
Apr. 25, 1891    System of Electric Lighting                  #454,622   400
May  14, 1891    Electric Incandescent Lamp                   #455,069   405
Jan.  2, 1892   Incandescent Electric Light                  #514,170   408


               MEASUREMENTS & METERS
               Preface to Patents for Measurement 6, Meters            413

THE PATENTS:
(filing date)   (description)                                (pat. no.)
Mar. 27, 1891    Electrical Meter                             #455,068   415
Dec. 15, 1893    Electrical Meter                             #514,973   418
May  29, 1914    Speed-Indicator                            #1,209,359   421
Dec. 18, 1916    Speed-Indicator                            #1,274,816   429
Dec. 18, 1916    Ship's Log                                 #1,314,718   434
Dec. 18, 1916    Flow-Meter                                 #1,365,547   437
Dec. 18, 1916    Frequency Meter                            #1,402,025   440


               ENGINES & PROPULSION
               Preface to Patents for Engines & Propulsion             447

THE PATENTS:
(filing date)   (description)                               (pat. no.)
Jan.  2, 1892    Electric-Railway System                      #514,972   449
Aug. 19, 1893   Reciprocating Engine                         #514,169   452
Dec. 29, 1893   Steam-Engine                                 #517,900   456
Oct. 21, 1909   Fluid Propulsion                           #1,061,142   461
Oct. 21, 1909   Turbine                                    #1,061,206   465
Sept. 9, 1921   Method of Aerial Transportation            #1,655,113   470
Oct.  4, 1927   Apparatus for Aerial Transportation        #1,655,114   476


               VARIOUS DEVICES & PROCESSES
               Preface to Various Devices & Processes                  487

THE PATENTS:
(Filing date)   (description)                               (pat. no.)
June 17, 1896   Apparatus for Producing Ozone                #568,177   489
Feb. 17, 1897   Electrical Igniter for Gas-Engines           #609,250   493
Mar. 21, 1900   Means for Increasing the Intensity of
               Electrical Oscillations                      #685,012   496
June 15, 1900   Method of Insulating Electric Conductors     #655,838   500
Sept.21, 1900   Method of Insulating Electric Conductors
               (reissue of #655,838)                         #11,865   506
Mar. 21, 1901   Apparatus for the Utilization of Radiant
               Energy                                       #685,957   512
Mar. 21, 1901   Method of Utilizing Radiant Energy           #685,958   517
Oct. 28, 1913   Fountain                                   #1,113,716   521
Feb. 21, 1916   Vaivular Conduit                           #1,329,559   525
May   6, 1916   Lightning-Protector                        #1,266,175   531



One of the more controversial topics involving Nikola Tesla is what became of many of his technical and scientific papers after he died in 1943. Just before his death at the height of World War II, he claimed that he had perfected his so-called "death beam." So it was natural that the FBI and other U.S. Government agencies would be interested in any scientific ideas involving weaponry. Some were concerned that Tesla's papers might fall into the hands of the Axis powers or the Soviets.

The morning after the inventor's death, his nephew Sava Kosanovic´ hurried to his uncle's room at the Hotel New Yorker. He was an up-and-coming Yugoslav official with suspected connections to the communist party in his country. By the time he arrived, Tesla's body had already been removed, and Kosanovic´ suspected that someone had already gone through his uncle's effects. Technical papers were missing as well as a black notebook he knew Tesla kept—a notebook with several hundred pages, some of which were marked "Government."
http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_mispapers.html

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/esp_tesla_10.htm

How about a snoot full of bureaucratic bullshit:
http://foia.fbi.gov/filelink.html?file=/tesla/tesla1.pdf
http://foia.fbi.gov/filelink.html?file=/tesla/tesla2.pdf


http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Biographies/TeslaBio-Photographs.htm


No instruments have been installed as yet in the transmitter, nor has Mr. Tesla given any description of what they will be like. But in his article he announces that he will transmit from the tower an electric wave of a total maximum activity of ten million horse power. This, he says, will be possible with a plant of but 100 horse power, by the use of a magnifying transmitter of his own invention and certain artifices which he promises to make known in due course. What he expects to accomplish is summed up in the closing paragraph as follows:

"When the great truth, accidentally revealed and experimentally confirmed, is fully recognized, that this planet, with all its appalling immensity, is to electric currents virtually no more than a small metal ball and that by virtue of this fact many possibilities, each baffling imagination and of incalculable consequence, are rendered absolutely sure of accomplishment; when the first plant is inaugurated and it is shown that a telegraphic message, almost as secret and non-interferable as a thought, can be transmitted to any terrestrial distance, the sound of the human voice, with all its intonations and inflections faithfully and instantly reproduced at any other point of the globe, the energy of a waterfall made available for supplying light, heat or motive power, anywhere...on sea, or land, or high in the air...humanity will be like an ant heap stirred up with a stick. See the excitement coming!"

"Cloud born Electric Wavelets To Encircle the Globe: This Is Nicola Tesla's Latest Dream, and the Long Island Hamlet of Wardenclyffe Marvels Thereat," New York Times, 27 March 1904

So here is one method of transmitting electricity exactly as tesla has done it done today by the USA  NOT!!  By Germany.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4615804709108706714&q=

The Hutchison Effect (Antigravity)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6122827639205703420&q=

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Here is some new stuff i just run across while digging out these other links....looks interesting  but i have no idea of its validity or not....
The Searl Effect: Large-Scale Antigravity
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8635897559220353909&q=
They have a website
http://www.sisrc.com/c1.htm
Searl talks a good talk but said a few things that i think would need to be fully investigated to be believed.








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RE: Physics Thread - 7/12/2007 12:44:32 PM   
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I am a bit curious why his alleged death beam was never developed and utilized during the Cold War.

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RE: Physics Thread - 7/12/2007 2:33:11 PM   
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I am a bit curious why his alleged death beam was never developed and utilized during the Cold War.

Sinergy


i do not have the info handy but kruschev did announce that they had a super weapon around about 1968 that was more powerful than anything imaginamble...  i even vaguely remember hearing about it as a kid....  but at a later date...

The russians have been working on it for a long time already, whether they have it fully functional is unknown, but the consequences are horrific... 

We do have HAARP which is also a hush hush nasty little bitch speaking of global fuckups, i mean warming...   They have done several tests with it and what the extent it effected us is unknown.

It can control weather and milosovich accused the us of causing them a drought with it just as we are accusing the russians of causing one off the west coast...

There have been several reports of the tesla lightning balls being seen throughout the world and even a few beleived to be scalar vacules but anyway as you can see from those fbi records the gov most likely still has teslas effects.

As for where the technology is today all i am aware of is that stanford has been putzing with scalar the last few years and of course lots of back yard scientists too...

This one is really good...  i have another vid of someone else who did this experiment and also the one where you can actually feel the scalar wave as you move your hand through it....

So here is one method of transmitting electricity exactly as tesla has done it done today by the USA  NOT!!  By Germany.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4615804709108706714&q=




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RE: Physics Thread - 7/12/2007 2:42:30 PM   
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Here is HAARP

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3635618093953549470&q=

Its like the future is here


nothing like a lying government that everything is secret with this kind of power eh?

Oh yeh and once again wtc comes to mind...  since they found "vaporized" metals there.   a-hem...  magine that... wonder if we have haarp power records for that time frame :)


more
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2723136198643361683&q=

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RE: Physics Thread - 7/12/2007 3:39:54 PM   
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Tesla may well have been an engineering genius but even silly me knows that the principle of Electro Magnetic Induction was "discovered" by amongst others Oersted, Michael Faraday and Joseph Henry.
Not explained note, but codified and quantified.

So lets not get carried away with Mr Tesla.

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RE: Physics Thread - 7/12/2007 4:51:40 PM   
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Aaaaiiieeeeeee!  Nooooo.
I'm having college nightmare flashbacks.
Physics bad and evil. 

Aileen in your avatar pic. are you checking to see if the Earth is flat.or have you lost a contact lens ?


seeksfemslave:
No...she is showing off that marvelous butt of hers to the person standing behind her.
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RE: Physics Thread - 7/12/2007 5:01:29 PM   
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Whats up with gravity?
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Sinergy:
There is no such thing as gravity...the earth sux.
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RE: Physics Thread - 7/12/2007 5:10:22 PM   
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Jesus...I need a few shots before I can contribute to this thread.

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RE: Physics Thread - 7/12/2007 5:19:54 PM   
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Tesla may well have been an engineering genius but even silly me knows that the principle of Electro Magnetic Induction was "discovered" by amongst others Oersted, Michael Faraday and Joseph Henry.
Not explained note, but codified and quantified.

So lets not get carried away with Mr Tesla.



yeh and not to forget maxwell, lorentz, and hertz





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RE: Physics Thread - 7/12/2007 8:06:41 PM   
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I found this while I was out surfin:  http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/07/creepy-high-voltage-installations.html

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RE: Physics Thread - 7/12/2007 10:19:51 PM   
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I found this while I was out surfin:  http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/07/creepy-high-voltage-installations.html



WOW what garbage huh?

Check out the pic of teslas by comparison miniature coil in his lab and the ones the russians built.

Tesla has zillions of times more harmonics in his rig than they do, its much smaller and doing 10million volts compared to their 9million volt monstosities.

i cant figure out what they were trying to do but they do not look like they were designed to do tranmission work and that death ray doesnt look like a TC at all....

to clarify, a death ray looks more like a particle accelerator


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RE: Physics Thread - 7/13/2007 2:41:29 AM   
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Tesla may well have been an engineering genius but even silly me knows that the principle of Electro Magnetic Induction was "discovered" by amongst others Oersted, Michael Faraday and Joseph Henry.
Not explained note, but codified and quantified.

So lets not get carried away with Mr Tesla.

yeh and not to forget maxwell, lorentz, and hertz


Whose side are you on ?
I thought you claimed that Tesla "invented" everything run by electro magnetism except a device to keep your toast warm while you went for a Sh*t in the morning.

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RE: Physics Thread - 7/13/2007 6:35:19 AM   
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Tesla may well have been an engineering genius but even silly me knows that the principle of Electro Magnetic Induction was "discovered" by amongst others Oersted, Michael Faraday and Joseph Henry.
Not explained note, but codified and quantified.

So lets not get carried away with Mr Tesla.

yeh and not to forget maxwell, lorentz, and hertz


Whose side are you on ?
I thought you claimed that Tesla "invented" everything run by electro magnetism except a device to keep your toast warm while you went for a Sh*t in the morning.


no not at all but he certainly single handedly launched us into the industrial age, and not without a fight from poke n hope assholes like edison, theifs like marconi, backstabbers like westinghouse.

MEantime he is literally wiped out of the history books, walk down the street sometime and and ask peeps if they heared of him.  not    i doubt most here have heard of him.

Most here are of the conventional 1/2 mast physics and cannot even imagine that the c, the speed of light is not the speed limit, thanks to tesla, and cannot even imagine that power can be transmitted nearly loss free throughout the world unlike it is now.

He called it a magnifying transmitter based on his colorado experiments where he sent so much power back into the generating station he blew out their generators.

Its one thing to be a theoretical genius and entirely another to be one while putting it into application.


to answer your question i am not on anyones side.  tesla sites these guys as references all the time in his work.


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RE: Physics Thread - 7/13/2007 6:47:19 AM   
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I found this while I was out surfin:  http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/07/creepy-high-voltage-installations.html



WOW what garbage huh?

Check out the pic of teslas by comparison miniature coil in his lab and the ones the russians built.

Tesla has zillions of times more harmonics in his rig than they do, its much smaller and doing 10million volts compared to their 9million volt monstosities.

i cant figure out what they were trying to do but they do not look like they were designed to do tranmission work and that death ray doesnt look like a TC at all....

to clarify, a death ray looks more like a particle accelerator



Real0ne:
I do not know that it is garbage.  They are just some pics I found on the net while surfin'.  I believe the text says something about it tossing lightning bolts of energy some 150 meters.  Whether it does or not I have not a clue.  That the Russians may have been trying to recreate Tesla's work, one can only speculate.  The pictures of the HARP set up are equally mute.  The government has not ever given any meaningful explanation of what it is doing with it.  I offered the pics only for the observation and perusal of those interested.  Just from a mechanical point of construction each of the constructs must have cost tens of millions of dollars.  The engineering and electrical aspects most likely dwarf the construction costs by several orders of magnitude.
It strikes me as constructive to consider what level of social services our respective countries might have provided their citizens with the money and brain power that was used to construct just these two items.
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