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truesub4u -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/11/2007 8:46:26 AM)

Getting yelled at and or cussed at tells me something is wrong. And if I try to talk it out and it continues or happens again. I think it's time for the door. And would gladly use it or show them to it. I've been told I can strip a person down without raising my voice or use of a single cuss word.

In my experiance... one with such a short temper like the one you've described... can turn from verbal abuse to physical. Best to think this one out carefully. Not gonna tell you NOT to stick with it. It's not my place. This is your choice. I just hope you think it through more and carefully. Good luck to you.

Jessica 




Dane -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/11/2007 8:50:18 AM)

This guy is out of control of himself, and he blames his lack of control on your tone of voice. It's a classic situation where an abuser says the victim "made him" do it. A dominant, more than any other person, must take personal responsibility for his actions.




Viridana -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/11/2007 9:15:09 AM)

I'm with others on this one. Nobody can make you react a certain way. It's your own choice how you react. What I would have done in a situation like this, is that I'd tell the person that I feel he/she is giving me an attitude and concequently ask why that is. No need for humiliation and cussing to get to the root of the problem. Maybe you have a harsh tone of voice when you speak, due to your past or otherwise. And the task ahead then would  be to obliterate that tone eventually. Negativity and humiliation are not likely to yield good end results. Just my 2 cents.....




Missokyst -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/11/2007 9:51:57 AM)

I hope you have dumped him by now.  It's obvious this guy has a short temper and the inability to communicate without being an ass.  For myself, I cannot handle being yelled at.  I know some people get enjoyment from it, but it is a bad place for me.  You acted absolutely like a reasonable adult when you tried to explain.  HE acted like a child stomping his feet and having a tamtrum.  That seems more like domineering and not dominant.
~Kyst




corsetgirl -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/11/2007 9:55:46 AM)

You have definitely described my marriage very well.  My ex husband was a verbally abusive man as well and I now know the difference between dominance and abuse.  This is a very clear indication that this dominant is abusive to you and if you choose to be with him, he will only break down your self-esteem. 

I would rather be alone for awhile than be with someone who is verbally and emotionally abusive to me.




nyrisa -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/11/2007 10:29:21 AM)

To me, someone who is yelling and cussing at you has either lost control of their emotions, or is using it to control, manipulate and intimidate someone they perceive as being weaker. In the first case, I would not be able to respect or trust someone who has so little control of himself. In the second instance, it sounds like the prelude to establishing a relationship of emotional and possibly physical abuse. This early in a relationship, he is probably testing the waters to see if you will tolerate this treatment, and if so, you can probably expect the intensity to ramp up quickly. Please don't allow someone to be so hurtful to you.




AquaticSub -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/11/2007 10:41:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: saseblubutrfly

I've met him twice and honestly, I think I had rather look at the devil than at him.


And you are still considering this as a viable relationship?

Listen to your gut.




imthatacheyouhav -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/11/2007 11:45:15 AM)

Leave him now hun...you deserve MUCH better




Celeste43 -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/11/2007 11:45:30 AM)

Your mistake was in getting involved with him in the first place without telling him about your hypersensitivity to out of control anger from men. You compounded that by not asking him in detail about how he is when he gets angry, what did he do the last time he was furious at his ex, his boss, his best friend.

This is a deal breaker for you, or ought to be. Ask about it in the future, and tell this man that his anger management problem has caused you to conclude that he is unsafe and untrustworthy for you. Tell him goodbye.

If you accept it, and his false promises not to so repeat this behavior when you tell him goodbye, expect it to get worse not better. And don't be surprised if he proceeds to physical abuse, while claiming he is just punishing you.

Your call. And you may want to get some help in dealing with leftover self esteem issues which have left you susceptible to men like this, and the help would prevent you from making such a mistake again.




uwinceismile -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/11/2007 11:56:13 AM)

consider yourself very lucky......
lucky that you are under consideration, and not already in this relationship.
consideration means that you, or he, can walk away....
ill send you the funds for a new pair of tennis shoes....
run like the wind!!!




HardnRuff -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/11/2007 12:44:34 PM)

If  He cant control Himself He cant control you in My opinion .




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/11/2007 3:18:52 PM)

If you don't like someone yelling and cussing at you, find a partner who doesn't. It's that simple.

Master Fire




SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/11/2007 3:19:07 PM)

No, you aren't being too sensitive. I think you're being quite perceptive. Personally, I find it rare that I ever have to raise my voice. Granted what works for me works for me. Others have different methods. My concern is most fully focused here...

quote:

When I got online with him last night he told me that I needed to work on my tone of voice. He also told me that his reaction was a response to my attitude. When I also explained to him about my dad and my ex he acted like he gave a flying rat's ass. Then again in about 2 seconds he had turned on me again. I can't take this.


I try to not be judgemental but, to me, this isn't a Dominant. Having brought up the subject of your issues with him regarding previous males in your life, he went right back into being exactly what you fear. This connotates a habit and not someone that is concerned about your mental and emotional well being within a relationship.  I think you've already answered your own question about what you should do. This situation is not something you find to be viable simply by reading the last line of your post alone.

On a better note, this is something you were able to learn about him prior to taking the relationship further. You're recognizing the red flags that give you pause. I wish you the best of luck in whatever decision you come to take. I do agree with the other posts that urge you to remove yourself from the situation and walk away.





completenz -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/11/2007 3:28:59 PM)

hi hon
i am with the others on this one. he is not the one for you, move on. you deserve better.
hugs
c




bandit25 -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/11/2007 3:36:09 PM)

I go with the douchebag thing.  You don't need us telling you this he isn't right for you.  If you are questioning it and you'd rather look at the devil..then, there's no question what to do.




TemptingNviceSub -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/11/2007 4:08:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dane

This guy is out of control of himself, and he blames his lack of control on your tone of voice. It's a classic situation where an abuser says the victim "made him" do it. A dominant, more than any other person, must take personal responsibility for his actions.
I agree fully with this POV...Tempting




winterlight -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/11/2007 9:02:52 PM)

RUNNNNNNNNNNNN!




maledave7 -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/12/2007 4:13:00 AM)

It is good to be honest about how you feel. You did try to explain it. Sometimes other people are more sensitive to how we say things. I believe that it is important that the other person is at least willing to listen and to try to understand what you are saying. I feel you need to look at your relationship with him. You need to ask yourself if you want this kind of relationship in your life.




julietsierra -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/12/2007 4:26:53 AM)

I don't think you're being too sensitive. I think you're dating. And isn't it fortunate that you found out so early in the relationship - before you were really emotionally connected to him that this was something that wasn't going to work out?

Personally, I'm not interested in telling someone all the things they can't do when it comes to their behavior. I want to see how they really are. And unlike Celeste, I don't feel it's my responsibility to have to tell a grown man to act like an adult. It's not a failing of mine that I don't like someone yelling and cursing me. It's a failing of theirs if they do it. If I tell them - as if this is somehow my fault - that I can't handle their tirades, all I'm going to get is them being careful around me. Being careful sounds like a nice idea, but the problem with that is that what I'm going to be seeing is only their best behavior and I really don't want that. I want to see the man I'm getting to know - warts and all (the metaphorical kind) - so that I can make a determination for myself what is good for me.

Furthermore, I don't feel it's hypersensitive at all to not want to be around out of control men. It's knowing yourself and what you want - and don't want. When a man who calls himself a dominant reacts in such an out of control fashion then it's not hypersensitive of me to be angry, distrustful and want to steer clear of him. It's just good common sense. It's just darn healthy.

In the end, I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince myself that wanting to be treated in a respectful manner even though I'm a submissive (as if that's supposed to make a difference) is anything close to some sort of failing on my part. I would not see this as hypersensitive. I'd see it as being smart.

So, hey, yup, you cried. Yup, you had your feelings hurt. And yup, it appears you're done with this relationship, but know what? It'd be worse if you stayed and just kept taking what he was dishing out all the while, rationalizing that you're just being too sensitive and that it was somehow your fault for not telling him about the things you learned early in life that you didn't want for yourself.

So, good for you. I'm sorry this didn't work out, but I'm glad you found out early on in the relationship.

juliet




greeneyes1962 -> RE: Yellin & cussin (7/12/2007 8:44:26 AM)

I can't handle people with anger issues. I also shut down, and shut out the noise of it.
I grew up with a father with that, and my ex also was like that. I don't know how i sur-
vived 23 years.

Master does not have anger issues, which is one of the many reasons I love him so much.
He is able to communicate well, without yelling. However, because of 40+ years of
conditioning, I am just now getting over the fear of being yelled at all the time.




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