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Davesgirl -> Orgasm Training (6/20/2005 12:21:28 PM)

Hello ya'll....me again. Sorry, but I have a lot of questions, and the people here have been very helpful with great advice


ORgasm control is something very intriguing to my Master, but I have a very hard time being able to stop myself before he gives me permission. How does one train themselves to not orgasm? Is it more psychological, or physiological? I get into some trouble over this one, so would greatly appreciate any and all suggestions.

Thanks everyone! [:)]




EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Orgasm Training (6/20/2005 12:51:54 PM)

As with any training, it takes lots of time, patience, and practice.

Orgasms are very psychological and sensitive to most females so training in this area generally needs to be taken with extra care to not become an issue of contention.

But otherwise, by using repetition, by taking it slow and building it up, usually by associating the orgasm with the command to orgasm, you can learn to control your orgasms and some people can learn to orgasm with no physical stimulation at all.

Some women don't have this, orgasms are extremely difficult for me with other people, so controlling it once I am actually able to have one is not something that would seem possible for me, and thus far it's nothing any of my relationships have been interested in exploring.

So just give it time, I'd only be concerned if your dom expects you to have control when he hasn't taken the time to train you.




perfection20005 -> RE: Orgasm Training (6/20/2005 2:00:36 PM)

I agree that orgasm's are very psychological. It does take a whole lot of time to learn to do this. I have learned to have an orgasm on command, and that took forever(or so it seemed!) I am now learning to control when I have one. If you feel yourself starting to have one, just think of anything else but sex(not easy to do, I know).
Just remember that everything worth while takes time to control.

perfection




Mylee -> RE: Orgasm Training (6/20/2005 2:49:31 PM)

Last night for the fisrt time ever just as I was going to shatter he told me No, at first I didnt understand what he was telling me and then when I did I had a moment of wanting to let go and shatter anyway, but then this strnage peace came over me and it suddenly felt so right that he would tell me when I was allowed to shatter for him, I have to admit though, that, even in that strange peace I felt it was hard to keep from letting myself shatter, later when I felt I was going to shatter agian, I asked him for permission and I was rewarded with a look of praise in from him, I didnt know life could be so sweet




FelinePersuasion -> RE: Orgasm Training (6/20/2005 4:44:05 PM)

I see nobody has mentioned the potential negative side affect of being un able to come after the relationship ends when one has been trained to only cum for one person and ones command.


Every once in a while you hear about someone on here who can no longer come because while in the relationship they were trained to only come by his command, and when it ends, they're screwed over.




Mylee -> RE: Orgasm Training (6/20/2005 4:59:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

I see nobody has mentioned the potential negative side affect of being un able to come after the relationship ends when one has been trained to only cum for one person and ones command.


Every once in a while you hear about someone on here who can no longer come because while in the relationship they were trained to only come by his command, and when it ends, they're screwed over.



* drops her jaw and whimpers*

Umm oh my, what a way to scare a newbie....




Lordandmaster -> RE: Orgasm Training (6/20/2005 7:39:36 PM)

It's true. Details on request.

So don't fool around with orgasm training unless you're pretty sure you know what you're doing.

quote:

ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

I see nobody has mentioned the potential negative side affect of being un able to come after the relationship ends when one has been trained to only cum for one person and ones command.

Every once in a while you hear about someone on here who can no longer come because while in the relationship they were trained to only come by his command, and when it ends, they're screwed over.




EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Orgasm Training (6/20/2005 8:17:00 PM)

But just as someone can be trained towards a behavioral response, it can be trained out of the person, either naturally on its own or with the same techniques that trained it in the first place.

We're adaptable people.




littleone35 -> RE: Orgasm Training (6/21/2005 5:21:13 AM)

My late Master only denied me orgasm whrn he wanted to make my climax more intense so for a day or 2 he would not let me then whan he ddi let me sent me righ into subspace. Very intense




Lordandmaster -> RE: Orgasm Training (6/21/2005 8:11:29 AM)

Well, yes, we're adaptable people, but we're not protons. Our actions and responses aren't predictable. Just as there's no way to know whether someone can be trained to come on command--and certainly no way to know what technique will work and what won't--it's also impossible to know whether someone can be trained back--and, again, no way to know exactly how to do it. I know people who have really suffered because of this. One woman insisted she couldn't come for years afterwards.

Lam

quote:

ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2

But just as someone can be trained towards a behavioral response, it can be trained out of the person, either naturally on its own or with the same techniques that trained it in the first place.

We're adaptable people.





comesoncommand -> RE: Orgasm Training (6/23/2005 12:58:58 PM)

i think by name alone i have to respond to this question [;)] *small laugh*. i'm relatively new to the lifestyle. Highly orgasmic, i both begin and end orgasms at my Master's command. For me, training myself to be able to accomplish these things was for a large part mental. i view my orgasms as a gift to Him, and in my mind i focus on allowing that gift when He desires. *small laugh* i can focus on that NOW...in the begining i simply tried to think of things that didn't turn me on when i got to the brink but wasn't allowed to orgasm. Not sure if this is the best tactic, but i had to get my body used to not coming by mere physical stimulation (in other words, before i was used to orgasming when my body had been played with enough...now i had to get used to stimulation being more than enough but not letting that push me over the edge util permitted). i would also just say in my mind "not yet"...i would literally focus on not orgasming at that moment. It kept me close, but focused...and when i was given permission to slide into orgasm they were amazing b/c i had been held on edge :).




babebirdy -> RE: Orgasm Training (7/3/2005 10:08:12 PM)

Master started with the orgasm training before I even knew he was training me, but it worked, in fact all it takes now is the word from Him, even through text, (e-mail or text message).




zaynab -> RE: Orgasm Training (7/4/2005 5:17:17 AM)

wow.... amazing....

i sure hope my Dom doesnt read this post lol




wetrope -> RE: Orgasm Training (7/5/2005 5:32:41 AM)

Wow <comesoncommand> that is awesome what u can do. I 'd luv to be able to train my subbie to come on command, so far have been working on not allowing to cum, not playing, not touching, without instruction. This has worked very well, and makes org's better when i'm there, but I would realy like to learn how to do what u can, any pointers?????




ClassicV -> RE: Orgasm Training (12/19/2007 4:25:17 AM)

I am a newbie in the ownership stakes, and expect shortly to acquire a trained slave. Unfortunately, she is being trained to only be able to cum in certain circumstanses, but these are not circumstances that have a particular appeal for me.

1) Is it fair that the master should train a slave thus, knowing that the slave is going to change hands soon ?
2) Are there any references or advice in training or 'un'training this.

I am also interested in opinions of this girl being branded only a few months after she had been acquired ... with the masters expectation that he would release her again after a couple of years. My interpretation is that she is an experiment for him, and it is to boost his ego rather than anything else.

An earlier post referred to someone not being able to cum because she was dependant on the previous masters command ... not something that she can be weaned off. Thankfully, this girl could be weaned off the particulat requirements.




mhawk -> RE: Orgasm Training (12/19/2007 6:12:55 AM)





well all i can really say is my Lord has not told me yet that i can or cannot have an orgasm.

as far as my Mistress is concerned,i have come to find since all of this started here in their home that i cannot do so untill She tells me to give myself to Her.

outside of that it is not something that is encouraged or discouraged by my Lord in any way but i have even found since being here that i cannot do so without either my Lord oor my Mistress telling me it's allright.

it's just different for everybody






sakidorei -> RE: Orgasm Training (12/19/2007 6:22:31 AM)

i was with my last Master for over 2 years and i was trained to cum at His specific command and to His voice.  In my experience it takes a rather deep psychological connection to achieve this type of control with sure and constant results.  After parting with Him i was unable to orgasm on my own for 9 months and this was a very difficult and frustrating experience.  No amount of self play or interaction with others made any difference ... it was as though there was a block there that i simply could not psychologically overcome. 
 
With my current Master i am also able to cum on command and this was an easier training process than when i was conditioned initially by my former Master.  Probably a case in some ways of transference after i began to bond with my new Master on a psychological level.  It certainly isn't something to play with lightly if you aren't in a relatively committed relationship as there are physical as well as psychological ramifications in developing this sort of bond with one's Owner.  i'd definitely not recommend it as a goal for casual play partners or uncommitted relationships.  But that's just me ...
 
~saki
Property of Master D.




CalifChick -> RE: Orgasm Training (12/19/2007 6:33:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ClassicV

1) Is it fair that the master should train a slave thus, knowing that the slave is going to change hands soon ?
2) Are there any references or advice in training or 'un'training this.

I am also interested in opinions of this girl being branded only a few months after she had been acquired ... with the masters expectation that he would release her again after a couple of years. My interpretation is that she is an experiment for him, and it is to boost his ego rather than anything else.


Unfortunately you don't have to pass a test to hold a BDSM membership card.  In other words, any jackass can do it.  Some jackasses are more dangerous than others, like the guy you are speaking of.

Cali




DesFIP -> RE: Orgasm Training (12/19/2007 7:35:03 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

I see nobody has mentioned the potential negative side affect of being un able to come after the relationship ends when one has been trained to only cum for one person and ones command.


Every once in a while you hear about someone on here who can no longer come because while in the relationship they were trained to only come by his command, and when it ends, they're screwed over.


It wears off after six months to a year I'm told. Like any hypnotic suggestion it needs repetition to keep working.

He's the trainer, not you. That means he has to pay attention enough to know when you are still on the edge and when you are falling. He might stop when it's obvious you are building but not there yet, tell you not yet, then rinse, repeat etc until he says now. After you've had several repetitions where you successfully did stop, then wait till you're closer and try it. Eventually, and without getting angry because he misread you, you will get to that point where you will stay on the knife edge.

Unless you have difficulty orgasming at which point he first needs to train you to cum, instead of not to.




michelleryder -> RE: Orgasm Training (12/19/2007 7:50:45 AM)

As long as both you and master focus it isnt that difficult.My master can read me like a book and so he just stops playing with me when he knows im close to orgasm. Bit by bit you find you can go longer and longer without cumming. I cant cum on command though but there again im not trained to.




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