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RE: collaring a submissive - 6/17/2004 1:59:48 PM   
Hisown


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ORIGINAL: ModeratorThree
I seem to recall reading about a collaring ceremony that was actually beautiful, it may have been at Castlerealm, however I am not sure. Since you are new, I would read up on all the different options, then put together something that works for you.


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i find this one to be quite beautiful, not sure if it's the one you meant.

http://www.cuffs.com/wp/s6.htm

However much i hate 'me, too'ing, i just have to here. A collar, to me, means more than a wedding ring. It is an outward symbol of my gift to Him, my submission. It is a physical reminder, to me, of all that i give, all that i release to Him.

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RE: collaring a submissive - 6/17/2004 5:57:42 PM   
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No that's not it. I went to Castlerealm and found it.

http://castlerealm.com/library/roseritual.shtml


I personally think this is beautiful, but of course that's just me. I think small ceremonies the best, so they can be more intimate. I like this one because of the symbolism, of course others may not. It's all a matter of personal preference



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RE: collaring a submissive - 6/17/2004 7:08:14 PM   
Hisown


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The ceremony you posted is so beautiful. Thank you for sharing that.


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RE: collaring a submissive - 6/18/2004 2:32:01 AM   
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There are a ton of people who will tell you "it should be done this way" and "it should be done that way." As has been suggested here, everybody's got an opinion.

However, ultimately the guidelines for such are between you and the person/people partaking in your own personal journey. You get to decide what it means to you.

Now, if your paradigm is flexible enough to allow for an assortment of different meanings for collaring, on a case by case basis, then you may find yourself in a position to enjoy a collar on different levels.

If you prefer a more rigid "this is the ONLY thing a collar means to me" then you are likely to only experience it from that limited window.

What's your preference?


I chuckled as I read this thread, Suz, as it seems the exact opposite occured on this thread. If anything, I've always seen that the overall attitudes regarding collaring, are that 'there is no right way to do it, except the right way for you.' So, here's the RIGHT WAY just to answer the question once and for all:

1. acquire said collar

either through a catologue, hand fashioning, or just a dog collar form Wal-mart does the job. I've seen some very nice ones on bondagecollars.com

2. acquire said sub/slave/bottom/masochist/switch/terrified vanilla virgin/dog/other

Websites like this one, munches, goth or BDSM clubs and parties, local animal shelters, homeless shelters, or even the grocery store works for this one. Gym's are probably the best place to find masochists (go figure.)

3. Wrap collar around the neck

Depending on the level of interest, you may need to be especially charming ("darling, it would look lovely on you!"), creative ("Here, can you hold this for me? No, around your neck I need your hands free to hold this rubber chicken") or just plain use restraints ("!@#$%^&*ing #$%^& dog stop squirming!!")

Congratulations, you have just performed a collaring! I will be availible for personal demonstrations this weekend for a nominal fee of $1500 + Air Fare for those who prefer.

Stephan


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RE: collaring a submissive - 6/18/2004 4:36:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Voltare

I chuckled as I read this thread, Suz, as it seems the exact opposite occured on this thread. If anything, I've always seen that the overall attitudes regarding collaring, are that 'there is no right way to do it, except the right way for you.' So, here's the RIGHT WAY just to answer the question once and for all:

<snip>

I will be availible for personal demonstrations this weekend for a nominal fee of $1500 + Air Fare for those who prefer.

Stephan




OHHHHH.....MEMEMEMEME!!!!!!

Where do I send the check?!?

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RE: collaring a submissive - 6/18/2004 8:44:51 AM   
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OHHHHH.....MEMEMEMEME!!!!!!

Where do I send the check?!?



Stephan ***
Hernando de Aguirre
Apartment ***
Providencia, Santiago
Chile

Be sure to use Western Union, and bring your own leash.



Stephan





Please do not include what may be deemed as personal information in you're posts.. Thanks! Mod3

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RE: collaring a submissive - 6/19/2004 8:30:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Voltare

quote:

ORIGINAL: MizSuz


OHHHHH.....MEMEMEMEME!!!!!!

Where do I send the check?!?



Stephan ****
Hernando de Aguirre ***
Apartment ****
Providencia, Santiago
Chile

Be sure to use Western Union, and bring your own leash.



Stephan



ummm....do you accept payment plans? Perhaps an IOU???

Leashes I have plenty of.

< Message edited by ModeratorThree -- 6/19/2004 2:54:30 PM >


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RE: collaring a submissive - 6/19/2004 11:13:50 AM   
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True story: Last night, I come home at six am from a party, and one of my roommates, and a friend of his are in the living room. There are two girls who are adjusting their belts and brastraps, while the roommates friend is buck naked and putting his shirt on. After a few minutes or quibbling about prices, the women were paid and sent on their way.

If only men could get paid for sex (le sigh.)

(Ummmm with women, that is.)

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RE: collaring a submissive - 6/20/2004 7:26:56 AM   
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quote:

If only men could get paid for sex (le sigh.)


Drive up to Hollyweird and wander around wearing leather chaps and a thong and you will get paid for all the sex you can handle.

There are professional male hookers who service female clients, but these tend to be few and far between.

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RE: collaring a submissive - 6/20/2004 8:28:53 PM   
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I'm coming into it a little late, but I tend to agree with the majority of opinions here. In my own experience, the collar that no one can see usually has manifested itself before the physical collar goes around her neck.

Case in point: Back when my submissive and I had hit the skids (for reasons I won;t go into here, as its 11:24 and I need to get to bed soon), we had broken up and I took the collar from her. That was almost a year and a half ago. Since then we have reconciled and are back together, yet she yearns for the feel of the leather around her neck and has constantly asked me for it. It currently sits in a drawer, and I will not give it to her until my last doubts about her are erased. She has gone a long way towards doing this, but I will not give that physical symbol until I am ready to.

To me, it signifies the final step in the journey of the development of a relationship between and Dominant and a submissive, and as I have said, the bonds around the heart should be established long before the leather or steel goes around her neck. That is both a symbol of ownership to her and a constant reminder to her, as well as a symbol to those who understand in the outside world.

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RE: collaring a submissive - 6/22/2004 11:43:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: proudsub

I did show off my collar very proudly on the cam site we frequented. Hubby doesn't see any reason for a collar since i have a ring, which is fine with me.


Here is where potential problems might arise. In any good pairing, the Dom/sub will have similar views as to the symbolic meaning behind the collar and collaring ceremony. I will assume, though, that far too often there is a chasm between the views. Communication is the bridge.

Be good,
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RE: collaring a submissive - 6/24/2004 6:40:20 PM   
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I will agree with many here... a collar is subjective at best.

In my own experience, slaves in training may receive a collar when a level of training is reached but this is only used in my presence to encourage the sub/slave. After the session their Master/Mistress may or may not have them wear any collar at all.

My own slaves receive a collar when they have enough experience and training to know exactly what they want. My collars are rolled aluminum and are permenant, my slaves can not remove their collars unless cut off for replacement or release from my service.

I use this much like a wedding ring, a commitment between Master and Slave.

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RE: collaring a submissive - 7/13/2004 1:14:30 PM   
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I know I'm real late in my responce but I wanted to read A/all the replies.. and in doing so, I came up with a simular question.. What about "branding/tatting". Ive come across several Masters/Doms that preferre that over collaring. Any comments?? Please be kind as I am just a sub/slave/pet/newby..and still learning. Thanks

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RE: collaring a submissive - 7/13/2004 1:57:25 PM   
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i am a notary in the state of fla... i will do collaring ceremonies for free .... they are beautiful occasions and are as important as weddings any day....


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RE: collaring a submissive - 7/13/2004 4:14:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sleepydoll

I know I'm real late in my responce but I wanted to read A/all the replies.. and in doing so, I came up with a simular question.. What about "branding/tatting". Ive come across several Masters/Doms that preferre that over collaring. Any comments?? Please be kind as I am just a sub/slave/pet/newby..and still learning. Thanks


sleepy,

In my experience, it's rare for a man to prefer a tattoo over a collar. Usually if there's to be a tattoo or brand, it is in addition to the collar, usually at a significant point after the collaring. Think of it as a reaffirmation of vows three years after you get married, though again this is just convention. There will always be couples who want to get each other's name tatooed on their bodies a week after meeting. Clearly, if there is an objectino to tattoos and/or brand they should be voiced. I don't know any Dominant who would brand a slave if she was violently opposed to it.

Stephan


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RE: collaring a submissive - 7/13/2004 7:48:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sleepydoll
What about "branding/tatting". Ive come across several Masters/Doms that preferre that over collaring.


Count me among those Masters that want a brand. I think collars are fine and dandy, but lack real meaning to me. They can be used for a scene or as part of a bondage kit or to signify an eternal bond deeper than the oceans and more powerful than Superman.

Collars come and collars go, but when a slave is ready to have your initials seared into her beautiful backside, now that is devotion.

Yours,
Taggard

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RE: collaring a submissive - 7/13/2004 11:58:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty

Collars come and collars go, but when a slave is ready to have your initials seared into her beautiful backside, now that is devotion.

Yours,
Taggard


TallDarkandWitty-
I think that there are other things besides brands that prove devotion. I myself am a fan of etching because it is predictible and takes several sessions. I can tell from your other posts that you are a man who likes to learn and is up for suggestion. www.ringsofdesire.com is a great place to learn about etchings.
As Always
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RE: collaring a submissive - 7/14/2004 4:42:22 AM   
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I can tell from your other posts that you are a man who likes to learn and is up for suggestion. www.ringsofdesire.com is a great place to learn about etchings.


My dear Berlin,

Thank you so for much for the link. You are quite right, etchings are fascinating. Perhaps I will get one when you are branded. *wink*

Yours,
Taggard

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RE: collaring a submissive - 7/19/2004 3:04:23 PM   
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I have several small responces so here goes:
Sinergy: OMG! I haven't heard that term "Hollyweird" in many years.. and back then we use to also say "Hollyweed"... Go figure! How's the beach? lol
Voltare: As to your responce about branding. Why wait three years after one is married? Just asking, don't want a fight.
MzBerlin: Thanks for the etching link. It sounds great. I'll keep it in mind if I ever find a Master for RLT.

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RE: collaring a submissive - 7/19/2004 5:06:46 PM   
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Sinergy: OMG! I haven't heard that term "Hollyweird" in many years.. and back then we use to also say "Hollyweed"... Go figure! How's the beach? lol


The beach is lovely, sleepydoll, I drive past it or go wander barefoot in the sand on it as often as I can.

Sinergy

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