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I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/15/2007 11:47:25 PM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		I love taking care of my women, I love being vulnerable in an emotional sense as well as being touched and pleasured.  I do not like meek submissives and tend to pick very opinionated and powerful women as my partners.  In trying to be as open as I can be to the possibilities life brings us and not to live the life of a label, I have often wondered if I was submissive or at least wondered how strong those desires were.

Not very as I found out last night.  Some friends of mine, a dear couple, are competing for title of Master/slave and we had a community fundraiser for them which was done as a slave auction.  Archer suggested that well known dominants bring the biggest money when the offer to bottom and so in the spirit of things I had myself auctioned off both as a top and as a bottom.

I had feared for the worse as there are some women who despise me (shocking I know) and think I am an arrogant bastard and who I figured would do anything for the chance to beat me.  They didn’t show but there were still enough that wanted to beat my ass that the bidding was lively.  Just as it slowed down and I was about to be sold, a dark horse who hadn’t uttered a peep upped the bid a large amount and won me.  OH FUCKING SHIT!!!  This woman is a serious submissive who goes back to some darker earlier days and played heavily in San Francisco and who was a serious pain slut.  While I adored her, I did so because of that experience but I had no idea what the hell she was going to do to me.  In an effort to be bold, I had set my limits as; no sex, no penetration, and no intentional marks figuring I could expand or contract those depending on who it was. 

Problem I had was my respect and trust for this woman runs deep and my most primal scene ever had been with her and I had no idea what she wanted to do.  I soon found out, WAX PLAY and I thought “piece of cake”.  I haven’t done a lot of intense wax play, I have played with it but never done a long serious scene but I know the basics.  I didn’t get the basics, they didn’t rub me with mineral oil but at least they were sticking to my back.  OH FUCKING SHIT!  They poured a long heavy run down the back of my hair leg, then the other.  Everyone was laughing as I loudly lamented how fucking bad it was going to hurt coming off.

In my head though, as much as I care for this woman, I realized I had none of the feelings I would expect from a submissive, there wasn’t anything erotic, my mind didn’t want to make the bitch happy or pleased, I was getting nothing out of this. However, “getting nothing” I realized later was a massive gift, it gave me a clarity about myself that I didn’t have prior to bottoming and it has made me a better dominant.  I have never been one to say bottoming makes you better but I won’t ever dismiss it again either.

Back to the scene. I am now covered with wax, I am naked and they made sure to get it deeply into my ass crack so I am totally fucked.  She shows a bit of mercy and uses a razor sharp knife to cut much of the wax away but the stuff in my ass and on my balls I am just going to have to deal with.

It wasn’t until I went to shower off that I realized it have been a complete mindfuck and it wasn’t wax but hot water.  The woman is good, I never clued in.  The laughter hadn’t been at me getting covered in wax but the fact that there was NO wax and I was whining about it hurting when it came off.

It was an amazing night.   I also got to beat a well known dominant who nobody would ever believe allowed it.  Takes a lot of balls and self confidence to do what she did but hers are bigger than many.  I also had a couple buy me to mentor them and that was a lot of fun as well.
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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 12:06:45 AM   
BitaTruble


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Status: offline 		I love it! Thanks so much for sharing.. both the fun/humor and the discovery of self. Kudos to you for both!

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 1:27:41 AM   
aSlavesLife


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Status: offline 		I would have been extremely pissed. After psyching myself up for the free ass hair removal only to find out that it was just water.....damn!

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 1:59:27 AM   
hideandseek


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Status: offline 		Sounds like an interesting experience.  Thanks for sharing.  

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 3:23:11 AM   
julietsierra


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

. However, “getting nothing” I realized later was a massive gift, it gave me a clarity about myself that I didn’t have prior to bottoming and it has made me a better dominant.  I have never been one to say bottoming makes you better but I won’t ever dismiss it again either.



What a fun night you had!!

I find it interesting that this was your revelation. You know and I know and most everyone knows out there that posting this will earn lots of "I don't have to fucking "submit" to be a better dominant" type responses, but like you've discovered, while people may deny, they can't know it unequivocally. All they can say is that they're not doing it.

I think that trying the other side of the D/s fence - regardless of whether you're a dominant or submissive, it really eye-opening. Even if someone winds up discovering that they're a shitty submissive or a shitty dominant for their efforts, the discoveries they make in addition to those are amazing.

hehehe... what a wonderful "gift" you've been given. *ducking*

(in this case, it's the gift of knowledge)

juliet

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 3:33:24 AM   
goodpet


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Status: offline 		How wonderful an expereince and outcome.
There has been times i have wondered if the Tops have anyidea that the gift of submission is sometimes the only thing i get out of a scene. Usually there is more - but sometimes that is all there is for me.

Thank  you for sharing Sir.
~ann

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 3:43:37 AM   
Areflectionofyou


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Status: offline 		Slave auctions are so much fun. Sometimes the most you get out of them is learning that you either enjoy something new or not.

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 4:06:16 AM   
mstrjx


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Status: offline 		Take this for what it's worth.

I don't think your 'test' was adequate to see if you enjoy the 'other side'.  In a circus environment with people who you know, your mind isn't in a position to let 'it' be taken, even if your body is vulnerable.  In a private setting, with whomever taking the time to get your headspace jarred somehow, it is possible that your experience might have been different, more rewarding.  But from your dominant experiences you know that what it would take would be someone who has a mental capacity near or exceeding yours, and that wouldn't be easy.

Just a thought.

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 4:39:46 AM   
Rover


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Status: offline 		First of all, great idea for a charity function.  The fact that you were willing to do it demonstrates that you're secure about yourself, secure about your relationships, and secure about your standing in the community.
 
Second, and more important to your thread, is the observation that you bottomed and are trying to make a correlation between bottoming and submitting.  Now admittedly, for some people the two are inseparable.  But for many others they're two completely different things.  Some people (admittedly, a minority) do not bottom at all, but submit within the context of their relationship dynamic.  Just as others do not submit within their relationship, but bottom.  And even for those that do bottom, for some it's an extension of their submission and for others there's no power exchange going on at all.... it's just some activities they participate in (as evidenced by some Dominants that bottom).
 
Point is, you can't read too much into your experience beyond the fact that you may not have enjoyed bottoming.  But then, that wasn't clear from your post.  :)
 
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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 5:34:49 AM   
Aileen68


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Status: offline 		Heh heh.  He said ass crack.

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 5:52:10 AM   
slavegirljoy


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Status: offline 		This is, i think, the clearest and most well-written observation on the difference between "bottoming" and "submitting" that i have ever seen.  Beautiful.  Thank you for posting this.  i'm going to keep this in my reference file.
 
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rover
Second, and more important to your thread, is the observation that you bottomed and are trying to make a correlation between bottoming and submitting.  Now admittedly, for some people the two are inseparable.  But for many others they're two completely different things.  Some people (admittedly, a minority) do not bottom at all, but submit within the context of their relationship dynamic.  Just as others do not submit within their relationship, but bottom.  And even for those that do bottom, for some it's an extension of their submission and for others there's no power exchange going on at all.... it's just some activities they participate in (as evidenced by some Dominants that bottom).
 
John



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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 5:56:35 AM   
gypsygrl


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Status: offline 		Go you!!!  I think its really cool when D-types bottom or otherwise hang out on the other side of the slash.  But, I do agree with the others who posted saying this one experience doesn't necessarily mean you don't have submissive tendencies or couldn't submit to the right person under the right circumstances or don't like bottoming.  Its just one experience. 

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 6:09:49 AM   
dincubus


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Status: offline 		I didnt have nearly the revelation that You did. Though i did experience the other side of the slash ... as it was said here. I was being taught. I figured the best way to learn was to experience it. It took alot for me to throw caution to the wind as such. but i did it. and i feel much more confidant in having felt the feelings

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 6:22:13 AM   
Rover


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quote:

ORIGINAL: dincubus

I didnt have nearly the revelation that You did. Though i did experience the other side of the slash ... as it was said here. I was being taught. I figured the best way to learn was to experience it. It took alot for me to throw caution to the wind as such. but i did it. and i feel much more confidant in having felt the feelings


The last thing I want to do is demean what you did by bottoming.  I hope that's obvious.
 
But I don't want people to overstate the value of it either.  Keep in mind that everyone perceives things differently.  Knowing how a flogging feels to you as a Dominant isn't very relevant to how it feels to a bottom.  In fact, how bottom A perceives it is not overly relevant to bottom B due to the wide variety inherent to personal perceptions and preferences.
 
I guess this is just a word of caution that it's easy to assume we know more than we do.
 
John

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 6:34:58 AM   
SexyRed


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Status: offline 		that was very cool of you to post this, thanks. I am always interested in the mental aspects that people go through and the mindfuck is what it is all about.

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 6:36:03 AM   
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Takes a lot of balls and self confidence to do what she did but hers are bigger than many. 

Michael,
It sure does my friend. It did for you too!

You've helped a deserving cause, and I'm sure it is appreciated.

So, now you "play for pay". How does it feel to "turn pro"? What was the bottom line? 

Good job! I hope somebody took pictures! 

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 6:47:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good post....I love lobster...But I have always contended that if you took a piece of shit and dipped it in warm butter it would probably be palatable....Hey, here's my proof....lol......Interesting evening...Always nice to get a perspective from the other side of things...Take care.

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 7:15:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for sharing this. It sounds like it was an unlikely eye opener.

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 7:35:34 AM   
chiaThePet


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Status: offline 		All together now;

At first we were afraid, we were petrified
Kept thinking we could never live if You had a submissive side
We spent oh so many nights thinking You were such a Dom
Were we wrong? The title of Your post shattered the calm

And now we read and swallow fast
Expectation that You've fallen leaves us all aghast
Were we just simple fools to believe, was it all just fantasy?
Could it be for just one second You had escaped reality?

Come on now please, please say it isn't so
Just turn around now, cause we just can't take the blow
Weren't You the one we always looked on to be strong
Did You know we'd crumble if it proved that we were wrong

Oh no not You, You did survive
As long as You know how to Dom our hopes remains alive
You've got commands You've yet to give
Your Domination gets to live

You did survive
You did survive 

Yea Yea Yea

chia* (the pet)

< Message edited by chiaThePet -- 7/16/2007 7:38:18 AM >

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 7:42:19 AM   
RosaB


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Status: offline 		Michael,

Thank you for sharing this with us. I passionately enjoy a great mind fk and the experience you put forth was superb.  Cudos to you for your participation in a good cause and for having the strength in character to not only follow through with a commitment, but to post the details on this forum.  My fondness and respect grows ever more. 

Rosa

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