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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/17/2007 7:23:38 AM   
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Now he is playing > 300 crowds but back in his heyday he sold out Cobo Arena (Detroit MI) and other venues time and time again. There was a time when he drew absolutely huge crowds and almost always sold out. Thousands, not hundreds. Amboy Dukes... etc. Jeez I feel old *sobs*.

Personally I cannot stand him but to say that he is a 3rd rate musician is unfair.

He left Michigan because his entire herd of deer were slaughtered by ass***** , and some other reasons. He has been a source of amusement and controversy in Michigan for a few decades. His farm/retreat or whatever you want to call it was constantly broken into by the PETA crowd and there was a lot of vandalization (is that a word?).

BTW I am a huge Roy Buchanon fan! Along with Rory Gallagher, another whom IMO did not garner the accolades he should have.

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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/17/2007 7:31:01 AM   
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When Ted could sell out arenas to herds of teenager males, he did so.. now his tours follow the examples of groups like ZZ Top, and range from clubs like the House of Blues to the Nokia Theater in Times Square.

I wouldn't dream of telling anyone that they should like Ted, his music, or his commentary. 

And his skills as a guitarist are not displayed to their best advantage in his Top 40 hits. 

But he does possess talent to burn.

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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/17/2007 7:44:11 AM   
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After reviewing his tour schedule, I see he IS on the "Casino and Corndog Circuit!"

Look at those Fairs!



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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/17/2007 7:54:02 AM   
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He's probably just bitter because he hasn't even got to third rate yet. He hasn't got a fraction of the talent of the musicians he criticizes. Maybe he could have got a job cleaning Hendrix's toilet but that is about as near as he comes to the man. 


Thanks for adding music to the list of things you pontificate on out of total ignorance.


You're very welcome but it really doesn't need an ignorant like me to tell the ignorant as to how ignorant this redneck musician is.

Ted really would do better practicing on his guitar a little more or maybe he just doesn't have the talent which is why he prefers to criticize people of his profession that leave him sounding third rate at best. His best efforts on the guitar really don't even start to compare with Hendrix on a bad day.

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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/17/2007 8:05:27 AM   
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I wouldn't call playing to < 300 people in a bar in a strip mall in Clifton Park, NY ( that's NORTH of Albany, btw... ) as exactly raking in the moolah....


A lot of artists now are focusing on smaller venues.. returning to their roots, as it were... those are the artists, of course, who can AFFORD to play 300-person venues.






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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/17/2007 8:08:29 AM   
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I prefer smaller venues. A couple of years ago I saw Robin Trower in a teensy club, he was so close I could touch his leg. Then there was that time Buddy Guy hugged me.
I wanna be a groupie now.


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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/17/2007 8:11:26 AM   
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Tesla's doing the same thing.. and have been the past few years... it's incredible to be that close.. makes them more "real"... 

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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/17/2007 8:46:33 AM   
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derek st holmes plays a few local bars in my area........i adore going to just watch and hear him play....

instynctive? reckon b would mind if we listened to stranglehold together?

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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/17/2007 8:51:16 AM   
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He's probably just bitter because he hasn't even got to third rate yet. He hasn't got a fraction of the talent of the musicians he criticizes. Maybe he could have got a job cleaning Hendrix's toilet but that is about as near as he comes to the man. 


Thanks for adding music to the list of things you pontificate on out of total ignorance.


You're very welcome but it really doesn't need an ignorant like me to tell the ignorant as to how ignorant this redneck musician is.

Ted really would do better practicing on his guitar a little more or maybe he just doesn't have the talent which is why he prefers to criticize people of his profession that leave him sounding third rate at best. His best efforts on the guitar really don't even start to compare with Hendrix on a bad day.


Well, I asked for a poseur, and poof! .....



So is Nugent completely unable to play guitar as spelled out by the 'unable to make it to 3rd rate' comment.
Or is he in fact able to play guitar very well, and chooses to be an entertainer, instead of an artiste?

Hmmm  Zappa, Aerosmith, et al think Nugent plays a lot of guitar. Enough at least to choose him to represent them on various musical endeavors.

On the other hand, we have some dystopian bigot whose only proffered proof of Nugent's inability to play guitar is to lie about Ted criticizing Hendrix. (The actual quote was about how much more music Hendix could have given us had he lived) 

Bogus argumentum ad hominem, or real world results...  How to choose, how to choose?

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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/17/2007 8:52:48 AM   
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derek st holmes plays a few local bars in my area........i adore going to just watch and hear him play....

instynctive? reckon b would mind if we listened to stranglehold together?


You and her or you and Me? ;-)


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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/17/2007 1:01:58 PM   
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"Ted Nugent called, he wants his shirt back."

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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/17/2007 1:08:24 PM   
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I prefer smaller venues. A couple of years ago I saw Robin Trower in a teensy club, he was so close I could touch his leg. Then there was that time Buddy Guy hugged me.
I wanna be a groupie now.



You`re bringing back.My 1st concert(the early 70`s),Rory Gallagher,and then Robin Trower,opening for Jethro Tull.Fuck, I`m getting old.

Ted has talent, I love Stranglehold,(the bass line rocks!), Cat scratch fever and "Journey to the center of the mind",but he`s faded a bit,he`s push`n 60 y/o.Some guys lose it over time,and others,like Les Paul,still play great.He still plays a weekly show in NYC.
Nugent is not 3rd rate,look at the guitar player for Queens of the Stone Age.lol Love their tunes, and when Dave Grohl played w/ them,but I cringe at the guitar leads.That`s 3rd rate.

But, Nugent is no where near the talent of Stevy Ray Von, Robin Trower,Jimmy Page,Keith Richards(even today,he-he),or Peter Frampton.Has anyone heard "Pappa Chuby"?That guy`s got more talent in his fat pinky,then Ted does in his whole skinny body.
IMO,Nugent is in the rage the guy from Poison, or Rat.I love their tunes also,but to me,that`s the "cotton candy" of rock.Nothing you can make a meal with,or live on.

He`s is bitter about something ,though.I`m not sure what.Maybe he`s got mental health issues(I don`t mean that in the mean way).Seems to blame everyone but himself,for his frustrations.

He has no idea who`s high and who`s straight,not now anyway.Maybe back in the day,he could brag about passing the joint with out hitting it,or staying away from alcohol,but that was 20-30 plus years ago.
I believe the poster who mentioned him coming into rehab.It`s so typical of troubled souls,to be the most vocal against the  things that they are into themselves.Like Ted Haggard,and his anti-gay rants,only to find him in bed the a guy,doing crystal meth.Or Rush Limbaugh,who I heard disparage Gerry Garcia,in the most ugly ways, on the days after his death,only to find Rush is an addict,and gets caught w/ bags of Viagra,w/ out a prescription for them,etc.
When I hear people condemn and blame,rant and complain,I sometimes get the impression that the ranter makes his rants,b/c he can`t help it.It`s a compulsion,like the one Ted had w/ youngsters.

Ted is/was always railing about drink and drugs,maybe it`s a coping method,he uses that to reinforce himself and to remind him to stay on the wagon.I bet he`s a bad drunk,and should never have started.But the grace in which one  handles their sobriety,is a reflection of the person himself.He`s a party pooper w/ adrenalin(lol) and spite.

And,.... Ted has a pedophile problem,or did.He just loved little girls.He was involved with an underage kid in a LTR,and to make it all legal-like, payed the parents of the youngster off,and took legal custody of the girl.The song "little Miss Dangerous" was written about her.Imagine that?

Picture Steve Hanson of MSNBC`s "to catch a predator"in a kitchen ,and in walks Ted Negent.Get the picture?That`ll give you some insights,into "The Nuge"

He won`t get any better over time.People usually get worse.He obviously suffers and needs some sympathy.

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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/17/2007 5:20:09 PM   
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SHE MAKES HER MOVE AT MIDNIGHT
SHE’S GOT THE MAGIC TOUCH
THE LITTLE GIRL IS DANGEROUS
AND JUST A BIT TOO MUCH

IN THE MIDNIGHT HOUR
ABOUT THE STROKE OF TWELVE
SHE’LL BE STEPPING OUT
SHE’S GONNA RAISE SOME HELL
AND IT’S HER MOVE
SHE’S HOLDING THAT WILD CARD
GOTTA MAKE HER MOVE
SHE’LL MAKE YOUR LIFE SO HARD
HIGH HELL SNEAKERS
HEAD TO TOE IN LACE
SUCH A DANGEROUS BODY
WITH A LITTLE GIRLS FACE

Chorus:
LITTLE MISS DANGEROUS
LITTLE MISS DANGEROUS TO ME
SHE’S MY LITTLE MISS DANGEROUS
LITTLE MISS DANGEROUS TO ME
OH YES SHE IS

LOOKING FOR TROUBLE, LOOKING FOR SEX
WALKING ON THE WILD SIDE, SHE’S SO COMPLEX
SHE’S ON FIRE, THE HEAT IS COMING ON
THE GIRLS ON FIRE, SHE BURNS ALL NIGHT LONG
HIGH HELL SNEAKERS
HEAD TO TOE IN LACE
SUCH A DANGEROUS BODY
WITH A LITTLE GIRLS FACE


Wow... That *is* a 9.5 on the Mark Foley Scale of Creepiness.



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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/17/2007 11:07:36 PM   
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he has said in many interviews that his drug of choice was pussy...........all i know is "stranglehold" is orgasm in a song, for me anyhow


Definitely one of my favorite rock songs.

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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/18/2007 11:09:25 AM   
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I always liked the "Great White Buffalo" song, radical far beyond left v right.  He does TV reality shows, and is a hunting advocate.  Not exactly hurting for money, and I think he plays shows because he loves to play music.  That he will play for <300 people is great.  30 years ago he was selling out arenas, and he is still kicking.  Good for him.  He played our State Fair for about 5000 people a few years ago, got in some world class King Salmon fishing and Bow hunting, and was on the radio talking about Gun and Subsistance Rights.  He just does what he does, speaks his mind, and enjoys it... why does that piss off some people?

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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/18/2007 11:26:23 AM   
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Well, again we come full circle to an OP topic.  Never mind the attempted derail about guitar talent, what exactly is it that Ted says that is so upsetting?

One comment already trotted out, was that he said that Hendix was a crappy guitarist...turns out that the actual quote is that Hendrix et al may have died before giving us their best work.

Another line that inflames is the 'I've just got one thing to say to all of you people who don't understand a word of English... go back home!'
Of course if Cheech Marin said it with an exaggerated accent, and a wink, everyone would get the joke...
('People who don't understand a word of English' would not be able to be offended, unless they brought a translator to the Nugent concert with them.)

And Nugent's advice on how to curb the spread of AIDs is a little oversimplified, but anatomically correct...gay men who engage in zero unprotected anal sex probably do have a lower chance of contracting the disease.

Face it, Ted Nugent is the counterbalance to Michael Moore...
it isn't so much what he says, it is how he says it that drives some people crazy, and makes them willing to attack him personally on any and all levels.

It is called being a 'gadfly'.. It got Socrates a cup of poison for his troubles. 
And today, it is making Nugent, Limbaugh, Coulter, and a few others rich(er).

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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/18/2007 9:42:55 PM   
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Well, again we come full circle to an OP topic.  Never mind the attempted derail about guitar talent, what exactly is it that Ted says that is so upsetting?


One comment already trotted out, was that he said that Hendix was a crappy guitarist...turns out that the actual quote is that Hendrix et al may have died before giving us their best work.

Another line that inflames is the 'I've just got one thing to say to all of you people who don't understand a word of English... go back home!'
Of course if Cheech Marin said it with an exaggerated accent, and a wink, everyone would get the joke...
('People who don't understand a word of English' would not be able to be offended, unless they brought a translator to the Nugent concert with them.)

And Nugent's advice on how to curb the spread of AIDs is a little oversimplified, but anatomically correct...gay men who engage in zero unprotected anal sex probably do have a lower chance of contracting the disease.

Face it, Ted Nugent is the counterbalance to Michael Moore...
it isn't so much what he says, it is how he says it that drives some people crazy, and makes them willing to attack him personally on any and all levels.

It is called being a 'gadfly'.. It got Socrates a cup of poison for his troubles. 
And today, it is making Nugent, Limbaugh, Coulter, and a few others rich(er).





"Another line that inflames is the 'I've just got one thing to say to all of you people who don't understand a word of English... go back home!'

Never heard that one,but it strikes me a ugly and hateful.
When he said that,it was for his audience,not to the non-English speaker.
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('People who don't understand a word of English' would not be able to be offended, unless they brought a translator to the Nugent concert with them.)
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That`s about as silly a notion as I`ve ever heard.Right,he-he, Bring a translator to a Nuge concert?Get it?Try to defend the Nuge`s comments w/ something more believable.



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"what exactly is it that Ted says that is so upsetting?"

You`re kidding ,right?It`s one of those things,I guess,that if you don`t know,it can`t be explained.

"Of course if Cheech Marin said it with an exaggerated accent, and a wink, everyone would get the joke..."

So,.. you know all about  what context is, and understand that a Jew,tell`n a Jewish joke ,to a group of jews ,is different then a bigot,tell`n a hurtful joke about how jews are stingy or have big noses.And the difference between a black guy using the "n" word with his friends,and a bigot, call`n a black guy the  n-word.I think Ted was playing to fear and loathing.I`ve never seen him do something up lifting.
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"And Nugent's advice on how to curb the spread of AIDs is a little oversimplified, but anatomically correct...gay men who engage in zero unprotected anal sex probably do have a lower chance of contracting the disease."

Oh my....What a buffoon.Thanks for sharing that about Ted.
The people getting HIV in the US.are mostly IV drug users,and their sex partners.Nothing to do with gay,there.I`m not gay,but I hear that oral sex is what happens most.And plenty of straight people,including myself ,enjoy anal sex.<pauses,reflects on that>And the disease can be spread through most any intimate act,by both men and women and in any combination.

To me,the statement shows ignorance,bigotry towards gays,a serious lack of knowledge,a desire to spread mis-information .Oh, and BTW,any and all  persons ,....who engage in zero unprotected anal sex probably do have a lower chance of contracting the disease.Duhh!What a dope.
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"Face it, Ted Nugent is the counterbalance to Michael Moore... "

If that`s true,....THANK YOU GOD!


"it isn't so much what he says, it is how he says it that drives some people crazy, and makes them willing to attack him personally on any and all levels."

Believe me,lol,...it`s what he says,...not how. lol
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If a guy puts himself out there in public,and screams and criticizes,he should expect some in return.If you do talk shows and rant,and attack people,don`t be a cry baby and whine, when people call you on your shit.He`s no victim.
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"It got Socrates a cup of poison for his troubles." 

Oh my god...
To equate Socrates with the "Nuge" is true an insult(to  Socrates).

How dare you.....            

ok,.......Bwah-ha-ha-ha,<continues to laugh> 





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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/19/2007 6:54:14 AM   
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I doubt seriously that you are so stupid as to believe that quoting Ted for purposes of discussing the OP means that anyone is defending him or embracing bigoted sentiments.

So the next most logical supposition is dishonest trollage on your part.

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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/19/2007 7:40:01 AM   
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I love to see people in smaller venues...hey, the country stars have been doing it for years, and their fans appreciate being able to "reach out and touch"  I've always wanted something like that for rock.

mmmmmm....I do love Stranglehold as well....I also like Piledriver, from when he was with Damn Yankees...loved them too by the way......they are great songs to have sex to, especially when you're....um....I think I'd better leave it at that....lol (see I said that in a nice and clean way)......LOL

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RE: The world according to Ted!! - 7/19/2007 9:10:32 AM   
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Don't knock small venues. The Stones played a small club in Chicago.before they started their last US tour. It may have seated 300 but the show was something else far better than the stadium show in front of how ever many thousands a couple of days later.

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