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Alienmindsinc -> Online Slaves (6/22/2005 10:11:48 AM)

Hello all,

I normally don't do online D/s relationships, but recently I met a man that seemed to be serious, and we started online training working toward a real life situation.

Also recently, yahoo deleted his profiles/emails, etc. He called me and asked me to give him a gmail account, so I did. Now he is completely missing, no communications or anything in the last week or so. My question is how long I should put up with him missing training sessions and not emailing/calling me back before I shelf him and move on. Previously, he's been prompt and responsive for the 2 months I've been "training" him online, but since yahoo killed his accounts, I can't get ahold of him.

Thanks in advance, for the advice,

-Ser Matthew




Gauge -> RE: Online Slaves (6/22/2005 10:29:25 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Alienmindsinc

Also recently, yahoo deleted his profiles/emails, etc. He called me and asked me to give him a gmail account, so I did. Now he is completely missing, no communications or anything in the last week or so. My question is how long I should put up with him missing training sessions and not emailing/calling me back before I shelf him and move on. Previously, he's been prompt and responsive for the 2 months I've been "training" him online, but since yahoo killed his accounts, I can't get ahold of him.


If this is out of the ordinary for him then give it some more time. Life has the unexpected random factor that can throw our lives into chaos and we don't have time for anything else least of all the Internet. Perhaps a family crisis has taken place and quite frankly takes priority over what he is doing with you. If he has a way to get in touch with you, be patient, but if it goes well over two weeks without any contact, I would begin to suspect that something isn't quite right.

I have had a few online relationships where the woman disappeared off the radar. It raises all sorts of questions and is perhaps indicative of some underlying problem i.e. the one woman had a severe drinking problem that I wasn't aware of.

If they get back in contact soon, don't be afraid to ask what happened. For me, and I do not expect you to do the same, this would be one red flag that I would just watch and see what happens.

I hope that helps.




cellogrrlMK -> RE: Online Slaves (6/22/2005 10:35:41 AM)

So interesting this thread has popped up, it has saved me the trouble of starting one myself! LOL

I just have one question, with an example to back it up, so to speak.

Example: When I logged on a profile came up with someone announcing they now had "ownership papers" of a particular slave. I then went and looked at said slave's profile. Hers basically said the same thing. They live in different countries across a friggin' ocean!

My question is essentially What's the point???? Being one who does not understand what fulfillment folks can get out of an online only relationship I'd like to hear people's viewpoints.

Long distance relationships are hard enough, but a long distance online only relationship? <sigh> Please tell me what I'm missing.

cello




EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Online Slaves (6/22/2005 10:39:11 AM)

Well the warm and fuzzy answer is to talk it out, decide if you're fulfilled, seek other options and think long term.

The realistic answer is that this guy probably has a handful of people he is "training" online, and/or a wife who found out about it and was nothing more than a player who said what you wanted to hear.

Get offline, find munches and local groups and real people. It's not much better, still plenty of gossip and drama, but at least you can throttle them in real life :)




Alienmindsinc -> RE: Online Slaves (6/22/2005 10:44:38 AM)

It does help a bit.

I had thought that he might have some situation, there has been one similar situation, but it wasn't this long. Something that is a week long worries me. You shouldn't get the idea that I'm mad at him, this is uncharacteristic of him; even with the last situation, he emailed me the third day. I don't know, I guess I worry too much when I shouldn't.






Domin81 -> RE: Online Slaves (6/22/2005 11:13:48 AM)

For me online/cyber relationships are kind of the same as having a bath while still wearing your socks and underwear... You should consider getting out in the community and meeting people real time.

But in regard to your question, it is hard to know what happened to him..maybe you never will. I don't pursue people that don't maintain their part of any kind of relationship...I let them know where I stand and then it is up to them to do their part. If he crops up again, evaluate the reasons/excuses and decide whether a second chance is merited.




Gauge -> RE: Online Slaves (6/22/2005 11:15:40 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: cellogrrlMK

My question is essentially What's the point???? Being one who does not understand what fulfillment folks can get out of an online only relationship I'd like to hear people's viewpoints.

Long distance relationships are hard enough, but a long distance online only relationship? <sigh> Please tell me what I'm missing.

cello


Well, I have had one serious long distance relationship over the Internet. At first it was online only and we both knew that it might never get to be more than that due to obligations we had where we lived. It was frustrating to the point where I began to curse the miles between us. We fell in love, I couldn't help it, it happened. Our relationship was unlike any other I have ever had. This went on for about two years. The day came where she surprised me and said that she was going to hop on a plane and fly out to see me. I was an ecstatic, nervous, jittery, bumbling fool until the time that I laid my eyes on her for the first time in real life. She stayed for a little over a week. I was so happy, she was everything I had hoped for. She went home and at the airport the one security guy pulled us aside and said with tears in his eyes that our good-bye to each other was the most beautiful thing he had ever seen. One month later I lost contact with her. I tried calling and writing emails to no avail. Sadly one night my phone rang and it was a lady that I didn't know but she said that she was a friend of this woman and that she regretted to inform me that a few weeks earlier my love had a seizure in her sleep and died.

Well, a sad story but you asked what the purpose of a long distance relationship was. Sometimes they start out being only online relationships, but can bloom into much, much more. I hope and pray that no one ever has to experience the pain I went through, but I do hope that others may find the same joy and love that I did. It can happen.




shyguyuk -> RE: Online Slaves (6/22/2005 11:33:25 AM)

hi, ive had two online realthionships which i thought were serious sadly both doms vanished once things started to move towards meeting in person sadly i think online realthionships are just that online and nothing more its all to easy to be something else online and very easy to get out of it when your tierd...hopefully im wrong and i hope they get back in touch with you

best wish's, michelle x




sensualkitty -> RE: Online Slaves (6/22/2005 11:45:20 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Gauge


Well, I have had one serious long distance relationship over the Internet. At first it was online only and we both knew that it might never get to be more than that due to obligations we had where we lived. It was frustrating to the point where I began to curse the miles between us. We fell in love, I couldn't help it, it happened. Our relationship was unlike any other I have ever had. This went on for about two years. The day came where she surprised me and said that she was going to hop on a plane and fly out to see me. I was an ecstatic, nervous, jittery, bumbling fool until the time that I laid my eyes on her for the first time in real life. She stayed for a little over a week. I was so happy, she was everything I had hoped for. She went home and at the airport the one security guy pulled us aside and said with tears in his eyes that our good-bye to each other was the most beautiful thing he had ever seen. One month later I lost contact with her. I tried calling and writing emails to no avail. Sadly one night my phone rang and it was a lady that I didn't know but she said that she was a friend of this woman and that she regretted to inform me that a few weeks earlier my love had a seizure in her sleep and died.

Well, a sad story but you asked what the purpose of a long distance relationship was. Sometimes they start out being only online relationships, but can bloom into much, much more. I hope and pray that no one ever has to experience the pain I went through, but I do hope that others may find the same joy and love that I did. It can happen.


A sweet but sad story Gauge, I'm sorry for your loss. I guess my question had more to do with people who say they have a slave or who say they are slaves to people they most likely will NOT meet, or who have no intentions of meeting, just keeping it strictly online.




cellogrrlMK -> RE: Online Slaves (6/22/2005 11:49:28 AM)

I agree.....







Gauge -> RE: Online Slaves (6/22/2005 12:00:54 PM)

quote:

A sweet but sad story Gauge, I'm sorry for your loss. I guess my question had more to do with people who say they have a slave or who say they are slaves to people they most likely will NOT meet, or who have no intentions of meeting, just keeping it strictly online.


Thank you for your sentiment.

When you put it that way, I guess it could come down to someone wanting to explore that side of themselves without the commitment that real life would bring. Perhaps it is a training thing where they want to be taught to be a better Dom or slave/sub. Whatever the reasons Dominating or submitting to someone over the Internet is kind of like masturbation, it might feel great but there is no substitute for the real thing.




stormsfate -> RE: Online Slaves (6/22/2005 12:11:30 PM)

<giggling> I have done that when Master has been logged in a couple of times. He logs out of his account on the other side, and doesn't even post to the boards (very rarely at least), but for some reason, it leaves him logged in on this side.



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Alienmindsinc -> RE: Online Slaves (6/22/2005 12:15:47 PM)

The thing is, Billie is only 10 miles away from me. I have all of the information I need to drive over to see him, but in respect to his wishes, I won't. He didn't want to move to real life domination yet. I've been given confirmation of everything, including his chastity belt (I was supposed to get the keys in the mail this week.). We've yet to meet, though.




cellogrrlMK -> RE: Online Slaves (6/22/2005 2:47:16 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: stormsfate

<giggling> I have done that when Master has been logged in a couple of times. He logs out of his account on the other side, and doesn't even post to the boards (very rarely at least), but for some reason, it leaves him logged in on this side.



[:D]




cellogrrlMK -> RE: Online Slaves (6/22/2005 2:48:56 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Gauge

Thank you for your sentiment.

When you put it that way, I guess it could come down to someone wanting to explore that side of themselves without the commitment that real life would bring. Perhaps it is a training thing where they want to be taught to be a better Dom or slave/sub. Whatever the reasons Dominating or submitting to someone over the Internet is kind of like masturbation, it might feel great but there is no substitute for the real thing.


Well, when you put it THAT way I suppose it makes sense! I never thought of it that way. I see all these cyberDoms collaring cyberslaves right and left and it made me wonder.

Thank you for such a well put answer! [:)]

cello




firstsub -> RE: Online Slaves (6/22/2005 2:54:56 PM)

[&:]a weekis enough time




proudsub -> RE: Online Slaves (6/22/2005 4:32:57 PM)

quote:

My question is essentially What's the point???? Being one who does not understand what fulfillment folks can get out of an online only relationship I'd like to hear people's viewpoints.


This has been discussed extensively, these threads might help:

online relationships

serving online

to all with an online submissive

online D/s





SecretDomme -> RE: Online Slaves (6/22/2005 7:02:30 PM)

I am wondering how he can live only 10 minutes away from you and not even want to meet for coffee, yet you have been training him online for two months. Seems a bit odd to me, but sometimes making that transition to "real life" is a difficult one. I wouldn't wait too much longer.

I wish you luck,
Julie




Overlord218 -> RE: Online Slaves (6/22/2005 7:03:52 PM)

I've had an online relationship for the past 5 or 6 years now on and off, with a sub living in Dublin, Ireland. Given I live in Australia, it can't be much longer a distance. lol Through those years, she and I have had a very fulfilling relationship in which we've both learned a lot from each other.

Next week, she arrives here for a month's visit, and I am SO looking forward to spending realtime with her. Having said that though, we both know that there'll never be any possibility of realtime, due to the obvious circumstances.

I guess what I'm trying to say is a LDR can be fulfilling and enjoyable. It depends what you want out of it.




teirtu -> RE: Online Slaves (6/22/2005 8:17:53 PM)

I agree with EmeraldSlave. There are FAR too many married men playing games in this bdsm world thinking submissive women are easy, and even when when they aren't married, are just playing games. Yes, go to munches, MEET REAL PEOPLE... and use online as a way to communicate with those who WILL meet you. Don't waste your time online. Unless you want to.

teirtu
~who is now vanilla




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