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RE: Your choice of stereos. - 7/17/2007 5:05:39 PM   
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Yamaha reciever and CD player, McIntosh cassette deck (rarely used), and cheap-ass Pioneer speakers, hopefully replaced by some nice Klipsch bookshelf models one day soon.


I'm not familiar with the Cheap-Ass model line of Pioneer speakers. I do, however, have a special "Cheap-Ass" edition RCA CD changer in my 'drum practicing' stereo. It's a total piece of shit. I think I'll shoot it some day. I wonder if they were all designed by Cheap-Ass Engineering, Ltd.? Those guys created a lot of stuff.

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RE: Your choice of stereos. - 7/17/2007 5:05:39 PM   
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Enough "BLAH, BLAH, BLAH"

What are the numbers for: frequency response, impedance, sensitivity, power output, power handling

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I'm not disputing numbers. I would, however, take the consumers that Bose is marketing the Wave Radio and Acoustic Wave products for and put them in a room with either of those units and include units and/or loudspeaker systems from their competition, now read this carefully -- in that price range. Have the consumers make a selection based upon auditioning sessions, not just reading specs.


WHAT SPECS? I asked you for Specs. Why can't you provide the basic metrics *ALL* reputable audio vendors use to grade their products? ( What is BOSE ashamed of, refusing to provide them, I wonder... )

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I've learned a long time ago that numbers of any kind can be fudged, including audio specs. Back in the 1970s, during the "receiver wars" that's all it really was... one big battle over who's specs on paper were better. I believe this is why the method for determining output RMS wattage was also changed somewhere between the 1970s and the 1990s. Too many manufacturers were playing with the numbers back in the '70s.



Of Course, you will have noted that the REPUTABLE VENDOR, Meyer, has provided the methodology and specifics for interpreting their numbers properly, and comparing them against similar products from other REPUTABLE VENDORS.

BOSE is the company playing games here.

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When an audio professional's career and reputation are on the line, they take printed specs into consideration only as so far as filtering out obviously bad equipment; on the order of tens of percents bad. They usually don't worry about tenths of percents of difference among specs, but prefer to use past experiences of other issues like customer service, equipment longevity, etc. as their deciding factors. Once a list of likely candidates has been created, actual auditions in appropriate listening environments take place so the final selection can be made. At least, that's how I and my fellow sound guys "back in the day" went about it; it may be different now.


Actually, it's simpler. BOSE's refusal to be honest and open about their products disqualify them from consideration.

Hey, if it SOUNDS GOOD TO YOU, then knock yourself out. But don't delude yourself that BOSE is anything but a toy manufacturer with good marketing.



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