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RE: Hair care for long hair...Hair maintenance - 7/18/2007 8:57:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: playfulotter

i know there have been message threads for long hair in the past but i have always been one to cut my hair once it was past my shoulders..now my new Master wants my hair long and i had it dyed and highlighted about 3-4 weeks ago and cut just a little bit but i feel it is dry on the ends..what do You do or use to keep it looking really nice on the ends when it gets longer...thanks for all Your help!

rhonda


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doesn't use rubber bands or hair ties with metal when pulling it back.
doesn't do things that damage it such as dye or highlight.
keeps it away from heat sources like blow dryers and the sun.
doesn't permanently or temporarily curl/straighten through the use of hot irons.
gets the ends trimmed every 4-6 months.
massaging the scalp and thinking good thoughts while at it never hurts!!!
washes/conditions once a week, as it is dry.
and for the love of furry little creatures everywhere...doesn't use Pantene.

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RE: Hair care for long hair...Hair maintenance - 7/18/2007 9:04:30 AM   
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you could all be completely drastic and do what a friend of mine did; She got terribly annoyed at her dry stringy hair...which would often be oily and knotted. She tried all the hair products she dared to to try and 'fix' the problem. In the end she cut all her hair really really short. Sort of bogan for a few months. She never washes it with any sort of hair product.

Now she has this gorgeous feminim short crop [she decided she liked it short] and still only washes with water from the shower.  The products in shops actually intensionally leave build up of many things in your hair. A regular change of hair shampoos is good because each shampoo offers a different solution. As for washing every day; I tend to only wash my hair every few days. I tie it in a loose 'loop bun' on the top of my head when I shower. And running your fingers through your hair when you condition it is an excellent way to get out most of the nasty tangles. As for after the shower.....loop your hair in your towel for around 2-5 mintes...without brushing/drying before hand. Then try brushing gently first with finger tips and then a broad toothed comb. If anything, get a basic scalp massager [can be bought in many shops now] to encourage healthy roots.

-Mess

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RE: Hair care for long hair...Hair maintenance - 7/18/2007 9:41:46 AM   
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Damn, chia, you sound like you know your stuff!

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RE: Hair care for long hair...Hair maintenance - 7/18/2007 9:49:41 AM   
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I have had short hair for years, and just for grins and giggles have let mine grow.....can't stand it, but haven't gotten it cut (yet).  As far as my condition, it's always been in good shape without a whole lot of work on my part.  For leave in conditioning, I've used Humectress...just a little TINY dab rubbed into my hair.  it's not heavy, and really works.  I wash and condition every day, do the run my fingers thru it while rinsing to take out the tangles, and wrap my hair in a towel vs. rubbing it.  It still ends up tangled, i just gently comb thru it.  I did find a suave product called extreme strength, it's a leave in product in a blue bottle....works great!  I don't layer products on my hair, use only one at a time......it's fine, but there's lots of it, so it will look flat.  I occasionally use a flat iron on it, dry it on the days I work, other wise, just air dry.  I do color it.  It sounds like it should be a mess of straw, but it's not.  I'm pretty low maintenance all together, so I don't spend lots of time on my mop, just wash, blast it dry and out the door I go!

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RE: Hair care for long hair...Hair maintenance - 7/18/2007 10:02:05 AM   
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HI ~ long hair can be a lot of work to keep beautiful, bbut it is so worth it.  I used to think long hair was not mean to be worn by "mature" ladies - but I am in my mid 50's and my hair grazes the cahir when I sit down.  In 2004 I got 12+ inches cut off it for Locks of Love.  Anyone with long hair contemplating a change, please consider finding a salon that will do Locks of Love, they do your cut and style free for donating your hair and it is such a good cause.  Doing it then was my "thank you" for being totally cancer free (endometrial cancer) and if I ever get that much cut off again I will certainly do it again as well.

Everything thats been said here is such good advice.  Good professional products, not stressing it, no rubber bands, if you braid it not too tight, scalp massages ( in the shower I even massage Sir's scalp because I know it feels so good).  A wide tooth comb or even a "pick" for wet detangles, hang your head down and run fingers from scalp to ends gently while hair is wet first, then the pick or wide comb gets most tangles out while wet and makes the brushing later much easier.  A good leave in conditioner spritzed each morning, especially if you know you will be in the sun.  A scarf or hat if possible in the sun - wide brimmed hats also protect your tender, sweet face from the sun!

Some surprising but time tested home/herbal treatments:

Here is somethign that may sound funny but I can guarentee it will work good for dry and damaged hair - plain old good, virgin olive oil!  Rub it on your hands and massage lightly through hair (not scalp) and then concentrate on the ends. BTW - great for your hands also!  You can do a hot oil treatment with it - warm the oil - not hot just luke warm, and apply gently especially to the ends, wrap in a warm towel and allow to really soak in, even over night.  Then gently wash with very mild shampoo.  Another home trick for hair  to lighten it, add highlights slowly and looks very natural with no stress to hair is to make a cup or two of strong chammomile tea, let cool and apply to hair - catch it as it runs out and do it over several times for maximin effect, rinse gently with lukewarm to cool water and then pour the tea and rinse water in your garden, especially veggie gardens.  Steeped fresh lemon balm is also good and not as harsh as fresh lemons.  Lemon juice or vinegar will strip built up chemicals but please not to much or too often and follow with conditioner.  Mayo - yep, mayonaise ...  lots of commercial conditioners have alcohol - duh!  good old mayo - even the cheaper generic - but mayo not salad dressing.  Massage mayo in good scalp to ends, get saran wrap and wrap mayoed hair, wrap in warm towl for about 20 - 30 minutes (toss towels in dryed to warm them, chnage towel after it cools).  Then gently shampoo as usual. You can do this once a month for intensive treatment or even once a week if hair is really bad.

Be Well, MsOpal

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RE: Hair care for long hair...Hair maintenance - 7/18/2007 10:04:35 AM   
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I've had long hair for many years. Don't use rubber bands.....at all..... as they really do a number on your hair as far as breakage goes. If you tie it back use something soft and gentle. After I wash and condition my hair in the shower I use a leave in conditioner (which also aids in detangling) and as much as possible I let it just air dry. I never try to comb or brush it til I've ran my fingers through it to detangle starting from the bottom and work my way up. That way I'm not just pulling the tangles out, I actually work them out.

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RE: Hair care for long hair...Hair maintenance - 7/18/2007 10:21:46 AM   
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I suppose it would depend on the type of hair you have.  I am in the process of going to a hair dresser to get my hair to grow out.  These are the things she has recommended.

2000 iu of Vitamin E per day (internal)
Vitamin E Gel daily (external) (can be obtained at GNC)
Wash with Nioxin Shampoo and Condition with Nioxin Products  http://www.nioxin.com/
Take vitamins that stimulate hair growth  http://www.nouritress.com/

People don't seem to understand that everything that goes on with the body including hair growth has something to do with what is put into the body.

To prevent tangles without using creme rinse, use a leave in conditioner daily.  Something like "No More Tangles" or "Infusium 23"  I use the generic version of Infusium 23 and it works just fine.

Granted I am Black and have a whole set of my own issues with hair growth, the products I mentioned are crossover products that are generally good for all types of hair.

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RE: Hair care for long hair...Hair maintenance - 7/18/2007 10:27:37 AM   
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Thanks for the great clues!  I'll buy that nioxin stuff and get started.  My hormones checked out and I don't use birth control pills...no more hair pulling and nothing to keep it back but my ears.  I take a vitamin each day and eat healthy, but am now making sure I get 100% rd protein.  I think the dermatologist will do a biopsy to make sure nothing else is going on.  About 6 months ago my doctor put me on a regimen of antifungals to see if it wasn't some kind of ringworm or something transmitted from the horses. 
Again, sorry for the thread hijack, and thanks for the help.

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RE: Hair care for long hair...Hair maintenance - 7/18/2007 12:20:50 PM   
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If your you are not prone to oily hair then try to only wash it every other day for a few week let the natural oils that constant shampooing strip away rebuild hydrating the shaft as for weekly maintenance I shampoo with a clarifying shampoo using lukewarm water when the water is clear i turn only ice cold water on the open the shaft  then I apply mayonnaise on  my head and cover with a shower cap  leave it on for at least an hour and rinse the high fat content is superb for  hair  and the shot of cold water is excellent for shine, also of you use a blow dryer to style when you are finished give your hair a shot of the cold air it sets the style and provide shine....


< Message edited by bbwslit2use -- 7/18/2007 12:22:01 PM >


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RE: Hair care for long hair...Hair maintenance - 7/18/2007 12:27:16 PM   
chiaThePet


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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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Any clues?


Hormones?  Birth control pills?



Good point KatyLied, medications can reek havoc on the hair, as such is
delivered into the hair via the bloodstream. Any shock to the system can
also cause hair loss, an injury or surgery for example, anesthesia can also
contribute. If symptoms of noticeable hair loss occur after beginning a
new medication, speak with your health care professional, the dose may
need to be adjusted. Body chemistry changes periodically as we age
also, this can contribute. Hair can naturally get thinner as we age, but a
sudden noticable loss of hair is sign of something out of balance. You
know your hair, if there is suddenly more of it in the drain than on your
head, seek a professional opinion.

chia* (the pet) 

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RE: Hair care for long hair...Hair maintenance - 7/18/2007 12:32:21 PM   
chiaThePet


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ORIGINAL: windchymes

Damn, chia, you sound like you know your stuff!


If one is going to do something for a living, they'd better study up! Thanks!

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RE: Hair care for long hair...Hair maintenance - 7/18/2007 12:36:56 PM   
chiaThePet


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ORIGINAL: BBBTBW

I suppose it would depend on the type of hair you have.  I am in the process of going to a hair dresser to get my hair to grow out.  These are the things she has recommended.

2000 iu of Vitamin E per day (internal)
Vitamin E Gel daily (external) (can be obtained at GNC)
Wash with Nioxin Shampoo and Condition with Nioxin Products  http://www.nioxin.com/
Take vitamins that stimulate hair growth  http://www.nouritress.com/

People don't seem to understand that everything that goes on with the body including hair growth has something to do with what is put into the body.

To prevent tangles without using creme rinse, use a leave in conditioner daily.  Something like "No More Tangles" or "Infusium 23"  I use the generic version of Infusium 23 and it works just fine.

Granted I am Black and have a whole set of my own issues with hair growth, the products I mentioned are crossover products that are generally good for all types of hair.


i do Black Hair! i do Black Hair! i love ALL Hair! It makes me happy!

chia* (the pet)

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RE: Hair care for long hair...Hair maintenance - 7/18/2007 12:47:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: petdave

On a related note... can anyone (Chia?) recommend a good technique, and/or the right tools to use, for brushing tangles out of someone else's long, straight hair without hurting them? i would love to be able to brush my wife's hair for her from time to time, but i can't seem to do it without hurting her  Since i'm always in a hurry in the mornings, i tend to just tear through tangles in my own hair, which certainly harms it, and that isn't acceptable when taking care of her. 


First off - make sure you always work from the ends up to the crown.  Using a pick makes it much easier as brushes tend to tear the hair.  A very large comb will work as well.  After all the tangles are out you can move to a brush.  My mom passed away of cancer several years ago and I still have her old wig brushes and they are the best brushes I have seen in a long long time.

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RE: Hair care for long hair...Hair maintenance - 7/18/2007 12:58:37 PM   
chiaThePet


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ORIGINAL: MsOpal


Some surprising but time tested home/herbal treatments:
Here is somethign that may sound funny but I can guarentee it will work good for dry and damaged hair - plain old good, virgin olive oil!  Rub it on your hands and massage lightly through hair (not scalp) and then concentrate on the ends. BTW - great for your hands also!  You can do a hot oil treatment with it - warm the oil - not hot just luke warm, and apply gently especially to the ends, wrap in a warm towel and allow to really soak in, even over night.  Then gently wash with very mild shampoo.  Another home trick for hair  to lighten it, add highlights slowly and looks very natural with no stress to hair is to make a cup or two of strong chammomile tea, let cool and apply to hair - catch it as it runs out and do it over several times for maximin effect, rinse gently with lukewarm to cool water and then pour the tea and rinse water in your garden, especially veggie gardens.  Steeped fresh lemon balm is also good and not as harsh as fresh lemons.  Lemon juice or vinegar will strip built up chemicals but please not to much or too often and follow with conditioner.  Mayo - yep, mayonaise ...  lots of commercial conditioners have alcohol - duh!  good old mayo - even the cheaper generic - but mayo not salad dressing.  Massage mayo in good scalp to ends, get saran wrap and wrap mayoed hair, wrap in warm towl for about 20 - 30 minutes (toss towels in dryed to warm them, chnage towel after it cools).  Then gently shampoo as usual. You can do this once a month for intensive treatment or even once a week if hair is really bad.

Be Well, MsOpal


The use of such products will make the hair "feel" and "look" healthy and shiny,
but the molecular structure is such that it will simply coat the hair and offer no
penetration to benefit the interior of the strand. When shopping for products,
check for hydrolyzed plant protein of some kind listed as an ingredient. The
molecular structure is small enough to penetrate the hair shaft and thus add
needed protein to the meat of the hair. Walking around with mayo all over
your head can be fun, just stay away from hungry man folk. Though making
him lick it off might prove to be just the beginning of a nice shampoo and
scalp massage surrender. And yeah, Dom's have hands too, no reason They
can't contribute to your happiness. Just convince Them that it's the lastest
in "mind" control. "i surrender, i surrender, oh yes, just a little lower and i'm
sooooo totally yours!"

chia* (the pet)

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RE: Hair care for long hair...Hair maintenance - 7/18/2007 1:23:36 PM   
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i really enjoyed the comments on this post, i also have issues with my hair also. thanks!

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RE: Hair care for long hair...Hair maintenance - 7/18/2007 1:58:25 PM   
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>snip for brevity<
The use of such products will make the hair "feel" and "look" healthy and shiny, but the molecular structure is such that it will simply coat the hair and offer no penetration to benefit the interior of the strand. 

chia - since I grew up studying and using natural home grown and  other home/herbals, and have continued to do so  for over 40 years now I can honestly  say while what you said may be true of some things I mentioned, it is not true of all of them, and for those of us who do not want manufactured goods, chemical goods, and other assorted things that can be dangerous to some people either in or on us,  the home/herbals can be a very effective alternative.  Also - ALL hydrolyzed plant protein contains MSG - yes the same MSG that can cause such severe allergic reactions in some people, so anyone known to be allergic should be aware and not use those type of products (sources - 2 good ones among many:
Blaylock, Russell L., M.D.   Excitotoxins:  The Taste that Kills, Health Press, Santa Fe, NM  87504, 1994. Schwartz, George R., M.D. and Schwartz, Kathleen A.  In Bad Taste: The MSG Symptom Complex, Health Press, Santa Fe, NM  87504)

There are many many other natural, safe, very effective conditioning treatments you can make cheaply and easily in your kitchen with such items as honey, egg yolk, avocado, yogurt, rosemary, sage, thyme, mint and whoa - even vodka! OK, the vodka can be a bit drying but it is an old old hint for amazing shine and gloss for infrequent use - think photographs - hair stylists still use vodka in shampoo for models going on shoots. Besides, what's wrong with guys drooling and begging to lick your hair?  Some of them will even pay you!!!




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RE: Hair care for long hair...Hair maintenance - 7/18/2007 2:21:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MsOpal


>snip for brevity<
The use of such products will make the hair "feel" and "look" healthy and shiny, but the molecular structure is such that it will simply coat the hair and offer no penetration to benefit the interior of the strand. 

chia - since I grew up studying and using natural home grown and  other home/herbals, and have continued to do so  for over 40 years now I can honestly  say while what you said may be true of some things I mentioned, it is not true of all of them, and for those of us who do not want manufactured goods, chemical goods, and other assorted things that can be dangerous to some people either in or on us,  the home/herbals can be a very effective alternative.  Also - ALL hydrolyzed plant protein contains MSG - yes the same MSG that can cause such severe allergic reactions in some people, so anyone known to be allergic should be aware and not use those type of products (sources - 2 good ones among many:
Blaylock, Russell L., M.D.   Excitotoxins:  The Taste that Kills, Health Press, Santa Fe, NM  87504, 1994. Schwartz, George R., M.D. and Schwartz, Kathleen A.  In Bad Taste: The MSG Symptom Complex, Health Press, Santa Fe, NM  87504)

There are many many other natural, safe, very effective conditioning treatments you can make cheaply and easily in your kitchen with such items as honey, egg yolk, avocado, yogurt, rosemary, sage, thyme, mint and whoa - even vodka! OK, the vodka can be a bit drying but it is an old old hint for amazing shine and gloss for infrequent use - think photographs - hair stylists still use vodka in shampoo for models going on shoots. Besides, what's wrong with guys drooling and begging to lick your hair?  Some of them will even pay you!!!





Wasn't discounting the use of such products Ma'am, but the molecular structure
of oil based products is simply to large to penetrate the hair shaft, but do have
a conditioning effect on the cuticle. Absolutely nothing wrong with using
natural products, but as with chemicals, many individuals also have allergies
to natural products, having never been exposed to something, one might
have a reaction for instance. Actually the stylists are probably drinking the
vodka behind the models back, simply using such as an excuse to smuggle
in a good buzz! :-) There are many tried and true applications and remedies
handed down through time, what will work will work. We have just become
used to reaching over and popping the cap to the shampoo bottle for the utter
convenience of it. When it comes right down to it, lifestyle most often dictates
the crown of glory on our heads. Be good to your mind, body and soul, and
your hair will thank you by looking good. As for guys begging and drooling
to lick your hair, never said anything was "wrong" with it, if fact, this is what
i said,  (Though making  him lick it off might prove to be just the beginning of
a nice shampoo and scalp massage surrender. And yeah, Dom's have hands
too, no reason They can't contribute to your happiness. Just convince Them
that it's the lastest in "mind" control. "i surrender, i surrender, oh yes, just a little lower and i'm sooooo totally yours!")

By the way, Santa fe is just up the road, Naturally!

chia* (the pet)  


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RE: Hair care for long hair...Hair maintenance - 7/18/2007 4:26:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

quote:

ORIGINAL: BBBTBW

I suppose it would depend on the type of hair you have.  I am in the process of going to a hair dresser to get my hair to grow out.  These are the things she has recommended.

2000 iu of Vitamin E per day (internal)
Vitamin E Gel daily (external) (can be obtained at GNC)
Wash with Nioxin Shampoo and Condition with Nioxin Products  http://www.nioxin.com/
Take vitamins that stimulate hair growth  http://www.nouritress.com/

People don't seem to understand that everything that goes on with the body including hair growth has something to do with what is put into the body.

To prevent tangles without using creme rinse, use a leave in conditioner daily.  Something like "No More Tangles" or "Infusium 23"  I use the generic version of Infusium 23 and it works just fine.

Granted I am Black and have a whole set of my own issues with hair growth, the products I mentioned are crossover products that are generally good for all types of hair.


i do Black Hair! i do Black Hair! i love ALL Hair! It makes me happy!

chia* (the pet)


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