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RE: Israeli radio re: America - 7/25/2007 6:47:41 AM   
Real0ne


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that is one of those things where i saw the article saved it and put it in the archives.   Now i may have it wrong and then again i may not.  much like your global warming threads i know you have it wrong but you feel your scientist are better than mine and welcome to the world of "difference of opinion".

This was never intended to be racial, you can thank kitten for putting that label on it and now you add to the mix.  

It would seem people who make claims about critisism would be quite correct based on your post here, considering the request you made.

My question to kitten was if she felt that we should have looked into bushes background before he ran for office.  That was the main thrust of what i asked her several times.  Of course i expect most responsible citizens would feel we should have known.  She smartly avoided the question and i am sure will continue to avoid the question because she knows exactly what my point is.  i am not jewish and even "I" want to know because i do not want those kinds of people as a janitor much less in office of this country.  Then it goes without saying that we should know who controls the media as well since most americans know the news is filterd and cleaned prior to putting it up on the networks. 

It is a problem much discussed in many homes.  i would venture to say virtually all homes in America.  Of course you would not be saying to much if we were talking about arabs now would you?  After all they are the enemy so its ok to talk about them. right?

Your statements carry no more credibility than you wish to place on mine without some kind of reference cite to back it up.    i do have the article showing where the man was arrested handy, it is in my archives, but he was arrested for dissenting claiming that 6 million jews were NOT killed in the holocaust.  If i run across it i will be happy to post it. 

Meantime why are you trying to block this?  Why do you infer my question to you was racist? Why do you wish to block citicism?  Shall we change the subject to saudis now (in which you have NEVER pulled the race card in any discussion i have read or yours to date?)

when posting specific names of the owners in the industry i am accused of being a name poster for shame, and using the term generically then its to broad and racial.   Seems like your gang has the candle burning from both sides so i guess everyone better just shut up about anything to do with it because the only thing what will not come under the racism card is silence.  

i think the real problem here is how does one discuss anythign along these lines that will satisfy the "supposedly" and rest assuredly "agendaless" politically correct?  or shall i say those who push for it above all else.

if i had my own race or culture and myself all my buddies owned or have a controlling share or were managers and editors of the media that gets dumped on 300 million people and it was filtered like it is you would NEVER point the finger at the major players or owners and or operators would you?  you would brush the whole problem under the table in the name of political correctness as you want here.  you would never ask yourself the question if i had a possible agenda and then start comparing the the things that are filtered to who is on control.   you would never do that would you?  it might be politically incorrect.

you have made your case about germany and no where have you shown it to be founded in anything beyond your opinion. 

lam i am really tired of having to get my news from sites everywhere in the world but the us oa.  did it ever occur to you that just MAYBE that is the threust of my point or are you more concerned with censorship? 

no where have i racially bashed anyone and i was accused of it where i have not even made a comment on any of this but between you and kitten i am fast forming a few.



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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

How are the German laws against denying the Holocaust--which you've misrepresented, by the way--the same thing as shielding Jews from criticism?  It's possible to criticize Jews without denying the Holocaust.  If there were a German law that said something like "If you criticize a Jew, you'll go to jail," then you might have a point.  But there is no such German law.  All this stuff exists in your head.

Mods, really, hasn't this gone on long enough?  There is no law against anti-Semitism in America, but how and when did Collarme become the place to discuss crackpot racial theories?  This is asinine.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

I stopped reading right there.  If you believe Jews are "routinely shielded from criticism," you're in your own reality, and I can't converse with someone who doesn't live in the same world that I do.

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

That is to say that Jews are routinely shielded from criticism, or that criticism never gets out. Why is that ?



i dont want to bud into a difference between you and terminator, but what would you call gernamy making a law that says no one can contest the jewish death toll from ww2?



< Message edited by Real0ne -- 7/25/2007 7:26:12 AM >


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RE: Israeli radio re: America - 7/25/2007 7:37:42 AM   
Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
Maybe you are right, maybe certain subjects should be taboo on this site.

Who all is for that ?

T


certain subjects are taboo and they are listed in the tos.  none of which i would dispute.

Its not the subject so much as how certain people wish to paint it.  In this case painting it in a manner such that incites someone to turn their brains off.

The problem of course is if you want to make that subject taboo then where does it end?  
We better not talk about arabs now and iraqi war...  ooops did i mention iraqi?

It seems the term "racial" is all to quickly forgotten when its the other race.

If that were to be the case then we should not talk about any race, i mean after all to say arabs flew planes into the wtc is racial slamming according to their logic.



< Message edited by Real0ne -- 7/25/2007 7:47:14 AM >


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Democracy; The 'People' voted on 'which' amendment?

Yesterdays tinfoil is today's reality!

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RE: Israeli radio re: America - 7/25/2007 8:24:11 AM   
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R.O.,
Give up my friend - you can't prove a negative, especially when the only validation that some people have to rationalize where they are, is pointing out how prosecuted they were/are as a "race". In the case of Israel and the Jewish people, they are not a unique "race", but identify as one when its convenient. Fighting an accusation of prejudice or bigotry is akin to getting asked the question; "when did you stop beating your wife." The accusation in the question provides no answer which gets you off the hook, no matter how  many trees you buy.

Keep digging - but don't bother addressing challenges that only serve to distract from the original point.

Regarding the OP, I still say, what a man said in 2001 who is now in a coma is not relevant to 2007, and is not to be feared. Considering the changing landscape of the middle east, I don't believe it wise for a country to act upon a comment from a leader current in a coma, and doubt his words are a matter of current policy.

Sorry to digress from the accusation and rebuttal of bigotry and go back to your OP.

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RE: Israeli radio re: America - 7/25/2007 8:31:00 AM   
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Fighting an accusation of prejudice or bigotry is akin to getting asked the question; "when did you stop beating your wife."


It is a lot easier to fight, if one isn't on record saying things that are patently prejudiced against a specific group of people, and supporting those things with material from documented hate groups. 

Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.

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RE: Israeli radio re: America - 7/25/2007 8:09:24 PM   
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Define "Docuemted hate grous" for us, oh PLEASE DO.

Get on that fucking throne, that is where everybody in the world will be throwing.

Come on, tell us, WHO decides who are hate groups ?

T

My last post on this thread. I can't stand it anymore, to Real the Jews won, to me I won. See you somewhere else on the site. Anyone who doesn't like me for my views is invited to conveniently block me, then I can get the message out to the world and you will not see it, and therefore will not interfere. Ignorance is bliss.

T

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RE: Israeli radio re: America - 7/26/2007 6:18:23 AM   
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Last I checked, law enforcement decided who was a hate group.

Or are you seriously claiming now that WCOTC etc. are just misunderstood, like you?

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RE: Israeli radio re: America - 7/26/2007 6:20:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Define "Docuemted hate grous" for us, oh PLEASE DO.

Get on that fucking throne, that is where everybody in the world will be throwing.

Come on, tell us, WHO decides who are hate groups ?

T

My last post on this thread. I can't stand it anymore, to Real the Jews won, to me I won. See you somewhere else on the site. Anyone who doesn't like me for my views is invited to conveniently block me, then I can get the message out to the world and you will not see it, and therefore will not interfere. Ignorance is bliss.

T


Fancy a stint at a termination camp?

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RE: Israeli radio re: America - 7/28/2007 12:54:34 AM   
Real0ne


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

quote:

Fighting an accusation of prejudice or bigotry is akin to getting asked the question; "when did you stop beating your wife."


It is a lot easier to fight, if one isn't on record saying things that are patently prejudiced against a specific group of people, and supporting those things with material from documented hate groups. 

Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.


There is a little thingie in the upper right hand corner that you can use to quote and back up this fabricated bullshit.  

Fact is: you can not quote it because it does not exist.

However i will be happy to quote the occassions where people pointed out your patent inability to understand what you read.  

enjoy sleeping with your dogs


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Democracy; The 'People' voted on 'which' amendment?

Yesterdays tinfoil is today's reality!

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RE: Israeli radio re: America - 7/28/2007 7:43:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

Im a historian, kittenSol.  People who dont remember their history are doomed to repeat it.

Sinergy


Does this mean I get to fly a Spitfire? I am so trying to forget the Battle of Britain for this reason.

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