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Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 4:30:39 PM

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How many people here are old fashioned and believe a wife should obey her husband, and he should provide for and protect her? Who here feels that a woman should know her place?

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RE: Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 4:31:59 PM

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The world is a better place when woman strickly obey their man

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RE: Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 4:32:57 PM

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RE: Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 4:33:16 PM

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How many people here are old fashioned and believe a wife should obey her husband, and he should provide for and protect her?

If that is the relationship they want.

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Who here feels that a woman should know her place?

Oh a woman should! No doubt about it! And her place is wherever she wants it to be, be it the top circles of Wall Street or under the collar and direction of her owner.

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RE: Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 4:33:17 PM

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Who here feels that a woman should know her place?

Me. It's standing above him! :)

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RE: Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 4:35:07 PM

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It's obvious you do... I only hope you find a suitably old-fashioned bird to suit your need to nurture. Hopefully she'll die before you do, otherwise how will she look after herself?

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RE: Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 4:35:50 PM

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I always feel my place should be lying on my back, arms restrained over my head with someone between my legs, starting to.....

that was what you meant, right?

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RE: Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 4:38:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: LeggsMan

How many people here are old fashioned and believe a wife should obey her husband, and he should provide for and protect her?

*raises hand*

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Who here feels that a woman should know her place?

That all depends on what you mean by it...
I'm very in favor of people being self aware about their strengths, weaknesses, where they're at and where they're going...as much as can be known.

Edited to add: Or what she said! *points to SexyRed*

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RE: Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 4:46:25 PM

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Who is to say a submissive male cant provide for and protect his woman ?

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RE: Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 4:52:00 PM

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Not me! For that matter, I've usually been better able to protect the men in my life than vice versa. lol

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RE: Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 4:54:12 PM

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Hello,

Not all men are happy being in charge. Not all women are happy being controlled. To say that one gender should automatically obey the other in a personal relationship isn't always realistic. Not all men are qualified to lead. Leadership should fall to the person most qualified and who makes the best decisions for both parties.

As for protection.....protection against what? Is the man of the house going to keep me safe from drunk drivers? IRS audits? Traffic tickets? Cancer? Nope - didn't think so. The whole protection thing is very romantic - and totally unrealistic.

As for a "women's place" - because women, like men, are individuals, their "place" is where they feel most comfortable in society. It's not up to someone else to arbitrarily dictate that to them because of their gender.

That's how I see it anyway,

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RE: Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 5:13:42 PM

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This has become an interesting discussion. Many good points. I was just raised old fashioned, I guess. I want to love and guide a woman, assist her in the best decisions possible for her, as he submits and obeys to her husband in love as he guides her and commands her in love as well.

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RE: Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 5:18:29 PM

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Fantastic points.

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RE: Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 5:26:13 PM

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and, OP, what give you credibility to be such a person to ensure we poor lil ol gals are safe in the hands of big ol brutal you? What credentials do you have to prove you can ensure we little ladies make the best barefoot and preggars decisions? *of course said in my very best Scarlet accent*

I do believe I should be in my place. My place is head of my household with my husband's place right beside. Little happens here without my hand in the mixing bowl.

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RE: Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 5:29:23 PM

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I don't see him posting in absolutes, just asking the question of who tends to believe along the lines he does. It seems poorly phrased but it doesn't feel like it was meant as his being the only way and applicable to all.

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RE: Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 5:30:07 PM

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No way I could prove anything of course without really knowing me, meeting my friends, seeing my family, talking to exes...

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RE: Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 5:40:54 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LeggsMan

This has become an interesting discussion. Many good points. I was just raised old fashioned, I guess. I want to love and guide a woman, assist her in the best decisions possible for her, as he submits and obeys to her husband in love as he guides her and commands her in love as well.

Which is wonderful and you will make a perfect match for an old-fashioned woman who wants that sort of thing. That's actually the kind of relationship I enjoy - I just also know that not all women and not all men are suited for it and what best fulfills them will be very different.

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RE: Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 6:11:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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ORIGINAL: LeggsMan

How many people here are old fashioned and believe a wife should obey her husband, and he should provide for and protect her?

If that is the relationship they want.

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Who here feels that a woman should know her place?

Oh a woman should! No doubt about it! And her place is wherever she wants it to be, be it the top circles of Wall Street or under the collar and direction of her owner.

Or both

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RE: Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 6:15:19 PM

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Oh a woman should! No doubt about it! And her place is wherever she wants it to be, be it the top circles of Wall Street or under the collar and direction of her owner.

Or both

That too *Grins*

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RE: Old Fashioned - 7/24/2007 7:11:41 PM

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How many people here are old fashioned and believe a wife should obey her husband

I love that idea. However, I believe a woman should make sure her husband is a wise, loving man with her best interests at heart before she obeys him unquestioningly. I was married for eleven years to a self-destructive man who couldn't make wise decisions for himself let alone his wife. I obeyed him for way too long and saw a lot of pain and destruction in my own life because of that. Now, with my Master, I obey Him knowing that He has my best interests at heart often more than I do. Obedience is a beautiful thing if one is obeying a man she can thoroughly trust.

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he should provide for and protect her

Again - beautiful idea. Master and I work together to make our house a home and to provide the income that keeps it going. I don't feel comfortable being "provided for" and he's all for the extra $$$. Plus, He knows I'd die on the vine if I had to sit home all day. We don't have children, I can't knit, and there's only so much housework one can do

. As far as protecting me, He does all He can in the areas where He can have influence. But, as someone already noted, the real dangers come from things no one can protect us from (cancer, car accidents, etc.).

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Who here feels that a woman should know her place?

Again.....knowing my "place" is a very subjective thing. My place is by Master's side, doing a great job at work, and many other places. One can be an "old fashioned" woman - standing by her man and even being a "good" slave - and still work outside the home and contribute. I like your basic ideas but would caution you to have an open mind and realize one can be a good wife/partner without being kept at home, barefoot, and God forbid pregnant