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Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 1:39:29 PM

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On MySpace and Google Ron Paul's pages gets hit by younger people far more often than other candidates running for President.
Ron Paul talks about "old fashioned" ideas like getting back closer to the U.S. Constitution, enforcing our laws, getting us out of bad trade deals and a lot of other things that seem to appeal not only to younger people but to people like myself as well.
But, it looks like people in their teens, 20's and 30's are "spearheading" this movement.
And by doing that they're getting us older people (56) to take a look at Ron Paul that maybe we wouldn't have done so closely without them!
Caitlyn in this site is certainly responsable for me getting involved more in Ron Paul's campaign and donating money to it!
This seems to be some sort of "phenomenom".
I've never seen so many younger people involved in politics like this since John Kennedy!
And Ron Paul is 71 years old but he has a great deal of appeal to younger voters.
I can sense a kind of "disenchantment" among young people today with the current state of the nation. (And they're not alone!)
How would you explain this phenomenom?

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RE: Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 1:43:23 PM

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music groups like Greenday.

It has been my personal experience the younger generation isn't exactly as educated. I touched my first computer in the 2nd grade. The way we flew through school (I wasmuch younger than my siblings) I flew past them by the time I was in the 5th grade.
I always though...geez...I'm going to be an old geezer who is ignorant by the time I'm 30. Well, that isn't so. The younger generation at least the ones I have personally dealt with aren't getting the proper education.

Hey...the state of NE offered me a teaching position. To me that says it all. While my education may make me qualified, I certainly am not up to par to teach.

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RE: Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 1:48:24 PM

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I would imagine that most people on myspace would be younger people anyway. Of course the numbers would be skewed. Younger people ( 18 to 30) do not vote in large numbers, possibly because of disenchantment, more likely because of disinterest. I don't think that will change in this election.
As to whether younger people are smarter than older people? They aren't, they just think they are.

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RE: Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 1:58:46 PM

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quote:

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I would imagine that most people on myspace would be younger people anyway. Of course the numbers would be skewed. Younger people ( 18 to 30) do not vote in large numbers, possibly because of disenchantment, more likely because of disinterest. I don't think that will change in this election.
As to whether younger people are smarter than older people? They aren't, they just think they are.

E-String, I disagree with you there.
We aren't seeing this phenomenon (That's a tough word to spell correctly!) in the Clinton or Abbadabba campaigns or any of the other candidates campaigns.

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RE: Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 2:01:48 PM

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yes popeye...we are all smarter than you..get over it...heh...

and yea, I read ron pauls stuff too..

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RE: Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 2:11:15 PM

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yes popeye...we are all smarter than you..get over it...heh...

and yea, I read ron pauls stuff too..

SEE?

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RE: Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 2:15:08 PM

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but my Sir and all his friends are ron paul supporters too, and they are in their mid to late 40's......

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RE: Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 3:41:59 PM

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The more I learn about him the more I like him too.
He couldn't be more different than the BUMS who are in there now!

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RE: Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 4:28:24 PM

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Young people often think faster yet have less experience. But I strongly doubt the validity of using hits to a politician's website as a measure of intelligence.

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RE: Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 4:56:01 PM

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That old??? wow!! (lol)

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but my Sir and all his friends are ron paul supporters too, and they are in their mid to late 40's......

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RE: Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 5:03:38 PM

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I seriously doubt young people are smarter than older people ... and doubt even less that anyone could prove, or disprove it.

As you know, I have campaigned for Ron Paul in the past. To be quite honest, I think he belongs in Congress, fighting the good fight, but don't see him as a serious Presidental candidate.

His stand on Iraq bothers me ... an odd thing, considering I agree with most of what he says. He is correct in that we shouldn't have gone, and shouldn't be there now ... but it's a funny thing, when you look in Iraq, there we are, right fucking there.

Ron Paul is running afoul with Dennis Kucinich logic ... speak what people want to hear, and they will vote for you ... reality be damned.

I honestly had higher expectations ... once.

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RE: Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 5:14:57 PM

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Young people often think faster yet have less experience. But I strongly doubt the validity of using hits to a politician's website as a measure of intelligence.

My experience with a lot of older people is that while they possess greater experience and perhaps knowledge, the cohort which grew up in the post World War 2 era (my parents age) seem to seldom think things through to the logical conclusion.

One of the reasons for this seems to be a generation that came of age in the United States in a post-war boom and have a sense of entitlement. With this sense of being entitled to everything, is a lack of a sense (like their parents had) about what their life would be like in a state of existence such as living through a depression, living through a Real War, etc.

Just me, could be wrong, etc.

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RE: Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 5:23:17 PM

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Youth in general, have the grace of more ownership of their time and minds... college bound more than others.

Adults are (by and large) either busy in their gerbil-wheels that is 'modern' life for the lesser-classes (bread and circuses our placebo) or, languish contented in their (presumed safe) upper-class status.

Not an issue of 'smart' as much as ... only those of sufficient means can afford the luxury of lifting their eyes to ideals... only those with minimal needs sufficiently met, can afford principles.

Just my opinion/perspective

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RE: Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 5:38:22 PM

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I'm not exactly sure how you can claim that the older generation is very smart.. I mean they did manage to elect us into the mess that we are now didn't they?

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RE: Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 5:57:44 PM

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PROVING it would be just about impossible, but I think it's pretty clear that there has been a general increase in intelligence in the human population since the Stone Age, and I don't see any reason why that trend shouldn't be continuing even today. Much of it has to do with culture and upbringing, for sure--and yes, those things affect intelligence--but I'm sure much of it is genetic, too. Dumasses have a way of dying before they get a chance to reproduce.

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I seriously doubt young people are smarter than older people ... and doubt even less that anyone could prove, or disprove it.

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RE: Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 5:59:24 PM

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Dumasses have a way of dying before they get a chance to reproduce.

George Carlin calls this "the thinning of the herd" heh.

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RE: Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 6:03:26 PM

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I seriously doubt young people are smarter than older people ... and doubt even less that anyone could prove, or disprove it.

I do not know if this is proof of anything other than the fact that I can type.
The oldest culture on the planet is ruled by adolescents. They do not have a word for rape or murder. What that might indicate is anyones guess. They have never had a war. They do not have unwanted pregnancies and do not have either chemical or mechanical birth control but yet they fuck like bunnies. They have a limited gene pool but do not have birth defects. So maybe the young are smarter than the old...or maybe they have just been lucky for the past 6000 years.
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RE: Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 6:18:21 PM

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I'm not exactly sure how you can claim that the older generation is very smart.. I mean they did manage to elect us into the mess that we are now didn't they?

Jhin, true!
After Clinton left office I did a little experiment.
I asked people in public places (supermarkets, malls, etc) if they had voted for Clinton.
Funny thing, I must have asked well over 100 people and only 2 (Two) people would admit to voting for Clinton!
I suspect that after Bush leaves I'll get the same result.

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RE: Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 6:50:49 PM

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I feel that biology- how the mind works versus age- has a great deal to do with how things work.

Younger people are far more able to think freely and creatively. Their minds are still undeveloped, true, but they're also developing, which leaves them able to develope incredible levels of base-level thought. (At twenty-one years of age, I can confirm that, at least for me, that the true extent of this ability has come and gone in earlier years.)

Older people, whilenot able to think so freely, do have the old thought processes in place, many of which may be well-trained. They are able to analyze and act as they always have- though they have significantly greater difficulty thinking outside of those thought processes, almost always to the extent that they can not even realize when something deviates from their normal analyzation.

In my view, humans were truly meant to be mortal. We grow- learn- and do our best. After our formative years, in which we benifit from our elders' conclusions and our own free thought, we grow to have new abilities. In our elder years, we pass parts of those down, benifitting the new generation, along with their starting the cycle over, with their new contributions.

PS- To me, the mind developing- thinking in new ways- is what it means to actually "think" at the most creative level. As we get older, "creativity" becomes putting together old facts and methods in interesting, perhaps even grand, ways- but it's not so much new, just realizing things that the person already had the capacity for.

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RE: Are Younger People Smarter than Older People? - 7/27/2007 7:02:06 PM

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CuriousLord, that's interesting.
And I agree with you about the way "older" people's thought processes work.
I do function that way especially with old jokes and stories but I see humor in a lot of things that other people either don't or can't.
I.e. I'm always looking for "new material."

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