Termyn8or
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I am starting to think this is all a word game. Perhaps I'll start a thread in Polls..... "Do You Know The Difference Between An Engine And A Motor. There is a quantifiable difference, but it is not easily described.
So let's just do what the politically correct do, change the words. But to do this logically, we have to examine the facts. There can be no human race, there is no such thing. We are a species.
Speaking of words, the singular of species is species. Specie means something totally different. (it means money)
We humans cannot be a race, the human race cannot mate with other species. Therefore it is a species.
So then we have the Asians, etc., and they are not the same as everyone else. Noone in their right mind can deny that. But we Polacks can mate with them so therefore we must be the same species. But can we Polacks mate with a Rhesus monkey ? Can we mate with dogs and cats ? No.
So perhaps I am not really a racist or racialist, I guess I might be called an ethnicist. So we are not of a certain race we are of a certain ethnicity.
Or we could take the other route, I am a breedist.
Yes, no races just breeds of a species, like dogs.
You shouldn't get me started like this kittensol. Would you prefer the word breed or ethnicity ? Because the concept is real for sure. You just can't ignore facts, there are differences. If you ignore facts you are ________.
Now let's touch on another common misconception, that race is determined by territorial borders. For example my boss is Austrian. He is as German as they come, with all the psychological traits. All the peoples from that region have similar traits and customs as well as some physical features which are not quite as apparent.
If I ever have to answer a question about my race, say on a job application, I would answer Euro-American. Not that I fill out job applications, I just call and schedule the interview which usually includes the first day of work, but that's me.
Having been raised in my particular environment I had a chance to observe different "races", or breeds, or ethnicities, whatever word suits you. And there are twists.
One such twist is a family I know. Absolutely Hungarian, the Parents from Hungary, literally. The Father was white as a sheet, and the Mother black as coal but without any mongol features. Even so it is pretty obvious that her ancestors cam from somewhere else. Which brings us to the next question.
If all life evolved in Africa, how the hell did they get to Norway, Greenland, Alaska or America for that matter ? Is that to say that all the people in Africa who left made boats and sailed around the globe, leaving behind those without such ambitions ? Or was it the slave trade ?
Many people in this thread have brought up good points, and despite the slight infighting it has stayed on course fairly well. But my opinion is this, I don't need quotes and cites, I am giving you my opinion based on my life experience, in other words, I AM the cite or quote. As I explained to my buddy's son when he was in college, anyone can write anything, and having letters after your name does not mean you are right. How many times has the scientific and medical community reversed itself ?
I do appreciate the point of the OP, and I do care about other "races". I don't like what we are doing to the Iraqis, I don't like the censorship in Gernamy, I don't like the way the Chinese government treats the people, I don't like the extremely repressive laws imposed on the Singaporeans, but I can do niothing about it.
However, the statement that there is no such thing as race is inherently illogical. The concept is good, but the wording was bad. We are all the same species. I agree. In my older years I developed a cohesion to the human species. Even though different breeds are different than me, they are no less important in the grand scheme of things.
But I know if I am hanging out with an Asian, he is unlikely to accept a beer if I offer one. I know my Polack Grandfather mated with a German, and both families were pissed off about it.
I know there is a tendency of the powers that be to try to get people to assimilate, to forget their ethnicity. Of that I can find some real proof, but you will have to mail me to get it, it is too controversial for this board, and that is because the source is of a certain ethnicity. For that, I will find the cite, but it will never appear on this board. It was an article saying that "we should reduce immigration because people are not assimilating, they are sticking with their own group", something like that.
Perhaps I am too dangerous to participate here. I can see more of the big picture than some, and it ain't pretty. So I will shutup now.
T
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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 
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Chew on that idea for awhile... 
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