Owner59 -> RE: Bad News From Iraq: We Might Be Winning (8/4/2007 7:38:32 AM)
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ORIGINAL: SuzanneKneeling I do hope that people caught that that was not a news article, but an Opinion piece carefully sculpted to appear like news. Note the manipulative language (a neocon staple since this whole farce was dreamed up) twisting the stances of the Democrats quoted. They weren't in any way "appalled" by the possibility of victory. They were appalled that four years into this mistake we are still being lied to, as we have been at every single step of the process, and it's getting tiresome. While I'd like to take the bait and believe there is light at the end of the tunnel and that the Terrorist University the neocon lies have created for us in Iraq may revert to a place free of al Qaida, experience has taught me better. To the extent that the mainstream media is painting some glimmers of hope for things there, I just recall that this is the same state-controlled media that shoved all the faulty WMD "evidence" down our throats while ignoring or burying all the Hans Blixes and Scott Ritters who advised us otherwise. And the same media that in uncritically parrotting Bush's misleading bull has most Americans believing that the insurgency consists entirely of America-threatening terrorists when in fact careful and unbaised analyses show that it is 90-95% simply a civil war. The same useless horde of stenographers who complied dutifully with Bush in convincing 70% of the country that Saddam Hussein attacked us on 9/11. It's sad how few people here have learned anything from Vietnam. Not only was it the same kind of unwise and immoral intervention, but we went through the same process of continual public misinformation by the people responsible for it. The only difference seems to be that at least back then we had a few principled and courageous journalists who broke the truth to the country, while today we have only career-building Administration shills. Thanks Suzanne, That was right on target.The pro-war bush supporters, don`t see this as a battle against terrorism.Most of them know (now anyway)that invading Iraq was a mistake.For them,this is all an exercise in saving face for the neo-cons.And, our fighting boys are dying to save the pride of these scoundrels? Fuck that! Don`t wait for them to admit that,though.Their pride won`t let let them.They can`t sell this war on,"we need to fight ,so we neocons don`t look like complete assholes". Instead we get the"we`re fighting the terrorists"line of bull shit. These same neo-cons are still defending the Vietnam war.Does anyone believe they`ll own up to Iraq? The fact of how much damage they`ve done,the lives lost and to be lost,and the bankrupting of our nation,won`t allow them to take responsibility.It`s just to much to bare...............They will never take responsibility for what they got us into.Those lives and dollars are just line items,to be tallied and recorded.The trillion dollars (that we`re borrowing from China),ehh,that`s someone else's money,so it doesn`t matter,lol.Letting bin-laden get away?"Hey,shit happens".lol You`ll never see a "stand up" guy in this bunch.Swaggering chicken-hawk dick heads,every last one. Did anyone notice that the OP`s tread was not about how well things are in Iraq,but rather how Dems and other normal people, would be disappointed in hearing about the alleged "progress"?The subject wasn`t progress in Iraq,it was about making a bull shit point,here in America. This shows a serious lack of compassion and concern for our troops and personal. It shows sports fan type approach to politics,war and peace.This is way more serious than what team`s on top.This is about deadly serious matters,like the braking of our army,the destruction of thousands of families,and the destruction thousands more to come.This isn`t about silly things like republican or democrat pride.This shit transcends politics. I guess we`re going to have to wait another 16 months before we can stop this madness. To all the republicans and bush supporters..,misery accomplished. .
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