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beargonewild -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 6:54:54 AM)

[:)]   My thoughts are along the line that we individuals take what we want and works for us from the realm of BDSM and make it our own. If  this is the case, I can't see who BDSM can be classified as mainstream?




mnottertail -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 6:55:04 AM)

I still hear him sayin'

don't you give me no buicks
son you must take my word
if there's a god up in heaven
he's got a silver thunderbird
you can keep your el dorados
and them foreign cars absurd
me,  I wanna go down
in a silver thunderb rd-------------  






marieToo -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 7:09:48 AM)

When I saw the title of this thread scrolling, I thought it was a discussion about sperm. 

What a disappointment.  Im outta here.




slaveish -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 7:10:28 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

what the fuck is with the (o.O) shit alla time?




It looks to me like three different-sized nipples. Or one small nipple, one huge nipple and a mole in between. Drives me bat-shit. I find myself staring at it, and after awhile it really starts pissing me off. (I know, get a life.)

I had a econ prof one time that had the same effect on me. He had a very close-trimmed full beard. I fixated on it during one of his boring lectures and suddenly it looked amazingly like a vagina. A talking one.

Of course from then on I couldn't get it out of my head, and being forced to sit and listen to (and WATCH -- arrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!) the boring talking snatch did not do one little thing to improve my mood (or my grade). I hated that fucker. 




mnottertail -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 7:11:55 AM)

Are you the author of the vagina monologues?





Rover -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 7:28:19 AM)

Bob, you're a very intelligent guy and I'm sure you're a very nice guy.  But you've been your own worst enemy here (and I'll bet elsewhere as well).  My suggestion to you (not that I think you'll take it) is to leave the New Age religion for the religious forums, drop the sanctimonious holier than thou attitude, don't make more of your BDSM experience than it deserves, don't imply that your way is "better" for everyone (ie: the "one true way"), and for goodness sake don't bring drama from a goofy online chatroom filled with dungeons and dragons cast-offs to the boards as if it justifies a serious discussion.
 
Honestly, that's caring advice.  You can't keep blaming everyone else.  When you're blaming everyone, it's time to blame yourself.  Seriously, you have some things to work on and I'm sending my best wishes as you do so.
 
John




Cyntilating -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 7:57:55 AM)

Bob
 
swimming upstream??.....
 
ok, staying along that stream(no pun intended ) of thought:

Guess Im not a salmon...shrug.....just a rainbow trout content to swim and spawn in the pond of my life...sometimes I swim closer to the edge of the white waters, might venture up da creek now and again...sometimes I nap in the cooler still  waters provided by the limbs of an overhanging tree....I choose to not swim that far upstream...not in my nature........I respect, however, that it is is yours....doesnt make my life or your life  any better or worse than the other...we be who we be : )   and I personally, love being a rainbow trout : )
Salmons are nice too.......and sunfish....talapia...catfish....bass........
I ( the trout )  have never been to the big wide ocean...I hear there are many different types of fish there too.....someday perhaps Ill meet some....
point is, we may all be fish, but we live different experiences and in different waters....thats just symantics..and geography...
 
some people LOVE the taste of salmon, but not trout...okies...
and vicaversa......now tuna! theres a real treat I hear...
it's all about personal taste and preference...
not your cup of tea?  then pass me by ( wait did we switch from fish to tea??? )
 
My daddy ( the fisherman) use to like to say > "its not about the fish you catch, its about the fish story you get to tell " ...and he sure told some whoppers LOL
He was a gem of a man...
 
ps ..becareful...at the top of those rapids youre forging through is a usually a big ol' grizzly bar' ......grinz..
 
I wish you well in your streams of life..
 
Cyndi
( crackin myself up....just can't seem to resist a good metaphor...or bad one as the case may be )  




Driver1961 -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 7:58:55 AM)

He dips His lid:

Thanks Rover, Dungeons & Dragons chat?   I asked what his motivation was when first posting threads...  and sorry Bob but I simply can't be bothered to read where you stated that as although generally your threads started on promise- they bogged into circles that I envisaged. 

I'm certainly not always correct, love 'Oh Lord it's hard to be humble' and can be teased correctly as Sir Smuggy.

Warm regards to all inclluding Bob.   Driver1961.




ChainedExistence -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 8:42:55 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

Not for the first time do I find my line of thinking out of step with the mainstream bdsm community.

It is always interesting, after avoiding the community for a while, to test the waters and see how people respond.

Sadly, there is very little change in the past 15-20 years.

Some of us are born to walk alone, with as little to do with community as possible.

I'm one of them.

Best wishes to all in their search. Thanks for the input.

Bob, For the life of me, I don't see how you feel so out of step....
You state you are Pagan...plenty of people here are Pagan
You state you are poly...there's an entire forum section here for that
You state you live in a rural area...Lots of folks in your shoes on that
You are a pet owner...You will find many pet lovers here
While you don't directly say it, I get the impression you wouldn't like a brat for a sub--Lots of agreement with that point of view here as well
You've experienced loss- While there are the inevitable "fake deaths" here, there are also plenty of people who have really lost a cherished one and can empathize.
You also say in your journal that you have had some really nice letters and so on...Most people would appreciate that

So, where exactly are you out of step? There is a cross-section of everyone here- the hard-edged players that would put your hair on end, the bedroom experimenters that just want a little spice back, the poly families, the long distance lovers, the cross-dressers, age players, the one who are all out to their friends and family, and the shy ones you'd never pick out in a crowd, the ones who regularly play at clubs, and the ones who've never stepped foot in one...I could keep the list going, but you get the idea. While we all want to think we are unique, usually we are more like others than we realize.

Perhaps you are finding the search for your muse to be difficult and you are frustrated. But I ask you, shouldn't she be hard to find? I would think the very nature of what you seek demands a long drawn out search. I didn't pick my Dom up at the local dollar store. It took years and years for me to find someone who was just right for me, and even that had an adjusting period as we grew together. But I wouldn't take that time back for a million dollars. I value what I have with him because I know how very unique and special he is to me, and how difficult that was to come by. I may be reading you all wrong, but what I sense is frustration more than anything else....and you are definitely not alone in that.

Maybe you can elaborate on what you feel so out of step about? I think you might find it beneficial, and less subject to comments from those who only see your post as an "I'm better than all of you" rant. Then, if you truly can't find anyone who agrees with your point of view, then your assessment of the situation is spot-on. Until then, how do you really know that no one has the same line of thinking as you do?




Level -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 9:28:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

Not for the first time do I find my line of thinking out of step with the mainstream bdsm community.

It is always interesting, after avoiding the community for a while, to test the waters and see how people respond.

Sadly, there is very little change in the past 15-20 years.

Some of us are born to walk alone, with as little to do with community as possible.

I'm one of them.

Best wishes to all in their search. Thanks for the input.


I don't know, this doesn't sound terrible or anything, just someone that feels they don't fit in? I feel like that a lot.
 
But yeah, that o. O. thing........... [8|]




Mystique567 -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 9:45:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: slaveish

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

what the fuck is with the (o.O) shit alla time?




It looks to me like three different-sized nipples. Or one small nipple, one huge nipple and a mole in between. Drives me bat-shit. I find myself staring at it, and after awhile it really starts pissing me off. (I know, get a life.)

I had a econ prof one time that had the same effect on me. He had a very close-trimmed full beard. I fixated on it during one of his boring lectures and suddenly it looked amazingly like a vagina. A talking one.

Of course from then on I couldn't get it out of my head, and being forced to sit and listen to (and WATCH -- arrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!) the boring talking snatch did not do one little thing to improve my mood (or my grade). I hated that fucker. 


Thank you now every time I trim someones beard I am going to have the urge to stuff a tampax in their mouth!!!




Alumbrado -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 10:27:55 AM)

quote:

Bob, For the life of me, I don't see how you feel so out of step....
You state you are Pagan...plenty of people here are Pagan
You state you are poly...there's an entire forum section here for that
You state you live in a rural area...Lots of folks in your shoes on that
You are a pet owner...You will find many pet lovers here



He says that many in the mainstream are intolerant of the kink of others, and has shown that he is right at home with that bunch as well....

What's not to fit right in with?




BitaTruble -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 10:32:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

Not for the first time do I find my line of thinking out of step with the mainstream bdsm community.

It is always interesting, after avoiding the community for a while, to test the waters and see how people respond.

Sadly, there is very little change in the past 15-20 years.

Some of us are born to walk alone, with as little to do with community as possible.

I'm one of them.

Best wishes to all in their search. Thanks for the input.


Bob,

If you don't think what you have to say has value, then, yes, perhaps you should go and screw those of us who might actually learn something from you. In turn, if you don't believe you have anything left to learn, then tuck your tail, turn your back and be gone. I understand far too well how hard it is to find gems among the muck but as you sift through the debris, it does get easier.

My suggestions: first, utilize the block button freely and you will find in time that most of what you read has a great deal of value even if (actually, especially when) you don't agree with what's been said.

Second, be patient. You are giving up far too easily.

Third, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being an elitist and thinking you are better than anyone else. I certainly believe that most of the folks get things wrong most of the time, but as they don't live in my world, it's all good. No doubt most would think I'm wrong most of the time as well and by their criteria, they are right but I don't have to live in their world either. On the occasions, few and far between though they maybe, that we I do see eye to eye, it simple means that we have nothing to learn from one another as we already think and believe the same. I can have conversations with the voices in my own head if I want complete agreement and while I'm rather witty and fairly bright, such conversations, while entertaining, are hardly useful. ::chuckles::

See, I don't believe in "The Way" but I absolutely believe in "My Way" and in 'my' world, everything is 'my way'. I can hold that belief and still acknowledge that 'my' way is not "The" way and it allows me tolerance for the ways of others so we can converse and come to a meeting of the minds.. or, if necessary, agree to disagree. There's a bit of a trick to that in knowing when such should take place, but you get the hang of it as you practice communicating.

So, Bob, a few questions. Are you wise or do you pretend? Are you a student or have you mastered it all with nothing left to learn? Something brings you back to test these waters, to dip your toe again into the stream. I don't blame you if you get a nip from a shark as instinct says to pull your foot out before it's chewed off.. however, don't mistake a minnow for a shark and pull your foot out when it's not necessary.

Go or stay, the choice is yours, but don't put that responsibility onto the posters of these boards because there is much wisdom to be found here, and there is heat and humor, debate, understanding, compassion and crap. It is all here, Bob. Fill up your plate with the flavors and tastes you like best.. or leave the buffet hungry and saddened because you only looked at the first table and didn't see the whole other room in the back just filled with tables laden with delicious tidbits.

If you stay, then I look forward to learning from you and, perhaps, teaching you a few things as well. Who knows, we may even end up entertaining one another on occasion.

However, if it's hopeless, it's hopeless and I'm a realist if nothing else. So good luck on which ever path you choose.

Celeste




Estring -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 10:36:11 AM)

No need to leave. Beards are an accepted way of looking in the BDSM world now.




slaveish -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 11:49:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Are you the author of the vagina monologues?


Nope. I prefer my vaginal moments to be dialogues, although I wouldn't mind winning an Obie or two or starring in an HBO series based on my work.




slaveish -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 11:51:24 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mystique567
Thank you now every time I trim someones beard I am going to have the urge to stuff a tampax in their mouth!!!



I get this urge often, but it rarely has anything to do with facial hair.




VeryMercurial -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 12:05:34 PM)

I read your OP and I read your profile and your journal entries.
My condolences on the loss of your wife and your son.

You have been a member of this site for about 10 days.
Did you really expect to meet a suitable submissive instantly?
As far as the boards go, this is a free and open forum.
Anyone can post here if they follow the guidelines.

I read about 25% of the posts here and even less of the responses.

Maybe if you expect to get an instant relationship and find a group that acts and
thinks as you desire, this may not be the place for you.




MHOO314 -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 12:22:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

what the fuck is with the (o.O) shit alla time?

does it mean out of order or what?

Ron




That is the online symbol for looking at someone oddly, as with a raised eyebrow.




VeryMercurial -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 12:26:05 PM)

Thanks for explaining that MistressHathor.
It appears that he began posting with a huge chip on his shoulder, then.




Mystique567 -> RE: Swimming upstream, again (o.O) (8/4/2007 12:29:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: slaveish

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mystique567
Thank you now every time I trim someones beard I am going to have the urge to stuff a tampax in their mouth!!!



I get this urge often, but it rarely has anything to do with facial hair.


lmao, this made me laugh, thank you




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