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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/4/2007 10:35:04 PM

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The word " Proper " is used in Traditional Training and Value System and only to do with the cane not in refernce to the single lash which leaves a " Signature Marking " ...

i did not know that. Thanks! :O

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/4/2007 10:38:37 PM

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Can someone actually get (for fun, I mean) 300 cane-strikes... each with the degree if intensity as that video? If so, surely they couldn't walk the next day...

I'm just sayin...
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Sorry, i do not have the stomach to watch the video. i could never have watched what happened to my friend if i had not walked into it in total disbelief...

Color me chicken and with a weak stomach...

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/4/2007 10:39:01 PM

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I heard a traditional British caning was to hit exactly same spot every time.

I dont think I could take this... I have had the same spot targeted with other things like the brush while OTK and even then after a few I was wriggling to much for them to actually be able to hit the spot they where going for (LOL not done on perpose I couldnt help it) and that wasnt with the cane.. also since the cane is done usualy with someone bending over and there for doesnt have the accurasy or controll that OTK gives you would have to be an expert cansemen and marksmen to hit the same spot over and over again on a moveing target!!

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/4/2007 10:42:05 PM

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Then when the relationship ended, she always talked about how horribly abusive he was to do that to her.

I would never ever say the Dom that did that to me was abusive!!! I was totaly consenting to what was going on, though maybe a bit nieve and over my head he never did anything I wasnt ok with him doing, so there for no abuse.. I dont really get people that do this!

Aren't people weird, ms? I looked forward to the scene and play time with the one who whipped me; and yes, I even showed anybody who'd look all my cuts and welts. Lordy though...I played hell healing up; I stuck to everything and kept ripping things open again...but I would never say he was abusive to me.

I've decided perhaps such rough play isn't smart for someone who lives alone and can't do first aid on their own back...

PS.......damn...300 strikes like that boy got in the video? Did the girls even have meat left on their asses?

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/4/2007 10:42:39 PM

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The caning I had was top to bottom....was done to music...and I loved it!!!

Yours sounds awesome. Back in the day i did other scenes to music, and it was soooooo easy to just drift off into it...
but never with canes. i freakin' hate canes!

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/4/2007 10:46:18 PM

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I've decided perhaps such rough play isn't smart for someone who lives alone and can't do first aid on their own back...

First aid would be a problem but didn't it itch as it was healing? (THAT is what would have driven me mad...)

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/4/2007 10:48:27 PM

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I heard a traditional British caning was to hit exactly same spot every time.

I dont think I could take this...

Oh gods, me neither! i hate when it happens accidently!

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/4/2007 10:50:03 PM

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Then when the relationship ended, she always talked about how horribly abusive he was to do that to her.

I would never ever say the Dom that did that to me was abusive!!! I was totaly consenting to what was going on, though maybe a bit nieve and over my head he never did anything I wasnt ok with him doing, so there for no abuse.. I dont really get people that do this!

Aren't people weird, ms? I looked forward to the scene and play time with the one who whipped me; and yes, I even showed anybody who'd look all my cuts and welts. Lordy though...I played hell healing up; I stuck to everything and kept ripping things open again...but I would never say he was abusive to me.

I've decided perhaps such rough play isn't smart for someone who lives alone and can't do first aid on their own back...

PS.......damn...300 strikes like that boy got in the video? Did the girls even have meat left on their asses?

beverly

Actually He was carfull, I took about 300 each time with the cane alone, but there was rarely blood at all... maybe he wasnt hitting me as hard as he could though it sure felt like he was. My ass was very very sore for a very long time, but I loved the shock on peoples faces when I told them how much I took....

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/4/2007 10:50:56 PM

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LOL, that's why god made long-handled forks...and chopsticks...and rulers...and...
I'll tell you what, I loved it when it happened...went on to do more play with something else (and on a different part of my body) and ....remembered it for days and days. Yummmmm

Seriously though, I think everybody who'd not seen a 'proper' caning might wanna check out that video (I'm starting to sound like a used car salesman!)... I've never seen such a good example of how the flesh reacts to such treatment...blow, by blow, by blow...

<shudders>
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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/4/2007 11:04:59 PM

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I've never seen such a good example of how the flesh reacts to such treatment...blow, by blow, by blow...
<shudders>
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Can i hijack my own thread? This reminds me of something that happened years ago.

A Dom i knew had me join His 2 subs in a cane scene at a party. i was the newbie in the middle. On one side was a sub who could take a good beating, but on the other side was a really scary sub :) who didn't think it counted if she was not bleeding. i was scared to death the Dom would forget "where He was" when it was my turn.

The three of us were laying really close together on a bed. i could feel the other two move in reaction to the cane. There were a variety of canes being used. One particular cane made the first sub's flesh move in a way that freaked me out, and without thinking i hollered "Yellow!!!"

The whole party cracked up. For the longest time, if i was present when someone was explaining color codes to a newbie they would make it a point to say "You cannot code on another person's strike"... and then give me a faux stern look.

Yep, i have hated canes a long time. The reason i started this thread is because i have run up against a number of people who did not believe me when i said i had seen the caning i started the thread about. i am glad to know other people here know it is not only true, but some of you have experienced it! YIKES!!!

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/4/2007 11:53:11 PM

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There is a local woman here in Atlanta that did a great demonstration of a proper caning at a recent event. I did not get to catch the whole thing but afterwards in open play of course everyone was trying out canes. It was nothing like that video. The canes themselves were very specific instruments and there was a good bit of technique. Based on the way she did it I could see 144 strikes being meeted out in an appropriate manner. She adjusted her intensity based on the person - one fellow welted up quickly and so she stopped quicker but I would say he still got a good 50 strokes. And yes the welt and stroke markings or design was something Dom/mes were showing off that evening.

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 4:20:10 AM

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The Dom was worn out by the end of it...

Was he using a 20lb cane to hit her with?? I've never seen anyone worn out from giving a caning.
They don't take much umph to wield.

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 4:37:54 AM

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One British caning technique that I've read about in a couple of different places is referred to as "six of the best" - 5 horizontally spaced welts, then the sixth laid across at about a 45 degree angle across the first 5. Quite intriguing.

Mind you, while most of these "traditions" are not well documented enough to say for sure how authentic they are, they are nonetheless delightfully evil :-)

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 4:40:13 AM

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For those who participate in this topic matter,
(when you talk about "traditional")
...could you tell me if this kind of caning is done with the purpose of marking and artistry? the goal to cause opened skin or to apply enough controlled force to cause markings but not break the skin.. ?
or
Is the excitement of this more about the giving of pain and testing the receivers endurance?
" see how hard you can hit and see how much she can take?"
( to simplify it )

I am not familiar with caning personally and am asking because I know there is alot of artistry in many forms of bdsm.. example: rope bondage> for many the goal is about the artistry as well as the restraint...
and my experience ( altho limited and was with my first dominant/top ) with his whips was like that. He used it as a form of mental control as well as the physical but the emphasis was on mental. His goal was to NOT break the skin and thought of it as a skill to control the whip.

I can remember hours of holding the balloons for him as he would "practice" ....altho I think that was more about giving me a mental journey than it was practicing for him LOL...
and it worked !
For him it was about the finesse ( sp?) and a little extreme sensation on the snap or crack, all over my skin........but not about lashings and blood.

so, trying to find out if caning is similar...
thanks and I hope this made sense..

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 5:09:20 AM

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One British caning technique that I've read about in a couple of different places is referred to as "six of the best" - 5 horizontally spaced welts, then the sixth laid across at about a 45 degree angle across the first 5. Quite intriguing.

Mind you, while most of these "traditions" are not well documented enough to say for sure how authentic they are, they are nonetheless delightfully evil :-)

I have heard of this If im correct i think this is called "the gates of hell"

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 5:44:03 AM

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Google "Six of the Best: Canes and Caning" by Mitch Kessler.
Has some good info!

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 5:50:52 AM

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Yeah, don't you hate that shit? and you can't go back and have what you just typed there-------let it idle for a bit, and send again.

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 6:20:54 AM

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Google "Six of the Best: Canes and Caning" by Mitch Kessler.
Has some good info!

Thank you, catize! Here's the page: http://www.aswgt.com/content-canes&caning.html

I'm always saying 'everything is relative'...and it's the same with canes. As the author points out, canings can be sensual and they can be almost deadly...all depends on technique.

As far as wondering how a caning could possibly wear out the deliverer...here is the same caning event shown here, from two different angles:

I feel I must warn you though...the pics are NOT for the feint of heart... I cannot imagine someone taking 300 of THOSE and wonder if we weren't talking the mosre sensuous type just then?

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 7:07:47 AM

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Was he using a 20lb cane to hit her with?? I've never seen anyone worn out from giving a caning.
They don't take much umph to wield.

All i know is that the Dom (who was actually a very butch Domme) was too "spent" to continue with some scenes that had been previously arranged with others, while the hamburger-butt sub went on to play the rest of the night. It was part of the conversation about the event.

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 7:09:19 AM

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If you wish to find historic evidence of what a "Traditional Caneing" is actually about you need to find the old published books on Victorian Discipline or articles that discuss such books. Not some BDSM kinky sex book claiming it comes from some ancient house, but rather the books that were around that discussed the use of the cane, and birching. They are out there I have seen them but they are rare. I cannot tell you what they say because I didn't have the interest at the moment to actually read anything from them. But they were in a personal library of someone well known in the Leather Community.

I have read excerpts from what were reported to be juducial uses of Birching and Caneing, some of them from Victorian Era publications. But if I were to want to guaranty accuracy of the term Traditional I would think the original source material would be best.

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