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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 7:15:02 AM   
MasterNdorei


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i think there are some who enter into a scene with a cane for the art of it, and others who enter into it for enduance. Everyone sees something different depending upon the approch. i have seen some amazing marks from the more artisic approch, the "grill" marks, perfect little criss crosses all over the back, buttock, and thighs, to tic tac toe games played on subbie boys' backs. (X and triangle were the Dominant's IDs) It's all good in my book... so long as i am not the target. :)

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 7:20:43 AM   
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The post left by catize regarding the page: 

might be the kind of information about which you speak.  It really is quite well done. 
 
Thanks again catize, I've marked it as a favorite so I can share later.
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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 7:39:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually I was speaking much more about this type of article.

http://www.corpun.com/manx.htm

Where the research comes directly from magistrates records showing that the maximum in this jurisdiction was X for the birch bare bottomed from this date to this date along with the name of the Act that made it law. If the article does not Cite academicly the source I get suspicious of how much is accurately reported.

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 7:39:21 AM   
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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 7:56:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow, Archer, what a facinating site; thank you so much.
 
I went ahead and backed up a bit to:  http://www.corpun.com/index.htm
 
which is the index of articles for the website.  OMG...what a wealth of information there.  I would recommend reading 'About This Website' and of course the bio of the owner.
 
Good stuff, thanks again, Sir.
 
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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 7:57:32 AM   
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Edited to reduce repedative book link pages on the one site.

http://www.corpun.com/books1.htm








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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 8:38:15 AM   
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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 8:47:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterNdorei

A few years ago i watched a woman in a local dungeon receive what was called a "traditional" or "proper" caning. The meaning was 12 of the Dominant's best cane strikes, applied 12 times. (144 strokes total)

i am wondering how many others have seen it done, or have heard of it? And if so, were these the names used?

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Nothing about that was traditional -- not schoolhouse, and not judicial.

Historical and judicial documents, as well as folks who have experienced it themselves from a headmaster or mistress, or reports that come out of places such as Singapore that still use caning as a sentence all point to strikes less than 12 TOTAL.  Schoolhouse tradition was at most, "six of the best", sometimes with a "crossing of the gate" where the last strike is across the first 5 at an angle, effectively opening up the edges of the first five at an odd, severe angle -- much like an old farm gate with the angled support brace.  All are done full force with no warmup, and only the proscribed strokes, nothing more.

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 9:22:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterNdorei

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Was he using a 20lb cane to hit her with?? I've never seen anyone worn out from giving a caning.
They don't take much umph to wield.


All i know is that the Dom (who was actually a very butch Domme) was too "spent" to continue with some scenes that had been previously arranged with others, while the hamburger-butt sub went on to play the rest of the night. It was part of the conversation about the event.

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Wow. If the dom(me) was hitting someone hard enough to be tired from it, I'm surprised the submissive didn't end up in the emergancy room.

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 9:27:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I say its all about technique, balance getting into a good rhythm and staying there,using the body as a whole instead of just the arm...20 lbs seems excessive to me..bounty

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 9:34:40 AM   
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20# seems heavy to me too, BH.  Dang, isn't the whippy thing singing part of it's charm?
 
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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 9:40:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was being sarcastic about the cane being 20lbs.

I just can't imagine someone wearing themselves out just by giving a caning. I've seen all kinds of people give all sorts of canings and, even when they smack on the bottom or submissive a lot, they never seem to expend much energy. I mean, I've never seen anyone out of breath or anything.

I was trying to imagine what other factors could be coming into play, hence the (ultra silly) question about it being a 20lb cane.

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 9:48:21 AM   
MasterNdorei


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Status: offline 		i did not say the Dominant was out of breath. She was unable to continue with other prearranged scenes that night after giving the caning i mentioned.

i suppose there are a number of factors that could come into the equasion, beyond a 20 lb cane. ;)

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 9:51:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		The last caning I got came from two peices of inch thick rattan....about 4 feet long. Have no idea how much they weighed but damn they felt heavy on my ass. I lasted about 3 hours, no idea how many strikes, no one was counting. My rear end was black/blue/purple/brown/green/and fading to yellow for about 4 weeks. I have pictures actually but collarme wont approve them to be added....darn them...

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 10:02:20 AM   
Mystique567


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Status: offline 		Caning is one of the first things I had done when I first starting scening, I never counted but in the course of an evening I am pretty sure I took 144 all of varying degrees of intensity.

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 10:13:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: salilus

I was being sarcastic about the cane being 20lbs. [Ah...I was wonderin'.  Thanks]

I just can't imagine someone wearing themselves out just by giving a caning. I've seen all kinds of people give all sorts of canings and, even when they smack on the bottom or submissive a lot, they never seem to expend much energy. I mean, I've never seen anyone out of breath or anything.

I was trying to imagine what other factors could be coming into play, hence the (ultra silly) question about it being a 20lb cane. 


Have you watched any of the military canings posted here?  What about edgier players...who actually leave welts and cuts?  There is quite a bit of energy behind each swing.  Same with a whip or flogger; it can be quite a workout; which is why I like it so much.  WEG
 
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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 6:49:34 PM   
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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/5/2007 7:37:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: salilus

I was being sarcastic about the cane being 20lbs.

I just can't imagine someone wearing themselves out just by giving a caning. I've seen all kinds of people give all sorts of canings and, even when they smack on the bottom or submissive a lot, they never seem to expend much energy. I mean, I've never seen anyone out of breath or anything.

I was trying to imagine what other factors could be coming into play, hence the (ultra silly) question about it being a 20lb cane.


I have to agree with you... it very hard for me to imagine a person being worn out doing a caning.  I can only remember once in recent memory of counting the strikes .. well actually the bottom had to count.  It was her birthday strikes.  and each time she messed up she had to start over.  Well she messed up a few times and will what should of been only in the thirties will was some what higher in number.  Oh yeah.. her husband's birthday was being celebrated too.. and like the good girl denika is.. she took is 40 strikes too. All with a 1 inch rattan cane... ........ I don't think I even broke a sweat.  And as far as caning go... this one was alot of fun.. since I did alot of playing around with her and a few friends in the scene... but.. it was not one of my longer ones or intense ones either.

I love caning.. and I enjoy watching people do caning... But in the end.. it never matters to me how many strokes or if it looks pretty or not.. I care if they are having fun... if the energy is coming from their scene.  Are they creating energy?!  if not.. I am bored with them.. and they could be doing a thousand for all I care.

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/6/2007 9:11:30 AM   
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and will what should of been only in the thirties will was some what higher in number.  Oh yeah.. her husband's birthday was being celebrated too.. and like the good girl denika is.. she took is 40 strikes too.


Mmm yes I beleive it was 97  strikes by the end *s* My counting skills are much better now. You also managed to scare away all the people sitting at  the three tables closest to the  play area.  Rob thought it was hilarious...  And it was alot of fun.... Thank you :)  Watching you cane alandra tho is like watching art in motion.

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RE: A "Traditional" or "Proper" Caning - 8/6/2007 3:08:36 PM   
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Seems to me if they are all given at one time wouldnt they just say 144 cane strokes, unless you mean 12 different kind of strokes, but i dont think there are that many varieties of swinging a cane.

ms


Maybe they swing different canes in so many different ways each?


in reality, one should perfect ones stroke, just like a good golfer. for differing effect one changes the cane. perhaps heavier, swishier, thinner, whatever. with the perfect stroke, accuracy is maintained. its much better than some of those you see bashing away with a light cane, trying to hit harder.

and remember to put a lead (pronounced leed) into the cane so that surface strike is even.

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