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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer

ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck
Things were being moved and found in the oddest places. A stud finder was lost and then found in the glass cover of the ceiling light 12 feet up. Tiles restacked in geometric designs. No one was in the house when these things would occur and no one had access to get in to do them.

If no critters had access to the house either, and critters don't do geometric designs, that bit of phenomena sounds legit.

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I ripped the wallpaper out of the cedar lined closet and found a little heart scratched into one plank with initials. I resanded the cedar to freshen it and the carving disappeared. The housing inspector pointed it out again when he was checking things out during the rewiring.

I could definitely see a non supernatural explanation as a possibility there, specifically that you only sanded deep enough to fill the lines in with compacted wood dust to the point that they were temporarily concealed.  If you know you sanded significantly deeper than the carving, then it's worth noting.

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The eeriest of all though was the answering machine. I would call my answering machine to leave reminders for myself. Often during the play back there would be a woman humming a song in the background. No one else was in the house. No one could have gotten into the house and there was never anyone around humming that same song over and over around me when I would call to leave the messages.

Did you ever switch tapes and use some that was brand new, or use the same one every time?

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

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ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck

That sounds like a pretty awesome experience actually. I would say the wiped out feeling was energy being pulled from you as well.

Years ago in FL I lived in a 1920's bungalow that I was restoring. The floors in the bedroom were old cedar and a mess but still usable planks to refinish. I pulled them up (every other one) to work on and left the rest. Under one corner I found a box filled with love letters that were old and crumbling. Just beautifully written ones. Not long after that I had the strangest things start happening all over the house.

Things were being moved and found in the oddest places. A stud finder was lost and then found in the glass cover of the ceiling light 12 feet up. Tiles restacked in geometric designs. No one was in the house when these things would occur and no one had access to get in to do them.

I ripped the wallpaper out of the cedar lined closet and found a little heart scratched into one plank with initials. I resanded the cedar to freshen it and the carving disappeared. The housing inspector pointed it out again when he was checking things out during the rewiring.

The eeriest of all though was the answering machine. I would call my answering machine to leave reminders for myself. Often during the play back there would be a woman humming a song in the background. No one else was in the house. No one could have gotten into the house and there was never anyone around humming that same song over and over around me when I would call to leave the messages.

In most hauntings where there was a confirmed sound of a woman humming in the background.....It always seems she is humming to the the song "Doll Parts" by Courtney Love...."I wanna be the girl with the most cake."  Sends chills up my spine just thinking of it.

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ORIGINAL: MasterNdorei

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ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck

Years ago in FL I lived in a 1920's bungalow that I was restoring.

i have done spirit work for people who lived in their home for many years when "suddenly" activity began. Everytime it was just as (or after) restorations or additions began. There seems to be something upsetting to spirits about the structure being changed.

Your experience gives every indication of who shares the space with you. i like it when the physical residents can find a peaceful way to live with others, over actual "clearings".

Be Well~*
Master's dorei

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

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DarkWriter,
In the incident where you were attacked, did you feel any spirit contact at all before the attack? Did you sense any direct warning to leave before being attcked? Or was it completely without warning as you entered a new area?

Inquiring Minds want to know.  :)
Master's dorei

Yes!  A loud voice shouting "HEY! YOU'RE STEPPING ON MY RACCOON!!!!"  (sorry, couldn't resist)
 
I researched the cemetery on line yesterday.  It was created for those that worked on the Goodyear Farms and those who built the town of Litchfield Park, an are that was purchased and  contained the property that is now Litchfield Park.  About half there had died because of a big flu epidemic.  Seems it was in the early 60's.
 
I know I had one bout with a Asian flu in 1958 that just about took me out. 

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ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck
No critters with access and even if they did they don't hide things in the light well 12 foot up on the ceiling or do detailed geometric designs as you also stated.

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I did sand down past the markings and brush vacced the walls to remove any wood dust. So I know that it was sanded away. Although given the humidity of summer in FL wood swell vs shrinkage could also be a reasonable explanation.

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I even bought a new package of tapes all together so that it wasn't possibly a production goof. It didn't happen all the time, nor did it happen with every message recording just an occassional thing even with a different answering machine being used.

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Internittent mechanical error on the part of the machine producing a humming sound occurs to me as a possibility.  Thing is, the human brain is basically pre-equipped to see human faces and hear human voices even where there aren't any.  Your brain extrapolates for you and fills in data that just isn't there.  Basically if I thought I heard a voice on a recording, I would not accept that as evidence of any manifestation unless it was either subjected to machine driven analysis or it was lengthy, detailed and sufficiently clear that anyone listening to it could understand and agree on the words.  The human brain is an intrinsically flawed mechanism for judging whether or not something is a human voice or a human face, because of our hardwired neurobiological predisposition to hear and see in those patterns. 

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I'm all for ghost hunting with an open mind, but I mean a really open mind with no personal agenda either to prove or disprove anything.  In my experience, the vast majority of accounts and attempts I see are fundamentally flawed by bad science and wishful thinking - either of the "I just know there are ghosts and I can see them cuz I'm special" variety, or the "I just know there are not any ghosts so I'm going to debunk them" variety.  Both approaches are bad science.  Occam's Razor is a ghost hunter's friend, and it's better to examine every phenomena carefully and do your best to eliminate natural causes, of which there are a great many for most of the happenings that people like to jump on and wave about as proof of the supernatural without investigating too closely.  It's much more fun to believe that you saw a ghost, so most people are pretty highly motivated not to apply very much hard critical thinking to their experiences. 

Keeping an open mind is good, but there's this to remember. There is a description for a receptacle that sits beside a public path and is wide open for anything that anyone tosses in without regard to its quality.  It's called a garbage can. There is definitely such a thing as too open and too ready to accept without critical 

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ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck

That sounds like a pretty awesome experience actually. I would say the wiped out feeling was energy being pulled from you as well.

Years ago in FL I lived in a 1920's bungalow that I was restoring. The floors in the bedroom were old cedar and a mess but still usable planks to refinish. I pulled them up (every other one) to work on and left the rest. Under one corner I found a box filled with love letters that were old and crumbling. Just beautifully written ones. Not long after that I had the strangest things start happening all over the house.

Things were being moved and found in the oddest places. A stud finder was lost and then found in the glass cover of the ceiling light 12 feet up. Tiles restacked in geometric designs. No one was in the house when these things would occur and no one had access to get in to do them.

I ripped the wallpaper out of the cedar lined closet and found a little heart scratched into one plank with initials. I resanded the cedar to freshen it and the carving disappeared. The housing inspector pointed it out again when he was checking things out during the rewiring.

The eeriest of all though was the answering machine. I would call my answering machine to leave reminders for myself. Often during the play back there would be a woman humming a song in the background. No one else was in the house. No one could have gotten into the house and there was never anyone around humming that same song over and over around me when I would call to leave the messages.

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ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck
I'll give you this but it was a definite human voice and the same song over and over for 9 years. "We'll Meet Again" I had never heard the song before hearing it hummed throughout the years on my answering machines (that's plural. so explain mechanical problems with multiple machines of different makes and models). I didn't have any idea the name of the song until I heard it years later in a little club in New Orleans. When the band played it my companion said the color drained from my face. The song itself would coincide with the love letters themselves so to me it made a great deal of sense (World War II).

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With all due respect Najack...It never interested me to prove or disprove what occured. Nor do I care to now.

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I actually find it rather amusing that you're so intent on closing your mind to the possibilities

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ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck

I'm curious Lotus. When you said it was "dead" did you mean that you weren't feeling anything at all? Or you just weren't feeling any energy aside from feeling drained afterwards. Is this a high tourist area? Are there lots of people that visit there or were you pretty much alone in your visit? I ask because the energy drain may have been their attempt to manifest enough energy to interact.

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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer

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ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck
I'll give you this but it was a definite human voice and the same song over and over for 9 years. "We'll Meet Again" I had never heard the song before hearing it hummed throughout the years on my answering machines (that's plural. so explain mechanical problems with multiple machines of different makes and models). I didn't have any idea the name of the song until I heard it years later in a little club in New Orleans. When the band played it my companion said the color drained from my face. The song itself would coincide with the love letters themselves so to me it made a great deal of sense (World War II).

Now that's a much better incident report.

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With all due respect Najack...It never interested me to prove or disprove what occured. Nor do I care to now.

Why not?  It's interesting, and getting to the bottom of interesting phenomena has a lot of potential payoff.  But it's not possible to really get to the bottom of anything without investigating it thoroughly first and making sure you can rule out causes that are not interesting. 

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I actually find it rather amusing that you're so intent on closing your mind to the possibilities

Er, no.  What I'm interested in is getting to the bottom of possibly supernatural phenomena by doing the best job possible of ruling out non supernatural causes.  In short, I'm a ghost hunter. 

My comments at the end were general remarks on the field of ghost hunting, and were not directed at you at all.  I should have made them a separate post so that you did not feel they were aimed at you.  I am sorry if you felt that I was commenting on your personal state of mind; I was really not. 

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I'm curious Lotus. When you said it was "dead" did you mean that you weren't feeling anything at all? Or you just weren't feeling any energy aside from feeling drained afterwards. Is this a high tourist area? Are there lots of people that visit there or were you pretty much alone in your visit? I ask because the energy drain may have been their attempt to manifest enough energy to interact.

Things were just very still as if this place had been cut out of a fabric of time.  My husband was reading out the names out loud.  The thought that he probably shouldn't be doing that in case he "called someone up".  I just 'felt' absolutely nothing, as if everyone had moved on.
 
I was disappointed because there were very few unidentifiable headstones.  The majority of them were blank and I was feeling sad that their identity might have been forgotten. I wondered who cared for some of the graves that did have some flowers on them,  So I was going through feelings of making sure I was being respectful to empathy to concern to melancholy.

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C'mon, there have to be more ghost stories!

Has anyone felt the presence of someone they loved who was recently deceased?

Master's dorei

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ORIGINAL: MasterNdorei

C'mon, there have to be more ghost stories!

Has anyone felt the presence of someone they loved who was recently deceased?

Master's dorei

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I should have mentioned that there were close to 5OO 1x1in. and 2x2 in. tiles that had been arranged. Would an animal have that type of attention span or do a repetitive intricate pattern or would it be more of a simple one? I know raccoons are very inquisitive and intelligent but are they to that degree?

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I can't imagine an animal having accessed the house without leaving some droppings or other destruction as evidence as you mentioned with the birds.

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I should have mentioned that there were close to 5OO 1x1in. and 2x2 in. tiles that had been arranged. Would an animal have that type of attention span or do a repetitive intricate pattern or would it be more of a simple one? I know raccoons are very inquisitive and intelligent but are they to that degree?

No.  That's not any kind of animal.

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I can't imagine an animal having accessed the house without leaving some droppings or other destruction as evidence as you mentioned with the birds.

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Neither can I, which is why I said you should be able to rule out animal interference fairly easily by checking for the obvious signs.  Stealthy bird thieves are probably the hardest to detect since they don't always leave plops or feathers in the short time they may be darting in and grabbing your shinies, but eventually the odds tend to catch up to repeat offenders and they will leave those kinds of traces.  Plus you'll know there's a population of them in the area and generally see them around.  I do think it is very often worth working to investigate the "could this have been an animal or an insect" type of cause, but the work isn't usually that hard to do if you know what to look for.

  

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I don't think of a studfinder as a "shiny" although it was a very bright red in color along with black.  So perhaps attractive from that standpoint. I would think it would be too heavy for a bird to have carried as well.

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Meaning it would have had to have been a pretty damn big bird. It was just too unwieldly for that and I would imagine a bird big enough in size would have had difficulty with the small clearance between light fixture and ceiling for it to perch and drop it into the glass square without breaking or dislodging the glass itself. Wouldn't a stealth bird be rather small and quick?  

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I don't think of a studfinder as a "shiny" although it was a very bright red in color along with black.  So perhaps attractive from that standpoint. I would think it would be too heavy for a bird to have carried as well.

Naah, doesn't fit the profile of a bird carryoff if it's not light-reflective-shiny and small/lightweight.

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Meaning it would have had to have been a pretty damn big bird. It was just too unwieldly for that and I would imagine a bird big enough in size would have had difficulty with the small clearance between light fixture and ceiling for it to perch and drop it into the glass square without breaking or dislodging the glass itself. Wouldn't a stealth bird be rather small and quick?  

Not necessarily.  Ravens are large, smart, dextrous and infamous for stealing shiny stuff.  They are certainly hard to miss if you're anywhere nearby when they swoop down to do their thing.  They have a decent carrying capacity for their size as they are basically designed to pick up and fly away with stuff they scavenge for food, but I don't know if it would stretch to a stud finder.  Especially one that was not very shiny.