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Master training??? - 8/5/2007 2:09:21 PM   
cwytch


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i am virgin to this forum but here goes..i have a male friend who feels drawn to the lifestyle..he feels he is a natural dominate but does not have any direction or training..knowning that i am a slave with many years of experience he has asked me to help him learn..my question is..is this possible?? i dont know that a slave can train a Master without a great deal of issues getting in the way...also where would i direct him so that he may discover if he truely is called to be a dominant?? thank you
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RE: Master training??? - 8/5/2007 3:59:30 PM   
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he needs to find a forum such as this...ask questions and listen.  He needs to google munches and events local to his home town.  He needs to buy a book or two about the subject.

Yes of course you can help him.  It depends on how emotionally attached you become to each other.  There should be no reason you can't sit down with your friend and talk to him about what makes you tick as a sub and things that you have learned along the way that seem fairly common to most.

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RE: Master training??? - 8/5/2007 4:19:25 PM   
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Dominant.

And yes, it happens all the time.  SInce you have to form a relationship together, you're probably the BEST person to help him along.

Don't equate dominance with what you DO, but who you are and how you are motivated.

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RE: Master training??? - 8/5/2007 6:45:04 PM   
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The ethical decission you'll have to face and figure out is are you going to help him become "the best dominant for you" or are you going to help him become the best dominant he can become.
But there are certainly alot of things that a Master learns from their slave.

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RE: Master training??? - 8/5/2007 7:11:02 PM   
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When I first started Phoenix had played a bit. She had several prior boyfriends who knew her interest and used it to make demands without taking on the responsibility. I was a bit different.

Month 1-2. I read everything I could on safety.

Month 3 I spent every evening in either a Barnes and Nobles or a Boarders bookstore. Not being the most rich person they let me read the book for free in a nice environment. I spent looking at general things. I also spent a lot of time looking at the BDSM checklist that I had found and had Phoenix fill out. That gave me some direction. Personally I loved “The Complete Topping Book”, and “The Complete Bottoming Book” the best. Then I looked into safety.

Month 4 I spent looking into more seriously the things that she enjoyed, and found online resources, as well as the local group(s) here, and began going to meetings. I saw some nice scenes. Learned a lot. Asked a lot of questions. Got some new ideas. Learned as much about safe play as possible.

Month 5+ Learned from the web. Learned from anything I could read. Most of all I learned from my sub.

I am a partner in a relationship that should bring her as much satisfaction as it does me. I learn what she desires, and most importantly why. She learns what I desire. We talk openly about what she feels about everything, and I listen. Now I have tailored my style to her, but I have not given up anything of me from doing it. We both bent a little, but not much bending was needed. We found each other because we were a good fit, and we were willing to fail. We have been through four versions of scrapping the way we did things and trying again. I now know a hundred times about things than she does, and she has been doing BDSM play for 10 years. With me it is the first time she is not just playing anymore.

There is ALWAYS so much to learn. I don’t know the first thing about a ton of stuff. So you have to be willing to keep at it until you no longer want to practice the lifestyle. I spend hours every day thinking or reading or finding boards and asking questions, or discussing the lifestyle. I do it because my lady is worth every moment. I say that because you have to know the reason you want to do it. She has brought out a side of me I had hidden. If I didn’t have a reason to keep learning, I am not sure I would. So I think first thing to find out is what is the drive behind you. What type of Top/Dom/Master do you want to be? Then just learn from everywhere. And before you play be sure you know your responsibility.

~Ki

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RE: Master training??? - 8/6/2007 5:20:20 AM   
cwytch


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I appreciate your candor and honesty..thank you all very much

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RE: Master training??? - 8/6/2007 5:30:21 AM   
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In large part, I think it will depend on what role your D/s dynamic takes.  If D/s is 'an' aspect of an otherwise healthy, enjoyable relationship already existing, I think you're just fine.  If you're hoping he'll become the 'perfect Dom' before you're willing to allow more than just a casual friendship, you're probably going to be dissappointed.

Instead of focusing on teaching him 'how to be a Dom' you're better off just showing him the places you enjoy and things you like.  If it clicks with him, great.  Show him this site, take him to munches, and let him learn on his own.  Either he'll naturally get a handle on things in the coming six months or so, or he won't. 

Good luck,

Stephan


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RE: Master training??? - 8/6/2007 8:48:41 AM   
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This is one of the few ocassions where I think "topping from below" is actually a good thing.  I think it is a great way for a new Dom or Top to get hands on experience.  Of course if either of you wants to be more than just friends, it will fail miserably as emotions will interfere.  The thing to keep in mind is that you won't really be the slave and he really won't be the Master.  Instead, you will be the teacher and he the student with you playing the part of a slave and he will be playing the part of the Master.  Any mood or connection will of course be spoiled every time you instruct or correct him, but it is a learning situation not a hot date.

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RE: Master training??? - 8/6/2007 9:36:24 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cwytch

i am virgin to this forum but here goes..i have a male friend who feels drawn to the lifestyle..he feels he is a natural dominate but does not have any direction or training..knowning that i am a slave with many years of experience he has asked me to help him learn..my question is..is this possible?? i dont know that a slave can train a Master without a great deal of issues getting in the way...also where would i direct him so that he may discover if he truely is called to be a dominant?? thank you


You are his friend, and you have experience.  Be his friend, share your experience, and whatever wisdom you have acquired along the way.

Show him where the path lies, and walk it with him...as a friend certainly, and as more if that is what you both desire.

The question is not if you can teach him, but, as a friend, how can you not teach him?

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RE: Master training??? - 8/6/2007 10:16:59 AM   
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A new dominant can learn a lot from an experienced slave. I would advise your friend to start attending the local munches. He should start brothering up with some established masters. He may even find a master who is willing to mentor him. I'd warn him  to avoid any online forum or message board advice until he develops his own dominant personalty.

Kane

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RE: Master training??? - 8/7/2007 8:41:23 AM   
ProlificNeeds


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If he associates with being dominant, you don't really have to train him, just help him discover himself, and get him out there seeing what the lifestyle involves. He needs to figure out what's right for him, minus labels or preconceptions, the only way to do that is sample the entire buffet, and pick what he likes.

If it's simply skill training, workshops and other Dominants or practiced tops can probably share sources for learning skillsets he's interested in.

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