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beargonewild -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 4:37:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lucyboy I must say you let yourselves down. The moderator who moved my thread is obviosly afraid to answer my request for a reason for that nutty illogical dicision. and the reaction of the rest says that my presence as a sub with a mind of his own is a disrupting one. Any Domme who fears reality and spirit is not worthy of being a Domme. Excuse me but you have not cornered the market on being a sub with mind of their own. May I suggest that you directly ask one of the MODS if they are afraid to answer your question. It may be helpful in the future to refrain from making blanket statements about Dommes. Comments like that will guarantee you getting the replies such as on this posting. Exactly in the same manner when a Dom/Domme will get chewed out for making a blanket statement about whiney ass subs. This is a very diverse community and not all fit under neat and tidy packages. As stated time and time again, weed through what isn't suitable for you and keep looking until the one who is will appear and claimed you as their own.

stef -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 4:40:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lucyboy All I have said is that non pro Dommes should not ask or demand cash from people they don't know. I think if that's all you said, this thread wouldn't have turned into such a goatfuck. People make demands all the time. No one is forcing you, or anyone else, to agree to those demands. Let it go and move on. quote: That says allot about her and not much about me. I think you're saying more about yourself than you know, and not in a good way. Think about it. ~stef

earthycouple -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 4:45:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: lucyboy All I have said is that non pro Dommes should not ask or demand cash from people they don't know. I think if that's all you said, this thread wouldn't have turned into such a goatfuck. People make demands all the time. No one is forcing you, or anyone else, to agree to those demands. Let it go and move on. quote: That says allot about her and not much about me. I think you're saying more about yourself than you know, and not in a good way. Think about it. ~stef lmao..."goatfuck" that's the most hilarious thing I've heard all week...thanks so much, stef!

ThePrincessBych -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 5:02:58 PM)
oh my gosh...why continue to go on and on and on about it? First of all what DOMME has sex with her subs? Perhaps it happens...but not in my 10 yrs of lifestyle OR Pro Domme experience. IF a Domme does have sex...its not for me to judge, but that is sooo not my style. I attend local munches and am very close friends with other Domina's and none of them have sex with their subs either. IT truely sounds to me like you are seeking a love interest who is just kinky and into T-girls like yourself, and perhaps if that is the case, you are in the wrong place. Maybe you should try a dating site? just a thought. Another reason some people may not state in their profiles that they are seeking tribute for play, or compensation is because Collarme's rule say NOT to do that. So maybe they are waiting until they are contacted and then they let you know. IF that is the case and they let you know before any feelings have developed then what is the big deal??? They are still being honest with you, and all you have to do is MOVE ON. its really VERY SIMPLE...just consider it not what you are looking for and move on....but to call a Pro a "gold digger" is funny because I dont know 1 pro who would "dig" for anything... they prefer it be handed over on a silver platter.....[:D]

ThePrincessBych -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 5:05:26 PM)
OMG GOATFUCK...thats even better than Clusterfuck...I will be stealing your word and using it frequently LMAO!

LDRandAstarte -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 5:16:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: earthycouple quote: ORIGINAL: lucyboy Wow A mind reader, you are the most amazing phsychotherapist ever. You have never met me but you know my mental state and motive lol lol. Paranoid or what??? You have assumed I'm out to get you just because I don't like (non pro) women demanding cash!! If that makes me a git with an evil agenda that makes you a paranoid person with no sense of perspective. I fear that you are not the Domme you think you are, more the little mouse afraid of the sub with a mind of his own. You really are letting the side down, you insult me without knowing me, you shoot down my thread without a decent reason and now you back up a bad moderator desicion without anything more than my criticism of a business woman. Please you're behahvior is embarasing. It shows desperation. I have done nothing more than politely criticise bad behavior but you have seen it as a threat. I think that says alot about you and not much about me. I hope you can get over it. What gives you the right to judge me??? I dont judge anyone unless they are money grabbers. I think that is fair....Don't you???? Peace and my point is made. Thank you OP. Actually, I think his point is made very well here!!!

lucyboy -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 5:24:32 PM)
So from you're replies I can gather you have no argument against me other than. ........... "I have got above my station and criticised a Domme when I'm a male sub." Which is by default WRONG. I think that is a form of estrogen alley, a form of femme bullying that is not atractive, logical or respectable in the slightest. I'm sexually sub not a 24/7 yes Miss no Miss boy. Is that my crime?? Or can you give me a better reason for you're dislike of me??? So I'm not suposed to criticise money grabbers????? That makes me wrong, a dodgepot with an axe to grind... Oh dear. Can you not see the flaw in you're reasoning.??? Infact you seem to be saying that the woman who demanded cash was not a money grabber but a blameless human being doing what is right and it is me who is wrong by defualt. By you're logic, all I need to see is the status quo!!!!, I just need to know my place, then shut my trap and leave things as they are lol lol You are acting like insecure bullies. Please tell me what is wrong with criticising a non pro Dommes who asks for cash before there has even been a meet??? My criticism of their bad behavior makes me wrong in you're eyes, why??? Just because I had the audacity to speak my mind. (and politely speak my mind) You can agree with eachother all you like, you are still acting like insecure bullies without logic or reality on you're side...

LDRandAstarte -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 5:26:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThePrincessBych oh my gosh...why continue to go on and on and on about it? First of all what DOMME has sex with her subs? Perhaps it happens...but not in my 10 yrs of lifestyle OR Pro Domme experience. IF a Domme does have sex...its not for me to judge, but that is sooo not my style. I attend local munches and am very close friends with other Domina's and none of them have sex with their subs either. IT truely sounds to me like you are seeking a love interest who is just kinky and into T-girls like yourself, and perhaps if that is the case, you are in the wrong place. Maybe you should try a dating site? just a thought. Another reason some people may not state in their profiles that they are seeking tribute for play, or compensation is because Collarme's rule say NOT to do that. So maybe they are waiting until they are contacted and then they let you know. IF that is the case and they let you know before any feelings have developed then what is the big deal??? They are still being honest with you, and all you have to do is MOVE ON. its really VERY SIMPLE...just consider it not what you are looking for and move on....but to call a Pro a "gold digger" is funny because I dont know 1 pro who would "dig" for anything... they prefer it be handed over on a silver platter.....[:D] Well! between Astarte and Myself We have about 35 years in the lifestyle. And We personally know many Domme's pro and/or not who have sex with thier subs. Maybe you should get out more!

earthycouple -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 5:26:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lucyboy So from you're replies I can gather you have no argument against me other than. ........... "I have got above my station and criticised a Domme when I'm a male sub." Which is by default WRONG. I think that is a form of estrogen alley, a form of femme bullying that is not atractive, logical or respectable in the slightest. I'm sexually sub not a 24/7 yes Miss no Miss boy. Is that my crime?? Or can you give me a better reason for you're dislike of me??? So I'm not suposed to criticise money grabbers????? That makes me wrong, a dodgepot with an axe to grind... Oh dear. Can you not see the flaw in you're reasoning.??? Infact you seem to be saying that the woman who demanded cash was not a money grabber but a blameless human being doing what is right and it is me who is wrong by defualt. By you're logic, all I need to see is the status quo!!!!, I just need to know my place, then shut my trap and leave things as they are lol lol You are acting like insecure bullies. Please tell me what is wrong with criticising a non pro Dommes who asks for cash before there has even been a meet??? My criticism of their bad behavior makes me wrong in you're eyes, why??? Just because I had the audacity to speak my mind. (and politely speak my mind) You can agree with eachother all you like, you are still acting like insecure bullies without logic or reality on you're side... nope.

beargonewild -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 5:48:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lucyboy So from you're replies I can gather you have no argument against me other than. ........... "I have got above my station and criticised a Domme when I'm a male sub." Which is by default WRONG. wrong on this count. I think that is a form of estrogen alley, a form of femme bullying that is not atractive, logical or respectable in the slightest. Please note that not all responding are female. I'm sexually sub not a 24/7 yes Miss no Miss boy. Is that my crime?? Or can you give me a better reason for you're dislike of me??? some of us are also subs, some are claimed and some of us not. Being unclaimed or a 24/7 sub is not a crime in any books. sorry. So I'm not suposed to criticise money grabbers????? It's the fact of blanket statements which are cause for criticism, not becuase of one person criticising. That makes me wrong, a dodgepot with an axe to grind... Oh dear. Can you not see the flaw in you're reasoning.??? Infact you seem to be saying that the woman who demanded cash was not a money grabber but a blameless human being doing what is right and it is me who is wrong by defualt. neither is right nor either is wrong. By you're logic, all I need to see is the status quo!!!!, I just need to know my place, then shut my trap and leave things as they are lol lol No, we would like you to see clearly there are other sides to the issue. You are acting like insecure bullies. Please tell me what is wrong with criticising a non pro Dommes who asks for cash before there has even been a meet??? My criticism of their bad behavior makes me wrong in you're eyes, why??? Just because I had the audacity to speak my mind. (and politely speak my mind) You can agree with eachother all you like, you are still acting like insecure bullies without logic or reality on you're side... Nowhere has it been said that your are wrong for criticising pro Dommes. Nothing is wrong with speaking one's mind. It is in the manner of how it is done which is inappropiate. My logic is my own and earned through my own life experiences. I also want to thank you for pointing out my insecurities and if you have an hour or two, I am quite willing to reveal all my other faults, not a problem. I know my flaws and I also own evey single one.

lucyboy -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 5:51:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LDRandAstarte quote: ORIGINAL: ThePrincessBych oh my gosh...why continue to go on and on and on about it? First of all what DOMME has sex with her subs? Perhaps it happens...but not in my 10 yrs of lifestyle OR Pro Domme experience. IF a Domme does have sex...its not for me to judge, but that is sooo not my style. I attend local munches and am very close friends with other Domina's and none of them have sex with their subs either. IT truely sounds to me like you are seeking a love interest who is just kinky and into T-girls like yourself, and perhaps if that is the case, you are in the wrong place. Maybe you should try a dating site? just a thought. Another reason some people may not state in their profiles that they are seeking tribute for play, or compensation is because Collarme's rule say NOT to do that. So maybe they are waiting until they are contacted and then they let you know. IF that is the case and they let you know before any feelings have developed then what is the big deal??? They are still being honest with you, and all you have to do is MOVE ON. its really VERY SIMPLE...just consider it not what you are looking for and move on....but to call a Pro a "gold digger" is funny because I dont know 1 pro who would "dig" for anything... they prefer it be handed over on a silver platter.....[:D] Well! between Astarte and Myself We have about 35 years in the lifestyle. And We personally know many Domme's pro and/or not who have sex with thier subs. Maybe you should get out more! Thanks LDR, I have been involved on the peripheries of the London bdsm scene for at least 8 years now and I have had more than one serious Domme lover. But I have come across this (in my opinion) prejudiced view that sub men are not worthy and I have criticised it openly. If someone writes me off because I'm sub I stand up for myself. (you wouldnt accept the same talk about gays or an ethnic minority, so I say NO Princess Biatch, you don't have enough experience to tell me if I'm worthy of sex or not....grow up). I'm not a cashcow or a sexual no hoper. Sub doesnt mean crap in bed or unofficial ATM machine. That is all I'm saying but the naysayers and the moderaters gang together and attack my words as if they where a threat. I don't understand. All I have said is I'm looking for a LTR and think non pro's who ask for cash are money grabbers but that makes me a bad guy. How strange I don't know what you are all afraid of??? I have posted this on another UK BDSM forum and everyone agrees with me, no one has accused me of being a nasty person with an axe to grind....That is pure paranoia.

earthycouple -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 5:55:51 PM)
lmao mods and posters gang up. Yep...we have secret meetings on how to screw with people every Monday. Damn...now I gave away our secrets...I hope I'm not banned from the I hate sub/mods rule club I love this...I've upped my post count by about 10 just here...almost to that elusive 2500...go Donna~

lucyboy -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 6:08:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beargonewild quote: ORIGINAL: lucyboy So from you're replies I can gather you have no argument against me other than. ........... "I have got above my station and criticised a Domme when I'm a male sub." Which is by default WRONG. wrong on this count. I think that is a form of estrogen alley, a form of femme bullying that is not atractive, logical or respectable in the slightest. Please note that not all responding are female. I'm sexually sub not a 24/7 yes Miss no Miss boy. Is that my crime?? Or can you give me a better reason for you're dislike of me??? some of us are also subs, some are claimed and some of us not. Being unclaimed or a 24/7 sub is not a crime in any books. sorry. So I'm not suposed to criticise money grabbers????? It's the fact of blanket statements which are cause for criticism, not becuase of one person criticising. That makes me wrong, a dodgepot with an axe to grind... Oh dear. Can you not see the flaw in you're reasoning.??? Infact you seem to be saying that the woman who demanded cash was not a money grabber but a blameless human being doing what is right and it is me who is wrong by defualt. neither is right nor either is wrong. By you're logic, all I need to see is the status quo!!!!, I just need to know my place, then shut my trap and leave things as they are lol lol No, we would like you to see clearly there are other sides to the issue. You are acting like insecure bullies. Please tell me what is wrong with criticising a non pro Dommes who asks for cash before there has even been a meet??? My criticism of their bad behavior makes me wrong in you're eyes, why??? Just because I had the audacity to speak my mind. (and politely speak my mind) You can agree with eachother all you like, you are still acting like insecure bullies without logic or reality on you're side... Nowhere has it been said that your are wrong for criticising pro Dommes. Nothing is wrong with speaking one's mind. It is in the manner of how it is done which is inappropiate. My logic is my own and earned through my own life experiences. I also want to thank you for pointing out my insecurities and if you have an hour or two, I am quite willing to reveal all my other faults, not a problem. I know my flaws and I also own evey single one. I have not pulled my punches and I refuse to apologise for that. I havent been rude until people where rude to me. Please tell me what in my original thread upsets you all so much??? You talk like I have upset you, not only are you're "red" answers to my replies badly written and wrong they show a defensivness that has no basis in reality because I have not attacked anyone apart from non pro women who demand cash. Are you one of them?? If not why are you on the defensive, all of you who are attacking me???? are you secret money grabbers????? Once again, I have no probs with pro Dommes just non pro's who demand cash... Maybe you take acception to my criticism because you ask for cash from strangers? or maybe you dislike my thread because you want to support femme power no matter how synical and exploitative that power is.... I don't know but you're arguments sure seem to be missing their targets. You cannot tell me I have done anything wrong in my criticism apart from upset you lot... Please have some perspective

stef -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 6:08:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lucyboy I don't know what you are all afraid of??? I believe you're reading a fair bit more into the situation than is really there. quote: I have posted this on another UK BDSM forum and everyone agrees with me, no one has accused me of being a nasty person with an axe to grind....That is pure paranoia. Like thinking the mods and others are ganging up on you? Now that's *true* paranoia, eh? Take a deep breath and come back to planet earth. ~stef

earthycouple -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 6:12:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beargonewild quote: ORIGINAL: lucyboy So from you're replies I can gather you have no argument against me other than. ........... "I have got above my station and criticised a Domme when I'm a male sub." Which is by default WRONG. wrong on this count. I think that is a form of estrogen alley, a form of femme bullying that is not atractive, logical or respectable in the slightest. Please note that not all responding are female. I'm sexually sub not a 24/7 yes Miss no Miss boy. Is that my crime?? Or can you give me a better reason for you're dislike of me??? some of us are also subs, some are claimed and some of us not. Being unclaimed or a 24/7 sub is not a crime in any books. sorry. So I'm not suposed to criticise money grabbers????? It's the fact of blanket statements which are cause for criticism, not becuase of one person criticising. That makes me wrong, a dodgepot with an axe to grind... Oh dear. Can you not see the flaw in you're reasoning.??? Infact you seem to be saying that the woman who demanded cash was not a money grabber but a blameless human being doing what is right and it is me who is wrong by defualt. neither is right nor either is wrong. By you're logic, all I need to see is the status quo!!!!, I just need to know my place, then shut my trap and leave things as they are lol lol No, we would like you to see clearly there are other sides to the issue. You are acting like insecure bullies. Please tell me what is wrong with criticising a non pro Dommes who asks for cash before there has even been a meet??? My criticism of their bad behavior makes me wrong in you're eyes, why??? Just because I had the audacity to speak my mind. (and politely speak my mind) You can agree with eachother all you like, you are still acting like insecure bullies without logic or reality on you're side... Nowhere has it been said that your are wrong for criticising pro Dommes. Nothing is wrong with speaking one's mind. It is in the manner of how it is done which is inappropiate. My logic is my own and earned through my own life experiences. I also want to thank you for pointing out my insecurities and if you have an hour or two, I am quite willing to reveal all my other faults, not a problem. I know my flaws and I also own evey single one. I like Bears claws...oh wait, damn it that says flaws....oh well...I like those too...makes you alive and human.

lucyboy -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 6:14:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: earthycouple lmao mods and posters gang up. Yep...we have secret meetings on how to screw with people every Monday. Damn...now I gave away our secrets...I hope I'm not banned from the I hate sub/mods rule club I love this...I've upped my post count by about 10 just here...almost to that elusive 2500...go Donna~ Nope you are not against me but you are the only person who has resorted to out and out rudeness for my criticism of a woman you don't even know. Why the nasty attitude? You must be partial to cash demands or just someone who likes an argument either way, you are comming across as a very spitefull person.

earthycouple -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 6:18:04 PM)
if you say so.

beargonewild -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 6:18:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lucyboy Maybe you take acception to my criticism because you ask for cash from strangers? or maybe you dislike my thread because you want to support femme power no matter how synical and exploitative that power is.... I thought what I posted was clear enough but I guess not. Though it wasn't an attack on you, it was voicing my thoughts like you were voicing yours, ok? The onlt thing I am addressing now is what I have edited in the quotes. If you checked my profile it clearly states: gay male submissive switch. Therefore it is impossible for me to be one of them.

earthycouple -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 6:23:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beargonewild quote: ORIGINAL: lucyboy Maybe you take acception to my criticism because you ask for cash from strangers? or maybe you dislike my thread because you want to support femme power no matter how synical and exploitative that power is.... I thought what I posted was clear enough but I guess not. Though it wasn't an attack on you, it was voicing my thoughts like you were voicing yours, ok? The onlt thing I am addressing now is what I have edited in the quotes. If you checked my profile it clearly states: gay male submissive switch. Therefore it is impossible for me to be one of them. OMG....Bear is a gay male submissive switch? I had no idea....damn it. How can I possibly get you into bed then charge you for it now? Oh wait. I don't have sex with play partners. I don't charge play partners and I already secretly know Bear wants me...whew for a moment that whole gay thing was scary. Bear! don't do that to me...you are my last hope at reclaiming my fake dominance!

lucyboy -> RE: God Diggers they are just wrong grrrr (8/8/2007 6:23:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: lucyboy I don't know what you are all afraid of??? I believe you're reading a fair bit more into the situation than is really there. quote: I have posted this on another UK BDSM forum and everyone agrees with me, no one has accused me of being a nasty person with an axe to grind....That is pure paranoia. Like thinking the mods and others are ganging up on you? Now that's *true* paranoia, eh? Take a deep breath and come back to planet earth. ~stef OK this is a serious thread is it not??? why then was it moved to the "randomly stupid" space on the forum? Why the overwhelming upset at such a mild rebuke of money Dommes who are pretending to non pro and looking for LTR's????? The fact that I'm here arguing with more than three people and my thread was illogically relegated proves my point. On the other forum it was women who backed me up most, so I dont think it is a universal insecurity just an insecurity that has been expressed here and backed up with a snowballing of mob mentallity. If I'm wrong please highlight my crimes???? You all seem to be better placed to judge than me so get judging...You know you love it!!!!

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