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BitaTruble -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 9:40:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44 Why should this guy be treated any differently then anyother who comes here to piss and moan about not finding what they seek? Sometimes it's not what you say, but how you say it. His post didn't come across as pissy and moany to me at all. It was thoughtful, clear and didn't push responsibility off on to others such as crying 'fake' and 'foul' on all the dominants out there or set forward some sort of agenda for One True Way and no other. For that alone, it sets him apart from your average whiney wanker. Second, he's was very honest in what, exactly, he wants and made no bones about it, so extra points for not being afraid to say.. hey, this is me, this is what I want, I'm having troube, any suggestions? quote: To the OP: Yes, it's hard. Life isn't fair. Your a grown man, act like it. There are people that have been searching for years. Some for decades. As long as you hold out for this one fantasy to be fulfilled on your terms it may well be a long wait. You may as well get used to that notion. While I don't think he acted like anything less than a man secure in what he seeks, the rest of this is spot on. Celeste

lateralist1 -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 10:06:42 AM)
I am unsure if you want someone like that or someone who is role playing for your benefit. I'm like that lol. My major vanilla fantasy is to use the hired help for sexual pleasure. But they have to be able to actually do the job that I am employing them to do. Paid or not. Unlike a lot of men who employ women because they look good. However I probably live a long way away and the business is not up and running yet so I do my own work and I doubt if you could have reflagged my drive as fast as I did. The house needs repointing and a wall knocking down and rebuilding and I can't afford a builder so when I have built the scaffold I shall just have to do it myself. I think I'm good looking apart from the muscles. At the moment I need them though. Come to think of it they come in useful for a lot of more interesting things as well. I am not sure there is anyone out there as arrogant and as nice as me. I think they broke the mould after they made me. Thankyou for giving me the knowledge that there are men out there like you. And I don't care anymore why. I have given up trying to understand myself or anyone else. I just accept it and get on with it if I can.

kshearsecouple -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 11:37:13 AM)
now in all seriousness and respect for other memebers of the board here is my statement. If I could find a house boy and all he wanted to do was clean be bossed around I'd be the first in line. I am not attracted to men in the sexual nature so that would work for me. But alas I can't have one of those. I have other outstanding issues. But i can understand why that would be a difficult thing to seek. and for words of encourgment.....the right one is out there takes time and patience. [;)]

CrazyC -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 11:47:16 AM)
housebitch, So when are you coming to CA? you need to clean up all this f*** dirt like the dirt you are. I know i had one guy offer to be my service slave and said he wanted no sex. I know myself enough that no matter what....i would want to reward a good boy, so it is nice to know there are service slaves out there who want more then just service.

housebitch -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 11:53:41 AM)
wow, ok, lotta stuff here... first, i want to thank Michael, BSB, KC692, Grlwithboy, Eric, Aquaticsub, Camille65, Celeste, and Dawntreader for your encouragement and understanding. man, i didn't know being on the board would be like this... :-) i just wanted a little advice. i find it interesting that criticizing and being rude to others seems to be so commonplace in the 'online' world- as if manners should be any different here than in the real world... and yes, it makes me a little less likely to take part in the boards in the future, i have to admit. i really do try to be polite & courteous to others in real life, and as i ventured into this 'virtual' world i tried to do the same. i also try to have an understanding that others' desires and needs may be different than my own- but that doesn't make them wrong- just 'different'. i just expect the same courtesy. To Desiresuv- sounds like you've had a similar experience- i'm sorry for that, and thank you as well. anyway, that being said, i did get a lot of 'wheat' from the chaff of this thread! Akasha- i LOVE your idea of 'falling all over' the 'out of my league' younger woman and allowing her to mistreat me. That sounds perfect! i am actually exploring some of those 'sugardaddy' sites right now to see if something can come of that...may be a little expen$ive, but...THANK YOU! Also, your 'scenario' you described in the mall- very hot! And yes, i would love that- you totally get it. However, i just want to be clear that in no way would i expect anything near that much attention to be paid to me. to that end, even the fantasy i have on my profile was way more than i would ever expect- but i was asked to describe the perfect fantasy from my perspective, so that was what i wrote. (btw, thank you for explaining that earlier in the thread, BSB.) in reality, i know the attention i receive would be much less than that, and that would be fine- as i said before, if she says 'go clean the windows, bitch' (nod to earlier post) and snaps her fingers- i'm out of her hair until they're done. i really don't want anyone thinking that i need her to follow me from window to window, insulting me and smacking me with a riding crop to 'keep me motivated'. i don't want to be 'one of those subs'. Nor would i screw it up on purpose, etc... i would just do the job to the best of my ability - trying to please her - then come back and offer to serve her further- in any way she sees fit. i'm also not one of those 'i'll serve you as a human footstool' guys - who actually needs that? i actually want to be useful. btw, Akasha, is there any way to experience your mall scenario in 'real life' without getting married? ;-) i guess several people feel i am asking a lot by requesting that a woman treat me without respect, courtesy, or dignity- i didnt have an uderstanding of that before, but i guess that is the case for most people? i guess i will keep looking for a woman that is naturally 'bitchy' and is amused by seeing how much abuse i will take from her... there has to be one somewhere? :-) why is it you always hear about hazing at sororities where girls are humiliated and made to do chores and the 'big sisters' get a huge kick out of making their pledges do demeaning acts like lick the bottom of their shoes clean etc? The pledges don't need to pay for that treatment, and the big sisters enjoy the power trip. why is that so commonplace, but if i volunteer for the same thing it is 'work' for the woman? i dont mean to be whiny, but aren't there people like that out there that will use me, degrade me, laugh at me, make me work for them, and enjoy* it? Where do all these sorority girls go after they graduate college? (oh, i'm sure i left myself open to some comments with that one!) :-) Now, to Darcyandthedark- THANK YOU for your suggestions as well. i am curious about these 'Victorian Era' groups you mentioned? any info on findng one and seeing what it's all about? also, to answer your question, i live near Palm Beach and Boca Raton, FL- both very wealthy areas - and have tried to figure out an angle to serve some of the (hopefully a little demanding?) women in those areas as a servant. still thinking on that one... Your idea of being a cuck- i would love that, actually, and it has been an area that i have been curious about for a while now. i did have one experience at Hedonism...for another thread, i think. anyway, i would be very open to that, as long as i don't actually have to have any sexual/physical contact with the male of the couple. (a little beyond my limits, unfortunately.) And the escort idea is an excellent one that i will definitely look into. i wonder if my submissive tendencies and openness to kink would be seen as an asset by an escort agency? i dont know - probably not, due to the minimal demand for men in general, but worth a shot! (Damn us men giving the milk away for free all the time...) :-) But seriously, that is exactly the kind of advice i was looking for out of my OP! thank you! To Luckyalbatross- you rock, and yes, i do fit your description- i am stable, mature, healthy, financially independant, and have a nice home. and i would be fine with 'coming when called'- as long as it is outside of my work hours. is that ok, or are some people going to flame me for having a hard limit that allows me to keep my job? ;-) And actually, that would be the point of my servitude- it would be when the woman wants it (within my availablity) and i would do whatever she wants done. the discussion would be: 'Will you be needing my services this weekend, Miss ___?', *not: 'i want to come over this weekend, so please find some things for me to do- and don't forget to be mean to me". To those that have seemed to feel my desires are too "tightly scripted", i'm not sure how much looser i can make it? isn't one of Dommes' biggest pet peeves "i'll do anything for you, Mistress. i have no desires, i just want to do whatever pleases you."? i mean, all i'm asking is: 1) please* don't say 'please'/'thank you' 2) be condescending in attitude toward me 3) be someone that i find physically attractive. and in return, i will serve any purpose that will make her life easier or give her pleasure. Is that 'limiting'? everything from serving as a chauffeur to taking a dildo up my... :-) i had a woman that used me once to stuff envelopes for her business- was that a 'self-serving fantasy' that gave her no benefit? and before i get flamed on that one, i did a BUNCH of other things for her (she was a vanilla, btw) and she loved it but she lived in dallas and developed a boyfriend a while back that wasn't too keen on having me around... i had met her on match, but man, one out of thousands? and im having trouble finding a woman to serve locally to replace her- that is what led to my OP. i have also had a couple Dommes use me for S&M videos- and i did what they wanted to do with me. So am i really self-serving??? i have learned a couple things about posting from this experience, as a sub male: 1) some people feel that you are not allowed to have any desires or motivation as a sub. If you ask for anything (even so much as "be bossy and don't say 'please'") you are asking for too much and topping from the bottom within a very 'tightly scripted' scene. 2) you, as a male sub, are to serve anyone, and if you require to be physically attracted to them, then you are selfish, egotistical, and superficial. i don't know what world these people live in, but in reality, i would think that the sub needs to be motivated by something. and i would think that in most cases they have to be attracted physically to the person holding the whip in order to submit to them. i didn't really think i was asking for much, honestly. Especially considering that i was open to sex, as well as any kink she desired within my limits. And the fact that my focus (outside of the 3 things i was looking for) is to serve my owner well and please her. i don't know how much simpler i can put it than that. i think they understand that, they just like giving a hard time to a sub. Please keep in mind i am not a sub in everyday interactions and definitely not someone you would want to mess with in real life. i guess that's part of the fun of hiding behind a keyboard for some people, though... in closing, thank you again to those that understood where i was coming from, and those that offered good, actionable, tangible advice. i really appreciate it and will make use of it! -hb PS- a special 'thank you' to Domiguy- you are F-ing funny! that post of yours was almost worth reading thru the flames to get to it! i LOL'ed reading it.

Archer -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 1:15:25 PM)
Wow sound like a hell of a guy to me. Keep the faith and I wish you all the luck in the world you're gonna need it. That said a suggestion for working towards your desired end. Tough to figure a better marketing plan for you without knowing you better. I think the trouble may be mostly in the area of Most of the people I know who want "Personal Assistants of the level you discribe yourself. Have a deep apreciation for what it takes for them to do what they do. So the verbal "abuse" often runs contrary to their nature. The closest attitude I have seen to what you discribe that actually exists is a person who requires that the clear social lines betwen the Lady of the house and the help be maintained at all times. Again all the best in your search.

Aileen68 -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 1:18:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen68 Well, you can still come and clean my toilet on your hands and knees as I ride your back and slap your ass with the toilet brush, screaming nasty little pet names. Yeehaaaaaa housebitch. Yeehaa. Wait! aren't you a sub Aileen? LOL I am. I am. But look at the guy. I have a weakness for muscles.

dawntreader -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 1:22:28 PM)
Hopefully you will hang around here...this place always has room for another witty contributer and eye-candy at that[;)]

AAkasha -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 2:10:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: housebitch btw, Akasha, is there any way to experience your mall scenario in 'real life' without getting married? ;-) i guess several people feel i am asking a lot by requesting that a woman treat me without respect, courtesy, or dignity- i didnt have an uderstanding of that before, but i guess that is the case for most people? i guess i will keep looking for a woman that is naturally 'bitchy' and is amused by seeing how much abuse i will take from her... there has to be one somewhere? :-) why is it you always hear about hazing at sororities where girls are humiliated and made to do chores and the 'big sisters' get a huge kick out of making their pledges do demeaning acts like lick the bottom of their shoes clean etc? The pledges don't need to pay for that treatment, and the big sisters enjoy the power trip. why is that so commonplace, but if i volunteer for the same thing it is 'work' for the woman? i dont mean to be whiny, but aren't there people like that out there that will use me, degrade me, laugh at me, make me work for them, and enjoy it? Where do all these sorority girls go after they graduate college? (oh, i'm sure i left myself open to some comments with that one!) :-) The emphasis is mine. Here is the crux of your challenge. Ok, why don't women enjoy this, just for the power trip? You have to realize that dominant women (who are doing it for their own pleasure) have buttons. I think our buttons are all different, but there are some consistencies. The common thing you will find with dominant women, who get off on dominating, is that their fueled by reaction in the man. I might only be speaking for myself, but I would like to hear from other femdoms on this as well. At the core of any "surface" relationship (as a start, where simple attraction is the only given), the dominant women is looking for the submissive to behave, and react, in a way that pushes her buttons. It's not just generic 'power trip'. It's much deeper than that. I don't find anything that pushes my femdom "buttons" in your scenario, but I can easily relate to the mindframe you are seeking, because I think many of us femdoms have a version of that "cruel, sadistic, selfish bitch" in them. Mine is more likely to come out when my victim is bound and gagged tightly and his eyes are tearing up and I take him by the chin, almost sympathetically, say softly, "There, there...don't be afraid," and then pull his hair cruelly until he winces in pain and smile at him just to show I am fully amused by his helplessness. That's more me than the lady walking around the mall snapping her fingers and calling the guy "dipshit," and making sure I degrade him in earshot of the most attractive ladies in the store. But the creative cruelty all comes from the same place. The question is - how do you package your suffering in a way to make it attractive to prospects? I think you'd have to ask that of the ladies that identify more with your proposed scenario. With some stretching of my imagination, I can make it work in my head, with all the right elements in place. First, I don't resonate so much with the big, athletic types in this scenario as I would with maybe a shyish, geeky nerd type. And so much of it, for me, would be how he responds to my harsh treatment. If he grovels or acts silly (sort of how you gave in in the story in your journal) I'm not turned on. I would rather he struggle with the humilation, try to hang onto his pride, and slowly have it ripped away as the day progresses. I would want to see real humility in his eyes and shame regarding what he's becoming, and make it so that when he's told to "kneel down and pick that up," he doesn't just plop on the floor like a fool for all to see, he instead looks around, his breathing all screwed up, his cheeks flushed, his heart obviously pounding, and maybe even says, in a whisper, "Please. Don't make me do this...I can't - please, I'll do anything..." Now, that's what makes this femdom hot. (PS: Of course I would make him do it anyway, even if it meant pretending to embrace him but really to wrench his arm behind his back and hiss into his ear, "Do it, or you'll pay later. DO IT.") Akasha

BossyShoeBitch -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 3:31:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha Here is the crux of your challenge. Ok, why don't women enjoy this, just for the power trip? You have to realize that dominant women (who are doing it for their own pleasure) have buttons. I think our buttons are all different, but there are some consistencies. The common thing you will find with dominant women, who get off on dominating, is that their fueled by reaction in the man. I might only be speaking for myself, but I would like to hear from other femdoms on this as well. At the core of any "surface" relationship (as a start, where simple attraction is the only given), the dominant women is looking for the submissive to behave, and react, in a way that pushes her buttons. It's not just generic 'power trip'. It's much deeper than that. I don't find anything that pushes my femdom "buttons" in your scenario, but I can easily relate to the mindframe you are seeking, because I think many of us femdoms have a version of that "cruel, sadistic, selfish bitch" in them. Mine is more likely to come out when my victim is bound and gagged tightly and his eyes are tearing up and I take him by the chin, almost sympathetically, say softly, "There, there...don't be afraid," and then pull his hair cruelly until he winces in pain and smile at him just to show I am fully amused by his helplessness. That's more me than the lady walking around the mall snapping her fingers and calling the guy "dipshit," and making sure I degrade him in earshot of the most attractive ladies in the store. But the creative cruelty all comes from the same place. The question is - how do you package your suffering in a way to make it attractive to prospects? I think you'd have to ask that of the ladies that identify more with your proposed scenario. With some stretching of my imagination, I can make it work in my head, with all the right elements in place. First, I don't resonate so much with the big, athletic types in this scenario as I would with maybe a shyish, geeky nerd type. And so much of it, for me, would be how he responds to my harsh treatment. If he grovels or acts silly (sort of how you gave in in the story in your journal) I'm not turned on. I would rather he struggle with the humilation, try to hang onto his pride, and slowly have it ripped away as the day progresses. I would want to see real humility in his eyes and shame regarding what he's becoming, and make it so that when he's told to "kneel down and pick that up," he doesn't just plop on the floor like a fool for all to see, he instead looks around, his breathing all screwed up, his cheeks flushed, his heart obviously pounding, and maybe even says, in a whisper, "Please. Don't make me do this...I can't - please, I'll do anything..." Now, that's what makes this femdom hot. (PS: Of course I would make him do it anyway, even if it meant pretending to embrace him but really to wrench his arm behind his back and hiss into his ear, "Do it, or you'll pay later. DO IT.") Akasha Now that's the kind of wank fodder I come here for! (lights a cigarette) Thanks Akasha!

Aileen68 -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 4:15:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha The question is - how do you package your suffering in a way to make it attractive to prospects? I think you'd have to ask that of the ladies that identify more with your proposed scenario. With some stretching of my imagination, I can make it work in my head, with all the right elements in place. First, I don't resonate so much with the big, athletic types in this scenario as I would with maybe a shyish, geeky nerd type. And so much of it, for me, would be how he responds to my harsh treatment. If he grovels or acts silly (sort of how you gave in in the story in your journal) I'm not turned on. I would rather he struggle with the humilation, try to hang onto his pride, and slowly have it ripped away as the day progresses. I would want to see real humility in his eyes and shame regarding what he's becoming, and make it so that when he's told to "kneel down and pick that up," he doesn't just plop on the floor like a fool for all to see, he instead looks around, his breathing all screwed up, his cheeks flushed, his heart obviously pounding, and maybe even says, in a whisper, "Please. Don't make me do this...I can't - please, I'll do anything..." Now, that's what makes this femdom hot. (PS: Of course I would make him do it anyway, even if it meant pretending to embrace him but really to wrench his arm behind his back and hiss into his ear, "Do it, or you'll pay later. DO IT.") Akasha Oh I think I have to try this femdom stuff for a bit. It looks like a lot of fucking fun.

domiguy -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 4:28:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen68 quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha The question is - how do you package your suffering in a way to make it attractive to prospects? I think you'd have to ask that of the ladies that identify more with your proposed scenario. With some stretching of my imagination, I can make it work in my head, with all the right elements in place. First, I don't resonate so much with the big, athletic types in this scenario as I would with maybe a shyish, geeky nerd type. And so much of it, for me, would be how he responds to my harsh treatment. If he grovels or acts silly (sort of how you gave in in the story in your journal) I'm not turned on. I would rather he struggle with the humilation, try to hang onto his pride, and slowly have it ripped away as the day progresses. I would want to see real humility in his eyes and shame regarding what he's becoming, and make it so that when he's told to "kneel down and pick that up," he doesn't just plop on the floor like a fool for all to see, he instead looks around, his breathing all screwed up, his cheeks flushed, his heart obviously pounding, and maybe even says, in a whisper, "Please. Don't make me do this...I can't - please, I'll do anything..." Now, that's what makes this femdom hot. (PS: Of course I would make him do it anyway, even if it meant pretending to embrace him but really to wrench his arm behind his back and hiss into his ear, "Do it, or you'll pay later. DO IT.") Akasha Oh I think I have to try this femdom stuff for a bit. It looks like a lot of fucking fun. With your new found prednisonic cock....It would be a shame not to put it to use....Of course with your sore back and all, you will finally appreciate what type of effort is involved for a man to make you gals flail around like a crab on it's back.....you all think it's soooo easy!!!....A walk in the park!! You motherfuckers just take it for granted...Think it is all fun n' games...This is hard fucking work...."Would you please just shut the fuck up!!!....I'm working here."

Grlwithboy -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 4:34:56 PM)
Yes, this "stuff" is good. And as for what Akasha said, indeed, I have buttons and preferences. I'm pretty reactive myself, so when someone has really strong triggers and I don't find them objectionable, I find myself sucked into them - kind of the way that someone you don't know may look plain to you and their looks grow on you when you find that sparks are sparking when you talk. A kink that may be neutral or OK for me in the abstract, enjoyed hugely by someone I like, can become one of my own kinks.

Jeffff -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 4:38:54 PM)
I edited what I posted here. It was uneccesarily cruel and a reminder to Me ro read the whole thread before responding Jeff

BossyShoeBitch -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 5:56:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen68 quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha The question is - how do you package your suffering in a way to make it attractive to prospects? I think you'd have to ask that of the ladies that identify more with your proposed scenario. With some stretching of my imagination, I can make it work in my head, with all the right elements in place. First, I don't resonate so much with the big, athletic types in this scenario as I would with maybe a shyish, geeky nerd type. And so much of it, for me, would be how he responds to my harsh treatment. If he grovels or acts silly (sort of how you gave in in the story in your journal) I'm not turned on. I would rather he struggle with the humilation, try to hang onto his pride, and slowly have it ripped away as the day progresses. I would want to see real humility in his eyes and shame regarding what he's becoming, and make it so that when he's told to "kneel down and pick that up," he doesn't just plop on the floor like a fool for all to see, he instead looks around, his breathing all screwed up, his cheeks flushed, his heart obviously pounding, and maybe even says, in a whisper, "Please. Don't make me do this...I can't - please, I'll do anything..." Now, that's what makes this femdom hot. (PS: Of course I would make him do it anyway, even if it meant pretending to embrace him but really to wrench his arm behind his back and hiss into his ear, "Do it, or you'll pay later. DO IT.") Akasha Oh I think I have to try this femdom stuff for a bit. It looks like a lot of fucking fun. (crooking her index finger.....) Come Aileen...Come into the light...[sm=meh.gif]

housebitch -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 6:12:50 PM)
these message boards are ok, i guess- i'm getting addicted. dammit, it's friday night and im sitting here typing!!! :-) Archer- thank you for your comment, and you are SO right about your take on the situation. it kind of goes along with what Aakasha is saying as well- i'm not pushing that 'button'. in fact, i'm pushing the wrong button altogether. i'm so nice and helpful, the natural response is for the woman to be appreciative. and if i'm pathetically subserviant, i get sympathy. (which obviously is the opposite of what i want.) it almost reminds me of an article i read about men trying to introduce their wives to 'Female Domination' by quietly and uncerimoniously starting to do things around the house- like the ironing, vacuuming, laundry, etc. - and all the wives did was thank the hell out of them, offer them more sex, and feel a little guilty about not doing as much as they used to. Obviously, those men were disappointed in that reaction, much as i would be. unfortunately, it sounds like i almost need to become one of those 'purposely misbehaving' subs or something...(ugh...) or maybe create some other 'trigger' as Aakasha has suggested? i'll almost have to create something they don't like about me to get them to want to Dom me... i will have to mull this over a bit, but it definitely something to think about... -hb PS- to dawntreader: you ain't too bad yourself! (am i allowed to say that on here?)

kittinSol -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 6:15:10 PM)
Be very careful, you won't be able to unglue away from the keyboard very, very, VERY soon. And then, what use will you to be ME? Get off the boards. NOW!

BossyShoeBitch -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 6:21:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: housebitch these message boards are ok, i guess- i'm getting addicted. dammit, it's friday night and im sitting here typing!!! :-) Archer- thank you for your comment, and you are SO right about your take on the situation. *it kind of goes along with what Aakasha is saying as well- i'm not pushing that 'button'. in fact, i'm pushing the wrong* button altogether. i'm so nice and helpful, the natural response is for the woman to be appreciative. and if i'm pathetically subserviant, i get sympathy. (which obviously is the opposite of what i want.) it almost reminds me of an article i read about men trying to introduce their wives to 'Female Domination' by quietly and uncerimoniously starting to do things around the house- like the ironing, vacuuming, laundry, etc. - and all the wives did was thank the hell out of them, offer them more sex, and feel a little guilty about not doing as much as they used to. Obviously, those men were disappointed in that reaction, much as i would be. unfortunately, it sounds like i almost need to become one of those 'purposely misbehaving' subs or something...(ugh...) or maybe create some other 'trigger' as Aakasha has suggested? i'll almost have to create something they don't like about me to get them to want to Dom me... i will have to mull this over a bit, but it definitely something to think about... -hb PS- to dawntreader: you ain't too bad yourself! (am i allowed to say that on here?) hb, I told** you that was the belly button. The button you want is about 6 inches lower! and yes, dawn is a hottie!

AquaticSub -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 6:28:23 PM)
She's right. Be very very careful. The addiction may consume you.

dawntreader -> RE: Looking for a Little Help Here... (8/10/2007 6:41:08 PM)
You guys make me blush, really! But since i am learning to accept compliments...Thankyou very much~ Now i just need to get prepared to crawl off my piano bench and hang out in the Nevada desert with 40,000 of my closet friends with nothing on but a waist chain! Talk about stepping out of one's comfort zone!

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