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Training cont... - 8/10/2007 6:10:09 PM

ExquisiteFeline

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i have just been offered 3 weeks training in anyway i want, that will suit the kind of Master that i will want.
Is this a common thing that a sub would go and get training? To be prepared for a Dominant? And from what i can get from the previous thread i put out on this subject is that the general consensus is that untrained is good, trained can be good, but also a double edge sword.
i dont really understand what kind of training i would want, i can give a basic description of the kind of Dom that i would like to be with, but nothing seems to too consistent about the people i choose to have relationships with except that they are Dominant and controlling personalities.
Maybe he just wants a 3 week kinky holiday...

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RE: Training cont... - 8/10/2007 6:15:31 PM

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god, where to start, is that a picture in the sauna on your profile?

There, I just gave you 2,000 more hits.

What do you want, what do you lack? What do you need?

Would you like to be trained in the art of setting a table?
K
How about movement (let's call that space execution?)

Dressing to please without wearing purple and other nasty shit like that?

Cooking?
Cleaning?

If you want training in blowjobs and body worship, you can only get the world class shit here at my house.

Ron

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RE: Training cont... - 8/10/2007 6:18:32 PM

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To me, unless this is the person you're looking to serve, they may train to in a way differently than a potential owner might want for you...i'd be wary of someone saying they'd train you unless they were going to be your dominant.

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RE: Training cont... - 8/10/2007 6:28:35 PM

Padriag

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I'm going to echo what Ron has said in many ways. There are many different ways you could be trained. Are you looking for some form of formal slave etiquette? Training as a service submissive, and if so what form of service. For example, if I wanted a girl trained as a house manager or personal assistant, there is a school that will provide 6 weeks of formal training. There's another school that will teach modeling, make-up and fashion if I want a trophy slave.

What sort of training you might seek out would depend on the kind of relationship and dominant you seek. What kinds of skill sets would help you towards that goal.

On a more personal note... if I want a girl trained, I'll see to it myself. Its unlikely someone else is going to train a girl to suit me.

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RE: Training cont... - 8/10/2007 6:34:52 PM

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Generally to the OP, but in massive agreement with Padraig.

I always say it this way, however you are trained before you come to me, when I say more tongue or whatever or lick like this, don't look up at me with half-lidded eyes and innocently say, 'that is not how MasterFearsomeTrainer taught me to do it'...not fuckin' EVER.

instant icepick and threading you thru windows...

not gonna be your best day ever again, from here on out, if you survive the day.

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RE: Training cont... - 8/10/2007 6:35:42 PM

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Lack. i dont know, i feel so inadequate now, (must be talking to a real Dom ;))
i think i am fine in the blow jobs and body worship dept, (funny it is not hard to find that kind of training, and if i am seeing a vanilla, i blow their mind and they kinda stare blankly with confused awe))

ok i see, so lots of thinking.

Well for a start.
i am ambitious, i want a professional lifestyle, i want to move ahead in life after uni, i long for a committed relationship that is going to keep me safe and secure. i had good training from my father, but i want more refined manners, i want to be more gentle, softly spoken and not reveal my emotions so much. i dont want to feel the need to be so outspoken and self righteous, but i dont want to lose the voice i need professionally. i want to be more confident. Yes table skills, i want to be able to entertain professionals.
i am an artist and i want success, but not sure about how to go about getting it, and i am afraid to put myself out there, also and i am not willing to do the Tracy Eminin thing of fucking all the lecturers and gallery owners. i want to create an air of mystic so that people want to know my work.
i want to be more disciplined to yoga, meditation, exercise, my skills in art, and study.

oh and that pathetic little sucker who was my lecture last year, i want his job, the only requirements are to patronize students and touch up the females, that sounds like fun, i dont think anyone learnt much else.

i will think of more soon. Properly a full service, lube and change, better check everything ;) Hasnt be properly maintained for a long time, had some bad owners ;)

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RE: Training cont... - 8/10/2007 6:41:54 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sting516

To me, unless this is the person you're looking to serve, they may train to in a way differently than a potential owner might want for you...i'd be wary of someone saying they'd train you unless they were going to be your dominant.

That pretty much pegs my thoughts on the matter as well. If anything, prior training might cause me to have second thoughts about accepting a slave, as I would most likely have to spend time undoing training that I found undesirable before beginning my own training program.

Owner of slave L

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RE: Training cont... - 8/10/2007 6:48:53 PM

Padriag

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So far the things you describe could either be found in formal education (ie a professional course on etiquette, some colleges offer those), or with good friends. Though some of it may have applications in the lifestyle, you don't necessarily need a "dom" to train you for it. BTW, the schools I mentioned before... neither have anything to do with the lifestyle either. One is a school for formal maids, butlers, house managers, personal assistants and personal chefs. The other is a modeling school. The modeling school does, I believe, include a course on etiquette and social grace.

As for success in business... find mentors in business. These can be people you admire (anyone, you don't actually have to know them, just be able to read about them and how they succeed). If you're going into business for yourself, you've got to learn to be an entrepreneur, and I'll warn you up front its a high stress, high risk, high reward path.

That give you any ideas?

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RE: Training cont... - 8/10/2007 7:17:19 PM

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I can't think of anything you listed, that would require the "training services" of a "dominant". There are many many ways in which a submissive Lover can be an asset to their partner, most of which can be somewhat self-taught (allowing one to bring a generic skill set to the table, without needing to unlearn what "Master Trainsthesubs" taught).

The ettiquite/gracious hostess issues can be dealt with through classes (professional organizations, community college, or adult ed courses through community recreation centers) or through study of manners/ettiquite books. Business sense/networking can be learned through college courses, books on networking, non-profit professional business organizations, etc. If you want to learn how to run a household [the hard way], raise a large family before doing the submissive thing (said tongue in cheek).

Think outside the box... What are your strengths? What can you do, independent of others, to enhance them? What interesting things do you want in your life, that could become an asset in a D/s relationship?

For example- years ago, I considered becoming a doula, and spent most of a year researching it. Part of my casual studies involved learning how to "ground" people - usually through foot rubs, or specific forms of touch. Noticing when people need a calming touch [then doing something about it] became second nature to me, and is one of those things that makes my Lover think I'm the coolest person on earth. LOL I don't believe that I'd necessarily have learned that skill (which fits oh so perfectly in our relationship), if I'd spent 3 weeks being formally "trained".

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RE: Training cont... - 8/10/2007 7:24:14 PM

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RE: Training cont... - 8/10/2007 7:32:27 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ExquisiteFeline

i have just been offered 3 weeks training in anyway i want, that will suit the kind of Master that i will want.
Is this a common thing that a sub would go and get training? To be prepared for a Dominant? And from what i can get from the previous thread i put out on this subject is that the general consensus is that untrained is good, trained can be good, but also a double edge sword.
i dont really understand what kind of training i would want, i can give a basic description of the kind of Dom that i would like to be with, but nothing seems to too consistent about the people i choose to have relationships with except that they are Dominant and controlling personalities.
Maybe he just wants a 3 week kinky holiday...

Is it common? That depends on the circles you travel in. It doesn't seem to be common at all in the circles I travel in and I would view it as entirely worthless. Most of the things I hear trainers talking about here Valyraen has no use for.

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 8/10/2007 7:42:22 PM >

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RE: Training cont... - 8/10/2007 9:42:35 PM

LuckyAlbatross

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Wow that's impressive to have someone offer to train you in ANYTHING you want for three weeks- for free even!!

I think the most useful thing would probably be learning how to sew properly and make clothes. Can they do that? If so, PLEASE connect me up with them.

If not, tell them to stop falsely advertising themselves.

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RE: Training cont... - 8/10/2007 10:35:00 PM

Archer

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Echo Echo Echo........
Unkess you know what you want to be trained in the offer is likely just bait to get you in their door.
I want Book Keeping, Wardrobe care for fine men's clothing, Cordon Bleux Style Chef's training. One week each if they say sure I can do that you know they are a lier. LOL They have schools that teach these things that take years to become highly skilled and the likelyhood that anyone out there can provide "training " on the wide variety of skill sets that can be included is slim to none, and slim left town.

That being said, you listed the things you want more training in, the resources out there in the vanilla world that teach most of them.
Business ettiqute classes exist, Social ettiqutte classes exist, Take the time to take a martial arts class under a fairly classical style, that will help with humility, and self discipline, you mentioned.

Think Outside of the BDSM box to find the skills you want to integrate into your BDSM life.

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RE: Training cont... - 8/10/2007 10:59:12 PM

KiandPhoenix

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I am with those who think that unless it is the person you are going to be serving, that it is almost (not completely) pointless. Every person is different, and what one thinks is proper may be an insult to another. Look at some of the threads here. Even online there is a huge difference from one person to another. Some would insist you call every Dom/me with a title, and some would never insist on it. Some say use the / in we, I, us, D/s, and others find it unthinkable.

I laid carpet for a short time with my uncle. I heard he told other people I was one of the best people he ever had work with him. I was clueless, but I followed his style, and learned how he wanted it done. Apparently when working with people who had been trained to lay carpet he had a lot of conflicts, because they had been trained in a specific way.

Stick to being trained by the person you want to serve. You might get something out of the three weeks, but it wont be much, and he certainly will be having a holiday. If you want to learn to serve him, learn from him. if you want to learn to serve me, learn from me.

~Ki

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RE: Training cont... - 8/10/2007 11:13:13 PM

MzMia

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LOL ron!

I am offering training at my house also: I will train you to trim the bushes and trees, detail my car, cook tasty
low calorie delicious meals, clean my house from top to bottom, run errands for me, and assist me with routine tasks.

Then I am offering further training in kissing my ass.

I am offering this training for 50%, so hurry now and sign up.

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RE: Training cont... - 8/10/2007 11:17:13 PM

mnottertail

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aint you glad you unblocked me? I am about a funny motherfucker ain't I?

Walls move,
minds do too,
on a warm san franciscan night-----------

Ron

wrong too

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RE: Training cont... - 8/10/2007 11:22:54 PM

MzMia

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You are rather entertaining....

One day you will submit!

Then you will be mine.

You need a good spanking.

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RE: Training cont... - 8/10/2007 11:26:04 PM

michaelOfGeorgia

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ExquisiteFeline

i have just been offered 3 weeks training in anyway i want, that will suit the kind of Master that i will want.
Is this a common thing that a sub would go and get training? To be prepared for a Dominant? And from what i can get from the previous thread i put out on this subject is that the general consensus is that untrained is good, trained can be good, but also a double edge sword.
i dont really understand what kind of training i would want, i can give a basic description of the kind of Dom that i would like to be with, but nothing seems to too consistent about the people i choose to have relationships with except that they are Dominant and controlling personalities.
Maybe he just wants a 3 week kinky holiday...

where do i sign up?

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RE: Training cont... - 8/11/2007 3:24:48 AM

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I've been offered by several for years in this sort of 'no strings attached' viewpoint. I chose to decline, the 'acts' would seem heartless and I am doubtful I would put my all into it and treat it more lile a chore or a job. So this guy thinks HE is doing you the favour huh? ha. Not sure, but if you ask me, he is a waste of pussy.

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RE: Training cont... - 8/11/2007 5:45:35 AM

Focus50

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ExquisiteFeline

i have just been offered 3 weeks training in anyway i want, that will suit the kind of Master that i will want.
Is this a common thing that a sub would go and get training? To be prepared for a Dominant? And from what i can get from the previous thread i put out on this subject is that the general consensus is that untrained is good, trained can be good, but also a double edge sword.
i dont really understand what kind of training i would want, i can give a basic description of the kind of Dom that i would like to be with, but nothing seems to too consistent about the people i choose to have relationships with except that they are Dominant and controlling personalities.
Maybe he just wants a 3 week kinky holiday...

Hmmm, and if your goal were to, sayyyy, get married and an equally "big hearted" guy offered to "train you" over 3 weeks for the impending honeymoon, you'd consider that, too? Or who do you think would be getting the most benefit from such an arrangement?

One dom/me CANNOT train you for another dom/me's needs - everyone is different and has different requirements of their submissive. But one dom/me can certainly use you and screw you etc to his heart's content under the illusion of "training" and you'd even get to thank him for his sacrifice, esp if it's 3 weeks worth! Of course if that's ok with you or you just plain believe his nonsense, then go for it....

Yet here I am looking for some acres in country Vic.... ;-)

Focus.

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