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Japanese BDSM terms and commands - 8/10/2007 9:13:39 PM   
BlackSakura


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Minna-san, konnichwa!
Hi everyone,

Dose anyone know where I can find Japanese BDSM terms as well as some common commands?  They don't teach you this in class!

Doumo arigatou!


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RE: Japanese BDSM terms and commands - 8/11/2007 1:22:07 AM   
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Konbonwa Sakura-san,

Boku wa wakaranai.  Gomenesai.

I didn't learn about BDSM until after my Japanese wife and I divorced.  It's unlikely she would have known either.

You're only good bet will be to become passably fluent in Japanese (yes kiddies, that'll mean learning kanji too) and then frequent their websites; or possibly seek out a Japanese dominant patient and willing enough to offer some personal instruction.

Ja matta,

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RE: Japanese BDSM terms and commands - 8/11/2007 3:54:01 AM   
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I find that a lot terms used in adult entertainment in Japan are English loanwords, and I imagine this carries over into BDSM.  As far as good references go, the "Making Out In Japanese" series has a lot of useful sex terms, and if I remember correctly, some BDSM might have been covered.

Additionally, the command forms of a lot of common verbs might be useful, such as すわって "suwatte"  (sit), 見せて "misete" (show me, or more appropriate to the scene, present), せいざ "seiza" (kneel),  〇〇 を もてきて "______ wo mottekitte" (bring me ________), etc.  (I hope the Japanese text shows up...)


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RE: Japanese BDSM terms and commands - 8/11/2007 7:35:55 AM   
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"Shibari" on Wipi
http://www.londonfetishscene.com/wipi/index.php/Shibari

"Japanese Rope Art"
http://www.japaneseropeart.com/

"Hojojutsu"
http://www.sqjh.me.uk/squaddiejh/Hojojutsu.htm

"Hentai dictionary: Japanese perversions, fetishes and AV slang"
http://www.hellodamage.com/homedespot/Adictionary.htm

"Ohayo sanspo: sex info"
http://www.ohayo-sanspo.net/en/terms.htm

"How to search for hot Japanese porn: Part 1"
http://www.fleshbot.com/sex/japan/how-to-search-for-hot-japanese-porn-part-one-243346.php

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RE: Japanese BDSM terms and commands - 8/11/2007 2:16:30 PM   
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皆!
ありがとう。^_^  
ええ、漢字は読みやすいし、書きやすいと思います。
The reason I'm asking is because, if it wasn't obvious enough, I am a Japanese major (in progress and feel free to correct any mistakes!), I like to give my sub commands and what have you in Japanese.  For my benefit, I want to make sure it's correct.

NovelAproach,
I figured commands would be in the て forrm; I suppose the なさい form would be too polite?


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RE: Japanese BDSM terms and commands - 8/11/2007 2:33:26 PM   
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Yeah, the て form would most likely be appropriate in a scene, you can always add 下さい after it if you feel like being nice.  The -ってるぞ form (I think?) might even be alright if you're pissed at the sub.  Just a guess though.

EDIT:  I browsed through the links Petronius provided, I don't think you'll find anything to help you there. 


< Message edited by NovelApproach -- 8/11/2007 2:40:37 PM >


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RE: Japanese BDSM terms and commands - 8/11/2007 9:09:00 PM   
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A book titled "Japanese Street Slang" by Peter Constantine may be helpful, if slightly dated.  

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RE: Japanese BDSM terms and commands - 8/12/2007 5:53:40 AM   
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黒桜へ
メール見たばかり。

i think it is fantastic that You wish to command Your submissive in Japanese.
i used to live in Tokyo and have some knowledge of BDSM 日本語で。

Which terms as You looking to know?

The imperative in Japanese depends on the kind of verb you wish to use.
Can take the forms as you previously mentioned but in some cases you can also
substitute the last letter in a verb with an e for example
to use tsukau 使う
use it - tsukae 使え

also a go one for you would be
kuru - to come 来る
koi - come here 来い

suware - sit 座れ
kuchi wo akete 口を開けて

etc

Hope that helps.

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RE: Japanese BDSM terms and commands - 8/12/2007 8:43:16 AM   
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Sorry for the hijack, but Stephann your pic looks really good! sexy

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RE: Japanese BDSM terms and commands - 8/12/2007 6:26:35 PM   
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Konbanwa, Sakura-shi.

As for Japanese and BDSM,

Looking at sociolects and mastering the differences between female Japanese and male Japanese may go a long way toward what is sought. Gender roles and enunciation may change in such a context. Many other nuances of language may be employed for such a purpose. For instance, distal and humble language may be more appropriate to a submissive person addressing a dominant, while proximal and imperative language may be more appropriate the other way around.

Additionally, it may be the case that othering is appropriate in such a context, with the dominant party using words like "anta", and the submissive party refraining from using any form of othering at all, speaking entirely in an uchi-centric mode, or entirely in an othering mode but without self-reference.

Imperatives and harsher forms are presumably useful.

Should good information on this be found, it would be appreciated.

Arigato gozaimashita.


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RE: Japanese BDSM terms and commands - 8/12/2007 8:45:53 PM   
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Sakura-San,

Here's a little homework to help you with your studies.  Gambatte kudasai!

はじめまして。
 
どうぞ よろしく お願いします。
 
大学時代 に 一年半ぐらい 日本語 を べんきょうして いました。なかなか 上手 に なりません。
 
ゆっくり 話せば 分かります。
 
かんたん で あれば かんたん な ほど いい です。
 
三年 前 に 三週間 ぐらい 日本 に いました。東 こがね に いました。日本 は とても おもしろい と 思いました。
 
たくさん しんせつな 人 が います。
 
和食 の なか で すし が 一番 すき です。
 
日本 に いつ かえる か まだ 決めて いません。
 
去年 の 十二月 に JLPT レベル 四 しけん を うけて、ごうかく しました。
 
カナ を 読む こと も 書く こと も 出来ます が 二百ぐらい 漢字 が 分かります。
 
話す こと と 聞く こと は むずかしい です。
 
日本 に かえる 前 に 漢字 を ならいたい です けど 毎日 三十分 ぐらい 漢字 を 書いて います。
 
さいきん しごと が いそがしくなった ので 日本語 を べんきょうして いません。たくさん かいぎ が あります。
 
毎日 一人 で 車 で 会社 に 行きます。マリン カウンテー に 住んで いるん です が 家 から 会社 まで 三十分 ぐらい かかります。
 
時 と ばあい によって 車 も フエリー も 使います。
 
私 は 毎朝 六時半 ごろ に 家 を 出ます。その 時間 は みち が すいて います。
 
朝 は 夕方 より 早い です。
 
毎日 うんてん しながら 日本語 テ-プ- を 聞いて います。 しごと を はじめる 前 に でんわしなければ 十分 ぐらい 漢字 を 書いて います。
 
会社 に 着く と まず コ-ヒ- を 飲みます。
 


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RE: Japanese BDSM terms and commands - 8/13/2007 9:20:38 AM   
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Care to transliterate?

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RE: Japanese BDSM terms and commands - 8/13/2007 7:03:07 PM   
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I translated for you on the CM side.  Thanks.

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RE: Japanese BDSM terms and commands - 8/18/2007 4:42:35 AM   
Aswad


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~nods~

Thanks.


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