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Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok to b... - 8/10/2007 9:57:02 PM

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I wanna go out to drinks, and no, we do not advicate drinking and driving , and we don't have any one to be designated, unless we pay a cab, how long would James have to wait around after one drink before being safe to drive again? I know it depends on each situation really, but in general?

And then why do fans dry us out so much make our throats ache and generally make us feel like shit? It's so hot in here I have to have a fan on and even tho it's not always right in my face it makes me feel like shit.

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RE: Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok ... - 8/10/2007 10:05:20 PM

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I wanna go out to drinks, and no, we do not advicate drinking and driving , and we don't have any one to be designated, unless we pay a cab, how long would James have to wait around after one drink before being safe to drive again? I know it depends on each situation really, but in general?

And then why do fans dry us out so much make our throats ache and generally make us feel like shit? It's so hot in here I have to have a fan on and even tho it's not always right in my face it makes me feel like shit.

Not a big fan,of fans.......

One drink? emmmm At least a hour,or two.

Hell,just shwill, and get a cab.

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RE: Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok ... - 8/10/2007 10:07:30 PM

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We might do that.

The fan's nessisary to stay comfortable. IT's unbearable in here with out it, I just hate it makes me unable to breath.

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RE: Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok ... - 8/10/2007 10:12:05 PM

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One beer or One glass of wine and waiting at least 2 hours to drive, and James should be fine.

Remember DUI's are very serious offenses why risk it?

Remember not to drink on an empty stomach, AND
do not confuse really strong drinks or mixed drinks like a Long Island Iced Tea as 1 drink!
**Unless you are standing there you really don't know how much alcohol will be put into your drink.**

If James has more than one drink, and/or you just want to party, why not just plan on catching a cab BEFOREHAND,
and just having fun?

I used to be a bartender, years ago, by the way.

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RE: Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok ... - 8/10/2007 10:24:59 PM

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MzMia, That's probably what we'll do or get those drink blends from a grocery store and drink at home.

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RE: Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok ... - 8/10/2007 10:32:03 PM

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LOL, you are probably better off drinking at home, I am enjoying a lite beer, myself.

Cheers!!

To tell you the truth, when I go out these days, I often just plan on drinking when I am safely back home.

It's just not even worth it.

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RE: Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok ... - 8/10/2007 10:40:11 PM

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yeah, it's not it's ike 6 or 7 bucks, and if you don't like the drink the restarant usualy won't exchange it, plus I am usualy chowing down a good meal first and am to ful to drink by the time dinner's over.

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RE: Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok ... - 8/10/2007 10:41:56 PM

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And then why do fans dry us out so much make our throats ache and generally make us feel like shit? It's so hot in here I have to have a fan on and even tho it's not always right in my face it makes me feel like shit.

If you want to avoid the parch, drink more water when you're in front of the fan.

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RE: Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok ... - 8/10/2007 10:50:44 PM

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yeah, it's not it's ike 6 or 7 bucks, and if you don't like the drink the restarant usualy won't exchange it,

Of course they won't. That's like buying a bag of chips and wanting to return it because you didn't like them.

They've used the product to make it, the server brought it over, and if you return it, they still have to wash the glass. Their costs are the same, whether you drink it or not.

The only time I let someone exchange a drink is when I convince them to let me be creative. Then it's my fault. But if you order a drink, then don't like it, that's your problem.

As to the number of drinks, here is a set of assumptions:

You don't drink often,
James is over 250 lbs,
You want him to drive below the legal limit, not necessarily at 0 BAC.

The first will lower the number, as he will feel it faster. The second will drop the number, as he has more blood to alcoholise. The third is just an assumption.

I would say one drink per hour is probably a decent rate for James. Then, an hour after the last drink, he's good to go.

Don't quote me on this.

Yours,

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RE: Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok ... - 8/10/2007 10:53:52 PM

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The average body metabolizes one ounce of alcohol an hour.
It takes 2 drinks in one hour to put most people over the limit. (a drink is 1 oz of liqour, 6oz of wine or 12 oz 6% beer) Calculate the number of drinks in a cocktail individually as to measured liqours. a Long Island Ice tea might constitute 3 or 4 drinks all by itself.
So how long it will take depends on two major and a few dozen minor factors
1 How long you have been drinking in the course of the night
2. How many drinks you have consummed during that time.
   a. your metabolism
   b. your body fat content (alcohol metabolizes faster in a lean body than a fatty one)

So on average lets say you have been out for 4 hours had 2 drinks each hour.
So you have had 8 drinks over 4 hours the math gets funny so be carefull here.
At the end of hour 1 you have 2 drinks in you at the end of hour 2 you have 3 drinks in you (one left from the first hour and the two this hour) end of hour 3 you have 4 drinks in you, end of hour 4 you have 5 drinks in you. If you quit drinking after hour 4 you still have 3 hours until you are likely to be back under the legal limit.

If you can't make the calculation when you are ready to leave you're too drunk to drive, LOL

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RE: Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok ... - 8/10/2007 10:55:58 PM

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cabs are cheap - in every sense of the word.... a DUI - ruins you.... sooooo.... have fun -but take a cab- even here - where i am - a cab makes more sense than a dui..

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RE: Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok ... - 8/10/2007 11:29:42 PM

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I wanna go out to drinks, and no, we do not advicate drinking and driving , and we don't have any one to be designated, unless we pay a cab, how long would James have to wait around after one drink before being safe to drive again? I know it depends on each situation really, but in general?

Why not just check into a downtown hotel that has a restaurant and full bar for the night? Then you can make a kind of adventure night out of it - do some play in a different place away from home. That way you don't have to worry about driving at all until the next day and can have some creative fun as well.

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RE: Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok ... - 8/10/2007 11:33:48 PM

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slave4UMistress, we'd hang out at the stores and stuff, for several hours, I did indicate in the first op that we don't drink and drive. neither of us get disruptive or anything so we'd be fit to walk about walmart or something. there's a whole shopping center where I like to go eat:D

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RE: Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok ... - 8/10/2007 11:38:23 PM

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That's a very good idea! are full bars expensive?

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I wanna go out to drinks, and no, we do not advicate drinking and driving , and we don't have any one to be designated, unless we pay a cab, how long would James have to wait around after one drink before being safe to drive again? I know it depends on each situation really, but in general?

Why not just check into a downtown hotel that has a restaurant and full bar for the night? Then you can make a kind of adventure night out of it - do some play in a different place away from home. That way you don't have to worry about driving at all until the next day and can have some creative fun as well.

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RE: Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok ... - 8/11/2007 5:45:41 AM

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are full bars expensive?

For the most part, mixed drinks and glasses of wine range from about $7-$10 at restaurants/bars, although premium liquors or jumbo-sized drinks can easily be more expensive. Most beers are usually a little cheaper. If you're going to a high-end bar/nightclub/restaurant, they can also be more expensive.

Alcohol mark-up in restaurants/bars are typically marked up roughly triple the cost of the ingredients. The mark-up pays for the chair you're sitting on, the atmosphere you are enjoying, the manager who's running the place, the electric, the roof, maintenance, liquor licenses, huge insurance bills, etc.

What the mark-up doesn't pay for is your bartener or waiter, so remember you have to tip them 15% - 20% of your full bill as well. 15% is a base tip for basic service - 20% is for good service. A meaningful "thank you" to the server isn't a substitute for a good tip.

And no - you shouldn't even ask to send back a drink you ordered to "try" if you don't like it - very poor manners. As long as the drink is made properly, it's not the bar's fault you don't like it, and they shouldn't have to cover the cost. You can only send it back if there's something seriously wrong with it, like a fly doing the backstroke. Through trial and error, you'll get to know what you like, and be able to order better for yourself. (For example: Sonnet orders a margarita: 1800, rocks, no salt, no Rose's, extra lime. Mmmmm...)

If you're really worried about the dollars, yes, you can certainly drink at home - it's not hard to learn to make a few mixed drinks. While it costs significantly more to dine/drink out, it's really the whole experience that you're paying for, not just the liquid in the glass.

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RE: Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok ... - 8/11/2007 6:32:51 AM

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I dont like tipping and I think, indeed know, how much alcohol is required to impede driving performance is a variable to such an extent that drink driving laws should be erased from the statute book immediately.

Accident circumstances and observable behaviour should dictate the legal response to alcohol consumption. when driving.
Moderate amounts of alcohol can actually improve ie reduce response time. Oh yes it can !

just to add: a person who caused an accident but has not "had a drink" and in which the other party has consumed alcohol may well get a lighter sentence. Justice?

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RE: Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok ... - 8/11/2007 7:06:58 AM

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Some tips:

I'm not going to quote Benji, but I do think that one drink per hour then wait an hour to drive is going to be ok for *most* people.   If you aren't familiar with how your body reacts to alcohol, have a plan B (i.e. enough cash for a cab and a phone number to call one) just in case.

Make sure to drink one large glass of water per one alcoholic beverage.   This will slow you down on drinking your alcoholic beverage, plus help you keep hydrated, lessening any after-effects/hangover.

Premium liquors will cause far less of a hangover than rail drinks (basic brand the bar uses if you just want generic vodka rather than say Grey Goose).

If you really don't like tipping, the only suggestion I have is to not go anywhere where it's customary, which is just about anywhere where someone provides one-on-one service - restaurants, bars, getting your hair cut, getting a massage or a manicure, etc. If tipping was eliminated, restaurant/bar prices would increase dramatically (think 25% or more) because restaurants would have to start paying bar and wait staff a living wage, instead of the $2-$3 / hour they get paid now. I also think you'd see a dramatic drop in the level of service - seriously - you'd have to be nuts to deal with what most servers deal with if there wasn't gratuity involved. Not tipping because one doesn't "believe in it" only punishes the poor schmuck who's just trying to make a living - it doesn't make the non-tipper a rebel, it just makes them cheap.

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RE: Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok ... - 8/11/2007 7:24:53 AM

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Moderate amounts of alcohol can actually improve ie reduce response time. Oh yes it can !

When I was younger, I was involved in a study to test response time and driving ability in individuals under the influence of alcohol.

Got to get liquored up, breath and blood tests, over time, and drove a simulator around.

It was fun. After one drink, the reaction time slows dramatically. After about three drinks, I got to run over simulated people, cars, kids, trees, with a big shit-eating grin on my face.

It is not just reaction time. It is behavior changes. It all fits together in a big pile of doodoo.

This statement is so profoundly wrong, and disproven by so many scientific studies, that I am shocked there are people who still believe this nonsense.

Sinergy

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http://www.rsa.ie/NEWS/upload/File/Just_One/Scientific%20Summary%20.PDF

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RE: Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok ... - 8/11/2007 8:37:44 AM

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Use the Cool Recipe from the Fired Egg thread. Save your internal water by using the spray bottle to provide evaporation.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1196975/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#1198716

You will dehydrate using AC or fans so more water is recommended. Gatorade or a similar sport drink is good too. I use the dry form and mix it much weaker than the bottled product.

There is no easy guide to wait times for driving following drinking. There are too many factors. Take a cab, it's cheaper than a DWI.

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RE: Two questions, first how long after drinking is ok ... - 8/11/2007 8:43:24 AM

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i know people who have wine with dinner i think food slows the asorbition rate i make it a point if i am driving it is pop if am not then a glass of wine just to relax being a drunk and looking stupid days a long over lol

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