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No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 8:47:21 AM

LadyDezire

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My question is to the slaves and subbies, but I would also appreacate some feed back from other Dominants....Why bother putting your name on here searching for a Dominant if you are not willing to at least write a paragraph about who you are and what you seek?
If you are to lazy to provide a little bit about yourself to show your sincerity, then how can you expect a Dominant of any worth to be interested in you. That is just as bad as the one line emails. Remember, first impressions are lasting impressions. If you can't write an intelligent email, consisting of more then one line, please don't waste my time or that of other Dominants, if we wanted dimwits we would advertise for them. But since I and other Dominants I know don't subscribe to dimwits.com that is not going to happen....LOL....but seriously, I feel if I took the time to provide a thorough profile, show a little respect and at least reply with some relevent information......your thoughts??

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RE: No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 9:08:29 AM

sudja

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyDezire

My question is to the slaves and subbies, but I would also appreacate some feed back from other Dominants....Why bother putting your name on here searching for a Dominant if you are not willing to at least write a paragraph about who you are and what you seek?
If you are to lazy to provide a little bit about yourself to show your sincerity, then how can you expect a Dominant of any worth to be interested in you. That is just as bad as the one line emails. Remember, first impressions are lasting impressions. If you can't write an intelligent email, consisting of more then one line, please don't waste my time or that of other Dominants, if we wanted dimwits we would advertise for them. But since I and other Dominants I know don't subscribe to dimwits.com that is not going to happen....LOL....but seriously, I feel if I took the time to provide a thorough profile, show a little respect and at least reply with some relevent information......your thoughts??

I suspect you're not going to like my opinion.

1. The term "subbie" is insulting, and I find that those who use it generally do not understand that a submissive is as valuable as a Dominant. The power may be different as between a paired couple, but the inherent value of the people is not.

2. I don't have a profile here - I'm not looking. I'm here to enjoy the Forums, and possibly correspond with folks whose posts I find interesting, and vice versa. None of that requires me to have a profile as profiles are geared more towards the "match-making" aspect of collarme.com

3. If I *was* looking - Any Dominant of worth would know who I am by my posts. If they were not interested in somebody who has the types of thoughts I share, in the able manner in which I share them, then I am not interested in them.

4. Your own post is replete with errors.

5. How is providing a profile showing "respect?" Why are you, or any random self-proclaimed or otherwise Dominant here worthy of any more respect than the average person? Courtesy, yes. Respect? That's earned, but beyond that, mere status as Dominant doesn't accord you any special or "better" treatment in my book.

Oh, you're very right about first impressions. :)

sudja

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RE: No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 9:32:42 AM

Gemeni

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I figure blank profiles are of those who would rather look than be looked at.

It gives nothing for manipulators and wankers to seize on.

My own profile is very minimal,since I prefer to avoid the "shoeboxing" crowd.

I'm a person-not a shopping list.

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RE: No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 9:44:23 AM

EmeraldSlave2

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If someone chooses not to have a profile, more power to them. I figure they know what it means and the consequences that come from it. I'd think you'd prefer it that way since it makes it so much easier to screen them out.

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RE: No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 9:58:12 AM

Oumae

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gemeni

My own profile is very minimal,since I prefer to avoid the "shoeboxing" crowd.

I'm a person-not a shopping list.

I don't find someone not having much on their profile rude or insulting but then again I have very little on mine. Gemeni put it perfectly for me, I prefer to converse with people and not be a list. I do not see how that makes me less sincere ... maybe more private but thats my choice to make.

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quote]ORIGINAL: sudja

1. The term "subbie" is insulting, and I find that those who use it generally do not understand that a submissive is as valuable as a Dominant. The power may be different as between a paired couple, but the inherent value of the people is not.

I use the term "subbie" sometimes and it is in no way intended as an insult...It is a term of endearment. If a sub of mine disliked the term I would take their feelings into consideration but then again they hear the tone of my voice on saying it and none have complained.

Oumae

< Message edited by Oumae -- 7/3/2005 9:59:49 AM >

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RE: No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 10:06:17 AM

ProScatman

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Since you've asked for personal feedback here's mine. I believe my profile is very informative, in fact maybe too informative. I designed my profile the way it is for reasons that seemed good to me. Bold, honest, and to the point. But, I remember when I was squemish about describing myself in writing; for fear of being reproached by others.

Who knows why some people who post here have light profiles? I don't think I would be justified in passing judgement on anyone here! And, I don't think anyone else ought to either. I believe you will find the old addage " point one finger at someone and you have four pointing back at you" to be vary true of this site.

< Message edited by ProScatman -- 7/3/2005 10:10:47 AM >

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RE: No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 10:24:23 AM

mistoferin

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quote:

I use the term "subbie" sometimes and it is in no way intended as an insult...It is a term of endearment.

There are also those of us out here who not only are not insulted by the term....we actually like it when it is used in an endearing fashion.

As for ads with no profiles......perhaps the problem is that people are viewing all profiles as ads....when indeed, some may not be attempting to advertise at all but merely wish to test out the waters. Personally, when I am contacted by a Dominant who is asking for correspondence and I find he has no profile, my response to him is that if he wishes to share a bit more of himself so that I had a better understanding of who I am talking to then I would be more than happy to respond.

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RE: No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 10:24:39 AM

quietkitten

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I am not sure why someone would consider it rude to have either a minimalist or non-existent profile. If that sort of thing annoys a person they should by all means avoid contacting that member.
I choose to maintain a low profile until asked specific questions, then I certainly will tell people about myself.

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RE: No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 10:35:14 AM

Faramir

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Their profile, not mine. Everyone can and will use it as they choose.

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RE: No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 11:04:21 AM

zaynab

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im still new here and im having a problem with figuring out how to work my profile screen... but hopefully, one day... ill end up with a few nice photos (if you can put more than one on there) on there and a few paragraphs that are worth reading! *smile ~ zay

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RE: No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 11:11:00 AM

stormsfate

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I no longer have a completed profile here, although at some point I will probably say more than the three words that are there now. Simply put, I'm not looking. I can't tell you how many people have emailed to ask me why I'm here if I'm not looking. I don't see how that is anyone else's concern, but for the record, I do enjoy the message boards.

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fate

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RE: No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 11:20:29 AM

kc692

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Oumae

quote:

ORIGINAL: Gemeni

My own profile is very minimal,since I prefer to avoid the "shoeboxing" crowd.

I'm a person-not a shopping list.

I don't find someone not having much on their profile rude or insulting but then again I have very little on mine. Gemeni put it perfectly for me, I prefer to converse with people and not be a list. I do not see how that makes me less sincere ... maybe more private but thats my choice to make.

quote:

quote]ORIGINAL: sudja

1. The term "subbie" is insulting, and I find that those who use it generally do not understand that a submissive is as valuable as a Dominant. The power may be different as between a paired couple, but the inherent value of the people is not.

I use the term "subbie" sometimes and it is in no way intended as an insult...It is a term of endearment. If a sub of mine disliked the term I would take their feelings into consideration but then again they hear the tone of my voice on saying it and none have complained.

Oumae

Oumae, I think sudja took offense because the term "subbie" was used at large about all submissives in the OPs post. It is certainly different when they are your submissives, and it is more of a term of endearment. In all honesty, I am not a fan of the term myself, to address the whole submissive population...after all, why not slaveys? The term, IMHO, when used to describe a group at large tends to have condescending tones.

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RE: No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 11:38:34 AM

sudja

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Oumae

I use the term "subbie" sometimes and it is in no way intended as an insult...It is a term of endearment. If a sub of mine disliked the term I would take their feelings into consideration but then again they hear the tone of my voice on saying it and none have complained.

Perhaps not intended as such, but I find it inherently belittling (other than as between two people, a term of endearment).

I suspect that most of the Dominants here would take umbrage, and rightly so, if I constantly used the term "Dommie" in reference to them globally. No?

sudja

< Message edited by sudja -- 7/3/2005 11:39:40 AM >

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RE: No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 12:49:59 PM

GoddessDustyGold

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I personally chose to put quite a bit of informaiton regarding what I am seeking in My profile. that was My choice. Perhaps I am too blunt, but I have My reasons, and it does work, to a certain extent. I also state clearly that I will check a profile if I receive an email asking for consideration as a live-in or live-out. So I specify that I would like to see something written in the profile or something reasonable in an introductory letter.
But since I am not browsing Myself, another thing I state clearly, and it is up to the boy to contact Me, I don't really care if he has anything written in his profile or not. What I do care about is seeing nothing in a profile, and then a one or two line email asking to serve and saying "able to relocate now". It gives Me nothing to go on. If there is a reason that a boy does not want to give written information in the profile format, or post a picture, I'm okay with it, provided he is willing to give Me that reasonable information in the initial email and send along the photo I request.
So it is only annoying to Me when I am put into the postion of having to ask for information that I have already asked for in My profile. I am not looking for online relationships, cyber time, or casual play partners. That's the part that most of them seem to want to ignore. But that is simply the way of the internet. So, if I *was* browsing and I see nothing there, I would simply move on.

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RE: No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 1:03:16 PM

nonuts4thshoney

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i dont think it matters whether or not someone has a profile or not. People are on this site for different reasons. if you are looking then obviously the one without a profile just skip on over it, it has no profile for a reason. in my opinion. If someone really is looking then i am sure they'd provide all that they know to provide in their profiles. Some just may not know what to say. If you have interests in one just send them an email and ask them to elaborate a little more. There are alot of inexperienced ones on this site.

i however, love reading profiles though. i like to read what people write about themselves. i remember in one of the threads someone wrote (can't remember who) that it would be nice if people wrote more about themselves than just about the lifestyle. So.....i went and added some of my vanilla interests. i thought it was a good idea. Now people know i love motown and have a retarded CatDog. LOL!!

i don't find "subbie" insulting at all. i find it rather cute in my opinion. i'll make that my next logo tank top. "subbie" across my chest with a feather duster underneath.

-carolyn

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RE: No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 1:22:34 PM

esclava

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I would prefer that other users create profiles. Even if they are not seeking they can just write that into their profile. Its frustrating to speak to someone especially in the chat room and have no idea who you are chatting with.

esclava

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RE: No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 1:27:12 PM

Kinkypupper

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Not putting in a complete profile and word about ones self just sohw me how little they are interested in finding a "partner" at all.
Some put in blank profiles in some groups I am sure as a 2nd or 3rd "ad" .
If they cannot post a picture and a description then they are also probably not "real"

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RE: No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 1:32:10 PM

sudja

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kinkypupper

Not putting in a complete profile and word about ones self just sohw me how little they are interested in finding a "partner" at all.
Some put in blank profiles in some groups I am sure as a 2nd or 3rd "ad" .
If they cannot post a picture and a description then they are also probably not "real"

There could be a lot of reasons folks choose not to post pictures, not being "out" being one that quickly comes to mind.

sudja

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RE: No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 1:54:52 PM

Gauge

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyDezire

My question is to the slaves and subbies, but I would also appreacate some feed back from other Dominants....Why bother putting your name on here searching for a Dominant if you are not willing to at least write a paragraph about who you are and what you seek?
If you are to lazy to provide a little bit about yourself to show your sincerity, then how can you expect a Dominant of any worth to be interested in you. That is just as bad as the one line emails. Remember, first impressions are lasting impressions. If you can't write an intelligent email, consisting of more then one line, please don't waste my time or that of other Dominants, if we wanted dimwits we would advertise for them. But since I and other Dominants I know don't subscribe to dimwits.com that is not going to happen....LOL....but seriously, I feel if I took the time to provide a thorough profile, show a little respect and at least reply with some relevent information......your thoughts??

I don't see a blank profile as an insult or lacking respect. There are some that would rather not post information about themselves. This is their right.

As far as the one line emails go, if it offends you, don't respond to them. I have written one line emails before to submissives just to tell them that I found their picture attractive or that I liked something in their profile. I am in no way lazy or is it indicative that I am a dimwit. I have spent time on another site writing elaborate emails entailing information about myself and what I found about their ads to be attractive only to have them not responded to. Not even a "thanks but I am not interested." If my brevity in an email is thought to be lazy then there is nothing I can do to prevent that perception of me. When I meet people in real life, I do not start out with what I am seeking in a mate or tell them details about me. I start with a "Hello" nothing more.

The issue with the usage of the word "subbie" in a general context might be found insulting because it can be viewed as a term of endearment. I don't care for the term too much myself but I could see it used if it were my submissive that I was addressing but not as a generalization. Perhaps it is semantics but to some it obviously matters.

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RE: No Profile on Ads - Annoying or Not? - 7/3/2005 2:36:42 PM

darkinshadows

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quote:

Quote:LadyDezire
My question is to the slaves and subbies,

quote:

Quote: sudja
1. The term "subbie" is insulting, and I find that those who use it generally do not understand that a submissive is as valuable as a Dominant. The power may be different as between a paired couple, but the inherent value of the people is not.

quote:

I use the term "subbie" sometimes and it is in no way intended as an insult...It is a term of endearment. If a sub of mine disliked the term I would take their feelings into consideration but then again they hear the tone of my voice on saying it and none have complained.

Oumae

I agree with sudji in a way with sudji and Oumae - I come in the middle -

The term 'subbie' I do find a little 'insulting' when it comes from someone I do not know. If someone whom is fond of me, or I admire uses this word, then it is affectionate - familier - and a term of endearment as Oumae suggested.

I am, after all, not any less a person, not in diapers, and not some schoolgirl(lol - unless Demon has it on His mind) - I am first and foremost - a submissive woman.

I think when using it to submissives as a whole, the word subbie is about as respectful and attractive as if a I was to approach dominants as - dommykins.

It's why I haven't replied to the OPs actual question. Not that it would be the greatest loss in the world not to hear my view...

Peace and Love

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