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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 6:34:23 AM   
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Our fair-weathered sub here is learning the painful reality of the fem domme world, and I daresay he doesn't like it.


Whats that?

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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 6:42:14 AM   
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highshadow,

I don't have positive feedback for you, because I don't know you and we haven't interacted.  I can offer you observations and questions.  You seem to be looking for submission within a relationship (you want to be able to love someone).  Starting a D/s relationship is more similar than dissimilar from starting a "regular" relationship.  It starts with catching someone's interest, seeing what you have in common, finding someone with similarities.  When I'm getting to know a submissive, there is a structure of D/s in the interaction, but very little talk of D/s.  Mostly we talk about other parts of our lives.  I'm attracted to his wit, his kindness, his (fill in the blank).  I mention this because, as Akasha stated, lots of men want to get right to the D/s discussion and that feels false and overly intimate and is a turn off.  Is this something that you do?  (trying not to criticize!).

I do tend to look askance at men who have primarily been with prodommes.  My concern is that they may be dependent of the trappings of the pro, even when saying that's what they don't want.  I don't have lots of toys, equipment, sexy costumes.  I am not dominant all the time.  I don't always want to beat someone, tell him what to do ... etc.  It's exhilerating to scene (which is what's happening with a pro); can you handle the doldrums that happen when you're dealing with a person?  When you're relationship is focused on more than fantasy?  I have difficulty with this integration myself, but previous experience with clients of pros is that they can be unaware of their assumptions and sense of priviledge when meeting with someone they aren't paying.   Again, not criticism but food for thought.

As to your statement that all submissives want to make women happy, that is not a given.  There are lots of ways people approach their kink here, and CM only gives options for submissive, dominant or switch.  Frankly, I am thrilled when a man gets in touch who is submissive and sees love and regard as part of the package.  It's fairly rare on the other side.

There are a number of women who want something different than a cash payment, but they are hard to please in other ways.  They want you to be interesting, bring your whole self into the interaction, pay attention to details, be looking for the same thing that they are looking for (i.e. be compatible).  Guess what?  They have probably been looking for quite a while, too.  (smiling)

I liked your rambly post on this thread.  You exposed yourself, more than you did on your profile, and I appreciate that.

MSS


Absolutely!  If interested in someone I dont think I would want to get down on my knees and kiss their feet off the bat, on the sexual level I find it initially much better to excersice the normal patterns of sexual chemistry such as eye contact, smiling, holding and getting to know each other then the BDSM stuff comes later or whenever its appropriate between us.

With regards to male submissives who are instantly in "slave mode" I think that could be partly down to that they have been pent up about this desire as it has been repressed and it starts to spill out too much?! Ironically having spoken to some women who where not in the scene and Dommes, women who had had this desire all their lives yet could not come out with it for fear of x boyfreinds reaction etc.  They will talk about nothing but Female Domination and kinky acts and I think this is probably down to similar reasoning.  It doesnt offend me I just find it interesting.

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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 6:43:08 AM   
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I'm not doing so hot either. Not sure what the problem is. 

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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 6:45:28 AM   
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With regards to male submissives who are instantly in "slave mode" I think that could be partly down to that they have been pent up about this desire as it has been repressed and it starts to spill out too much?!


FM definitely has a point. I'm extremely repressed sexually.

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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 6:49:36 AM   
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I'm not doing so hot either. Not sure what the problem is. 




I wouldnt worry too much, you need to get a feel for it really and look at all avenues.  You have only been on this site for 1 month now according to your profile.

I thought I would chip in there before someone comes along and says something like "Oh your such a whiny bitch, fill in your profile and stop whinging!" which is quite common nowadays it seems.

Best of luck, in the states there are more Dommes than in the UK.

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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 6:51:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FitnessModel

With regards to male submissives who are instantly in "slave mode" I think that could be partly down to that they have been pent up about this desire as it has been repressed and it starts to spill out too much?!


FM definitely has a point. I'm extremely repressed sexually.




If this is sense of humour then I think you are in relatively better stead of finding someone.

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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 6:57:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FitnessModel

With regards to male submissives who are instantly in "slave mode" I think that could be partly down to that they have been pent up about this desire as it has been repressed and it starts to spill out too much?!


FM definitely has a point. I'm extremely repressed sexually.




If this is sense of humour then I think you are in relatively better stead of finding someone.


I wish it were humor. : /

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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 7:06:39 AM   
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So hard to find a Mistress???  How about finding a sub.  It is hard to find anyone I think.   When we go and actively search for someone, we find lots of people who don't fit what we need.  In the D/s community, it is easy to find someone to play with, but not someone who is looking for long term. 

What I have found in my search is that some subs will express themselves in a single dimention.  "i'm just a subbie and You must mold me into what You want me to become."  Well that's a load of BS!!  When I am looking for a subbie, I am looking for someone who understand him or herself and is strong in their understanding.  I am not looking for someone who is interested in another from whom to to create an outside reason for strength.

Had a subbie one time who felt that the only strength was created by Me.  Sorry, it doesn't work that way.  Be confident in who you are.  Embrase who you are.  Honor yourself as you are.  Look for a Dominant who will enhance that, not create it for you. 

JMHO!!!

Elizabeth

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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 7:10:54 AM   
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So hard to find a Mistress???  How about finding a sub.  It is hard to find anyone I think.   When we go and actively search for someone, we find lots of people who don't fit what we need.  In the D/s community, it is easy to find someone to play with, but not someone who is looking for long term. 

What I have found in my search is that some subs will express themselves in a single dimention.  "i'm just a subbie and You must mold me into what You want me to become."  Well that's a load of BS!!  When I am looking for a subbie, I am looking for someone who understand him or herself and is strong in their understanding.  I am not looking for someone who is interested in another from whom to to create an outside reason for strength.

Had a subbie one time who felt that the only strength was created by Me.  Sorry, it doesn't work that way.  Be confident in who you are.  Embrase who you are.  Honor yourself as you are.  Look for a Dominant who will enhance that, not create it for you. 

JMHO!!!

Elizabeth



Hmm, good point. Being too one dimensional is never good.

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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 7:28:42 AM   
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Maybe that was my fault. He sent me a couple of whiney, bitching messages and I KINDLY, yes I was nice the first time, tried to put him on the right path. The second time I wasn't so nice. He basically wanted to know why Dommes can pick and choose and male subs can't and why doesn't anyone love him. Oh well, my work here is done...................................................


Oh my, the dreaded 'why do dommes get to pick and choose' question.  I think women, in general, and at least in the Western world, get to choose the relationship all the time.  Why?  Damnifiknow. That's just how it is.  Men, for the post part, are the ones who are tasked to pursue their partner, and women, for the most part, can pick and choose amongst their suitors till they find the one that they want.  Women can do the pursuit thing as well, but usually its much more indirect.  At least that's been my observation to date

Our fair-weathered sub here is learning the painful reality of the fem domme world, and I daresay he doesn't like it.  Perhaps he is honestly frustrated and confused, and his feelings and desires are not under control.  I suppose we all can feel like that at one time or another.  I know that I have felt the same things as he has, and at times the emotions have been overwhelming.  Things like that happen, I write them down in a journal, or I just shut all feelings off and walk away until I have control again.  Perhaps our frustrated friend is doing the latter and may reappear shortly under another handle.  Hopefully he will do some research first, and at least read this old thread to learn something about his search.



Actually there are some very liberated countries such as Iceland, Sweden (I think?), Holland or Germany in which women are more foreward and approach men.  Often these countries have a generally more liberated approach to sex.  I dont believe that women approaching men is a form of female disempowerment, I think it works both ways and I would argue that women reaching out and "clubbing a man over the head then bagging him" could even be empowering for women so long as of course the man is respectfull towards her as is true of all sides of any coin.  I even once read an article about how in one of these countries there was a training course for women to not be as overwhelming and foreward upon men to learn better how to date. Suprisinlgy there are a lot of women in the UK that approach men but not as many, I think that this correlates to the more repressed and confused attitudes in UK society towards sex such as how you are a mug if you dont lose your virginity as soon as possible or all these teenage pregnancies.

Compared the the West in some parts of the East women are treated badly, being set up with a man and having no choice in the matter for instance.  In this instance it is the man that is approaching the woman while the woman is the obtained commodity but the nature in which it is done is actually quite disempowering for women.  Personally I wouldnt put down who has more power than who based on who approaches who, I think it somewhat more complex than that an not as black and white.


I never attributed to women that they are disempowering theirselves by doing the approaching.  Where did you get that idea?  I spoke in general terms because it was a general statement - "in general" is what I said.  I meant that.  And yes, I specified the West specifically because there are many societies where women have far fewer rights (or none) than they do in the West.

The power in any relationship is the power to say yes or no.  It's not that women cannot do the chasing, but I think (again I use Western examples) they prefer to be chased.  And many men prefer to be the ones doing the chasing.  So in general, it seems to work out.  Of course you are always going to find everyone grouped in the middle/norm.  There are going to be those who fall outside the norm, who have different views and requirements of their relationships.

I couched my entire statement to take into account that it was definitely NOT meant to be universally applied, ergo it is about as gray as you can get.

I think for the most part the rules of the society that you are brought up in shape your outlook and beliefs.  When you become an adult, or you change societies (i.e. move), there is a higher liklihood of you questioning the norm, and trying to define what your personal rules should be.  And in any society there are those that buck the system.  Whether they do it in public or private depends upon where and how they are able to express themselves.

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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 7:30:33 AM   
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Our fair-weathered sub here is learning the painful reality of the fem domme world, and I daresay he doesn't like it.


Whats that?



That there are more male subs than female dommes, and that the women have the luxury of being selective with whom they associate and spend time with.

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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 8:24:42 AM   
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My age is shaping up to be a problem for me. I've been turned down because of my age several times. Meh, and with women its the young ones who are in demand.

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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 8:26:21 AM   
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Our fair-weathered sub here is learning the painful reality of the fem domme world, and I daresay he doesn't like it.


Whats that?



That there are more male subs than female dommes, and that the women have the luxury of being selective with whom they associate and spend time with.


Sounds just like dating in the vanilla world

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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 9:03:51 AM   
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I'm really starting to feel like my age is prohibitive now. I wish I were a couple years older. 

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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 9:07:38 AM   
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You haven't been on the site that long and you're already asking why it's so hard to find a Mistress? Do you think it's an instant thing?
You might want to rethink and read a LOT of posts before you ask the question.
For Me personally (apart from being in another country, LOL), you're whole profile is about ME ME ME and not enough YOU YOU YOU. What are you offering?

Good luck!!


i agree, i've been on here a few years and am still unowned.


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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 11:22:50 AM   
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I'm really starting to feel like my age is prohibitive now. I wish I were a couple years older. 
Don't worry too much about your age.   Live well, learn lots, and before you know it you'll be asking "what happened to my youthful looks, and seemingly invinvible/relatively tight bod?"   

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i agree, i've been on here a few years and am still unowned.
As you very well know, your situation is not even close to as simple as you present it here, and that probably has a great deal to do with why you're unowned.    M

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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 8:55:17 PM   
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Maybe that was my fault. He sent me a couple of whiney, bitching messages and I KINDLY, yes I was nice the first time, tried to put him on the right path. The second time I wasn't so nice. He basically wanted to know why Dommes can pick and choose and male subs can't and why doesn't anyone love him. Oh well, my work here is done...................................................



That kind of message may come across as pathetic indeed but I wouldnt neccesserily interpret him as being intentionally insulting.  It wouldnt neccesserily mean he is looking for you to be his Domme either, I might be wrong but it just looks to me like he was looking for a bit of councelling?  From where I stand this is not something that I would percieve as insulting but thats just the way I am.  At worst I may not have the time to help him but I dont think I would go out of my way to incite further nuerosis.

Oumea mentioned earlier that his 2nd post was heartfelt so it would appear that she sees some kind of value in him.  Its a shame he has dissapeared now not that I can blame him that much. 


Oh, My sincere apologies fitnessmodel, I didn't realise I had passed on his messages so that you could make a judgement on what I said in replies to him. I will check in with you in future, before I ever respond to a rude email again, since I am clearly not as bright and as psychic as you.

Hightower, I thank you for your apology and of course, wish you all the very best.

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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 9:32:48 PM   
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I'm really starting to feel like my age is prohibitive now. I wish I were a couple years older. 



I suspect that what some may have been trying to convey to you, is that it's not so much age as it is maturity.  In order to be more than one-dimensional, as was mentioned earlier in this thread, one must have spent some time learning about life along with the things which they appreciate or find an interest in that inspires them.  Most Dommes don't just want a "toy" to play with, they also want a partner to converse with who can share their interests; someone who has a sense of who they are as a man and where they wish to go in life.  That's where being "too young" can be a distinct advantage in that quite often one may not have experienced enough of what life has to offer to sort these kinds of things out and to spend the amount of time looking inward to needed to discover who they really are.
 
I hope this gives you something to think about that might be of use to you.
 
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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 9:44:03 PM   
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I'm really starting to feel like my age is prohibitive now. I wish I were a couple years older. 
Don't worry too much about your age.   Live well, learn lots, and before you know it you'll be asking "what happened to my youthful looks, and seemingly invinvible/relatively tight bod?"   

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ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia
i agree, i've been on here a few years and am still unowned.
As you very well know, your situation is not even close to as simple as you present it here, and that probably has a great deal to do with why you're unowned.    M


it's not any more complicated as a married person...but hey...i'm learning to live with it. at least i'm up front about everything and am not hiding anything from gf or anyone here.

and now, back to silly mode...it's alot of fun

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RE: Why is it so hard to find a Mistress? - 8/15/2007 10:13:02 PM   
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I'm really starting to feel like my age is prohibitive now. I wish I were a couple years older. 


As someone who is now hundreds of years old, I can say that having more age has not attributed to my wonderfulness in any way.


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