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LuckyAlbatross -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 12:02:12 PM)
FR Prevention is always better than cleaning up the mess. Sometime you gotta throttle way down and micromanage and eliminate all the issues to get to the root and then over time give some slack as behavior and mindset becoms retrained. I also agree with Beach- perhaps just 2 minutes of a morning after ritual together would be enough to get things snapped back into focus like they need to be.

PONYSEEKER -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 12:20:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: favesclava i can be bratty, Master's solution to bratty girls is to send them on their way and restrict communication for a while. this was stated before the problem arised. i have not been bratty. i behave even when i want to put my fist through a wall. i just take a deep breath and talk about it. i dont get in trouble for my feelings i would get in trouble if i acted on them. edited to add : i made it to perverted. and if my pics were back you would see it is so true LOL not at all. Its interesting to see how you recognise and control it.

PONYSEEKER -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 12:23:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross FR Prevention is always better than cleaning up the mess. Sometime you gotta throttle way down and micromanage and eliminate all the issues to get to the root and then over time give some slack as behavior and mindset becoms retrained. I also agree with Beach- perhaps just 2 minutes of a morning after ritual together would be enough to get things snapped back into focus like they need to be. Yes, I can tell by all the feedback (all very excellent and is showing me a lot of different perspectives on it) the problem is most likely not what she is doing but what I am not doing that I should be.

MHOO314 -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 12:26:10 PM)
*are you sure she isn't a man?* *ok ok I had to...*

BeachMystress -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 12:30:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER Yes, I can tell by all the feedback (all very excellent and is showing me a lot of different perspectives on it) the problem is most likely not what she is doing but what I am not doing that I should be. Why ever the problem exists- who ever is doing or not doing- it needs to be fixed. There is a snag in your otherwise good relationship and it is going to take work. Forget blame, it's useless; just fix it. [sm=smile.gif]

Grlwithboy -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 12:40:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER The main problem is that she actually leaves the dynamic or rebels against it for the day... but just for the day. I've been married to my husband for three years. Thank God there's the day after tomorrow. I don't like to sweat the small stuff. Perfect obedience, to me, is the sum of the parts, and some days are harder than others. If he's back on track most of the time, but has to swing his dick for a few hours to feel safe, I really don't care.

PONYSEEKER -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 12:44:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MHOO314 *are you sure she isn't a man?* *ok ok I had to...* LOL no she isnt I inspected all of her parts although sometimes I wonder if she dosnt sneak out and play one on tv at times...LOL She was bitching about chores and I actually offered her a house boy and she turned it down... I was rather shocked at the silly girl.

AquaticSub -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 12:57:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER quote: ORIGINAL: MHOO314 *are you sure she isn't a man?* *ok ok I had to...* LOL no she isnt I inspected all of her parts although sometimes I wonder if she dosnt sneak out and play one on tv at times...LOL She was bitching about chores and I actually offered her a house boy and she turned it down... I was rather shocked at the silly girl. Damn. I keep asking Valyraen if we can pick one up. [:D]

Celeste43 -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 2:34:44 PM)
Morning after spanking? Or perhaps start stroking her the next morning and don't finish. Since she's well behaved when horny, just keep her that way. He'll occasionally wake up and start playing with me and then stop knowing I'll be crazed all day.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 2:39:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Celeste43 Morning after spanking? Or perhaps start stroking her the next morning and don't finish. Since she's well behaved when horny, just keep her that way. He'll occasionally wake up and start playing with me and then stop knowing I'll be crazed all day. Unfortunately in this case it's giving a reward and positive encouragement in response to a behavior you want to stop. What needs to happen is for the sub to recognize the behavior as wrong and learn to stop it before it gets going. Now, there's nothing wrong with the dom helping out in that if he can or wants to- but the response to a sub bratting shouldn't necessarily be "well just make her feel good and give her what she wants."

domiguy -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 2:42:18 PM)
I hate once again to be the voice of reason....It is apparent that this is pretty much a sexual thing for her and she really isn't into the dynamic....Yeah when she wants a good ramming she's all bunnies and honey....Then when satisfied she becomes a warthog from Hell....She isn't into D/s she is into the kinky and power aspect of sex....You wanted a fuck toy....You got one...And like many toys they are only fun when being played with.

MsBearlee -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 2:57:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER In mt 24/7 D/S dynamic life is perfect. If I want a cup of coffee boom there it is. Need a back rub boom there it is. Sure I have to devote 100% of my free time in attention and managment but for the most part life is good. Last night I cuddled up to my fucktoy gave her a big O and then went to sleep peacfully. At the time I didnt need any kind of satisfaction I just wanted to hear her O and feel the death grip of those hips while snuggled into a soft set of buns and then damn did I wake up to a brat this morning. This happens every time I get her off its like insta brat in the morning... I get so frustrated I have to compleatly restrain myself in fear that I will lose control of my own emotions and actually hurt her. Does anyone else run into this problem and if so how do you deal with it. She is the perfect pet as long as shes horny as soon as she gets off its bratty for about three days! It drives me nuts! Christ, this sounds EXACTLY like a guy I know. Sweet as can be........as long as he's in his Chastity Belt. Let him cum and it takes WEEKS to get him back to that lovely headspace! Even HE knows this...told me all about it. <sigh> The sad thing is, he actually prefers the feelings engendered by lack of O. I'm with you, I'd sometimes LIKE to enjoy watching or even giving him one. I don't know what to tell you. I had no idea women were like this. What's her testosterone level? I wonder if that has anything to do with it? (and now I'll go read all the responses you've gotten so far.) B

MsBearlee -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 3:04:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER She relises that I am odd in the sense that sometimes my pleasure is simply enjoing the feeling of her pleasure and that sometimes I want to see her cum without me cumming.... its extended from an oral fetish I have.... I am satisfied often by just eating a woman and nothing more or just getting a woman off and nothing more. Its weird but it actually makes for a lot of fun and a lot less presure. She realizes you're ODD? What the heck is 'odd' about enjoying pleasuring your partner? I believe D/s is a win/win kinda thing; as are all relationships (regardless of the dynamic...it's gotta be win/win). How old is she? I think sometimes very young women thing 'real men' only fuck. Anyway, the only part I find 'odd' about you is this problem with anger management. I'd work on that, if I were you... B

PONYSEEKER -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 3:09:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy I hate once again to be the voice of reason....It is apparent that this is pretty much a sexual thing for her and she really isn't into the dynamic....Yeah when she wants a good ramming she's all bunnies and honey....Then when satisfied she becomes a warthog from Hell....She isn't into D/s she is into the kinky and power aspect of sex....You wanted a fuck toy....You got one...And like many toys they are only fun when being played with. Atually I have pondered that a lot. I think she is into the 24/7 thing because she is so damn happy that way. If I ignore her for lets say weekend... she dosnt say anything about it but the decline is so damn apparent then I give her one really hard swat on the ass and say good girl and a whole other person comes out... I mean so much so that its really freaky. I think its actually freaky enough so that it even scares her.

PONYSEEKER -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 3:12:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsBearlee quote: ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER She relises that I am odd in the sense that sometimes my pleasure is simply enjoing the feeling of her pleasure and that sometimes I want to see her cum without me cumming.... its extended from an oral fetish I have.... I am satisfied often by just eating a woman and nothing more or just getting a woman off and nothing more. Its weird but it actually makes for a lot of fun and a lot less presure. She realizes you're ODD? What the heck is 'odd' about enjoying pleasuring your partner? I believe D/s is a win/win kinda thing; as are all relationships (regardless of the dynamic...it's gotta be win/win). How old is she? I think sometimes very young women thing 'real men' only fuck. Anyway, the only part I find 'odd' about you is this problem with anger management. I'd work on that, if I were you... B I use to actually have a very bad temper and would blow up at just about anything so I have gotten it so that I dont blow up anymore or stress that much for that matter. I manage it I think in the way that I dont stress after the feelings go away and I dont show it when its happening. It use to be someone would piss me off and I would cut them to shreds now no one gets hurt and I kind of time myself out if I notice the feelings occuring often. I havent lost control so to speak in over 10 years.

PONYSEEKER -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 3:16:14 PM)
Oh also, I am 39 and she is 49 Not sure if that makes a difference or not.

MHOO314 -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 3:47:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER quote: ORIGINAL: MHOO314 *are you sure she isn't a man?* *ok ok I had to...* LOL no she isnt I inspected all of her parts although sometimes I wonder if she dosnt sneak out and play one on tv at times...LOL She was bitching about chores and I actually offered her a house boy and she turned it down... I was rather shocked at the silly girl. *Smiles, well you took that really well----she acts just like men, once they get it then you lose their attention---lol best of luck with this one.*

domiguy -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 3:58:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER Oh also, I am 39 and she is 49 Not sure if that makes a difference or not. It just means that her half life of being sexually appealing is that much shorter..... Captain Kirk:..Mr Scott...Prepare to jettison the aging baggage...It is losing all integrity..... Mr Scott:....Aye Captain.

Mystique567 -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 4:12:10 PM)
I almost want to raise an eyebrow at the rather age discriminating statement

celticlord2112 -> RE: When to back off? --- Morning Brats (8/14/2007 4:24:00 PM)
Have you considered the possibility that she is bratty because she can be? Because you have allowed this dynamic into your relationship? She's "bratty for three days" then she's the perfect submissive. One way to look at this: when she wants to get laid, she's well behaved. After that, and until she needs another O, she's a bitch. To my mind, this is a form of "topping from the bottom"; she is setting the tone and direction of the relationship, not you. Changing that dynamic would be at the heart of anything I would do regarding her brattiness. I suspect that would also relieve you of your frustration, as you would be dealing with the problem instead of merely tolerating it.

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