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RE: Vanilla-Pure, or Experience-Rich? - 8/16/2007 10:17:19 AM   
Celeste43


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Status: offline 		Neither, it's all about compatibility. There are inexperienced types I would be compatible with and experienced ones whom I wouldn't be.

And for what it's worth, not all chocolate is the same. I'm not going to say that because I love dark chocolate therefore I would be willing to be restricted to just milk chocolate from then on. Flavors, like people, are multi-faceted.

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RE: Vanilla-Pure, or Experience-Rich? - 8/16/2007 10:23:57 AM   
Padriag


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Status: offline 		Exactly Celeste, its absolutely about compatability.  A girl might be very experienced in lots of things, but if they are all things I'm not interested in or things I don't like then her experience is of no help at all.  On the otherhand, if she were experienced in the same things as me, things I am interested in, that's a plus.  But what we are really talking about here isn't experience, its compatability, shared interests and goals.  Before I said I wanted someone sincere, serious, and stable... because I am... I want someone with the same goals about a relationship as me... again it comes down to compatability.  Someone else may not give a fig about being serious or stable, because someone else might not be looking for that... different goals, different kinds of compatability.

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RE: Vanilla-Pure, or Experience-Rich? - 8/16/2007 10:43:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

You and my mother...


Hehe, well your Mom has good taste!

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RE: Vanilla-Pure, or Experience-Rich? - 8/16/2007 2:32:49 PM   
Vampyrefledgling


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Status: offline 		Speaking as a submissive, the answer for me is chocolate. I would prefer a Dom who knows what he wants and knows how to get that out of me. He would also know about common misconceptions and myths concerning the lifestyle and be able to inform me about them and not expect anything like that from me (i.e. that the lifestyle is only about sex, etc). Plus, he might have more patience with me. He knows that it takes time to create trust, he understands how important it is for the Dom to take care of the sub, for the sub to feel safe before the play can really take place.

However, a French Vanilla (a little more experienced than pure vanilla) Dom might be okay as well. Not too much experience so that he and I could try a lot of things together, but not so little experience that I risk being hurt by his experiments.

~Fledgling

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RE: Vanilla-Pure, or Experience-Rich? - 8/16/2007 3:20:56 PM   
littlebitxxx


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Status: offline 		Dark and decadent bittersweet chocolate with a vanilla swirl and peanut butter centre, topped with caramel fudge and candy sprinkles.  Hold the cherry.

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RE: Vanilla-Pure, or Experience-Rich? - 8/16/2007 3:24:19 PM   
DiurnalVampire


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Status: offline 		I prefer the blank slate, not starting a vanilla, but starting someone who has leanings toward the lifestyle, but hasnt had quite the experience they need to be considered "seasoned" I dont want someone completely canilla who has never even heard of half of what I might like, but I dont want someone who has been thgrough everything and has no firsts left for me.

Think more like Vanilla with chocolate chips. yeah

now im hungry dammit

DV

PS littlebit.. the cherry can be the best part!


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RE: Vanilla-Pure, or Experience-Rich? - 8/16/2007 9:31:27 PM   
MasterGremlin


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ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt

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ORIGINAL: MasterGremlin

I guess I just don't see it as a "conversion", just like I don't really see it as a "lifestyle".  
For me it just isn't a choice, you either are or aren't and I am and always have been submissive.  I wasn't always "aware" of what I am, which caused alot of confusion and mental anguish in my life as I spent alot of time trying to be something I wasn't.   But just like you can't "convert" someone from being heterosexual to being homosexual (or vice versa), I don't think you can "convert" someone who isn't truely D/s or BDSM from being vanilla. 
But then I also have some difficulty understanding how some people here can talk about their "vanilla" life as opposed to their BDSM life as I see myself as always being D/s BDSM all the time.  I may not talk about it or project it to everyone (mostly because it isn't any of their business) but I never stop being who I am. 

Cordially,
minxy


Your make your point quite well.  I'll extend my metaphor a bit further, though, and ask this:  What was that one thing you tasted that you didn't know you loved, or could love, until you tasted it?  For me, sashemi.  Never thought I would like it, now consider it food of the Gods (my people!).

Granted, food and sex aren't interchangeable (or I'd be one fat guy) but do you see what I mean?  I have found those who simply had never tasted, didn't know... until shown.


While I can see your analogy being attributed to say certain "acts", like say never having tried wax play and then doing so and loving it, I can't see it as being likened to D/s or BDSM as a whole. 

I think you simpley can't make someone into something they aren't. 

I have been sitting here trying to think of an analogy that might better express it, but quite frankly, everything I have typed just sounds dorky

Maybe another day to think about it or another glass of wine....

Cordially,
minxy


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RE: Vanilla-Pure, or Experience-Rich? - 8/16/2007 9:55:46 PM   
LaMistressa


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Status: offline 		I'd have to go with experience-rich. I'm just too lazy to deal with vanilla these days. 

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RE: Vanilla-Pure, or Experience-Rich? - 8/16/2007 10:00:04 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		Actually, I kinda like pussy.

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RE: Vanilla-Pure, or Experience-Rich? - 8/16/2007 10:36:56 PM   
Tannie


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Status: offline 		If I had to choose between either extreme, I would rather starve.  lol

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RE: Vanilla-Pure, or Experience-Rich? - 8/17/2007 5:41:44 AM   
biracalsub4wmDom


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Status: offline 		When thinking about the type of  Dom I would like to be with, it is definately chocolate swirl.  Chocolate, because being brand spankin new myself, I want someone who is experienced, and knows what they are doing so I can learn from them.  I say "swirl" because I like someone who has a little vanilla in them, or at least can function well in the vanilla world because I really enjoy doing a lot of vanilla things....  (Actual dates, movies, parties, etc...)...and all of my friends & family are vanilla so I would want him to be able to fit into that life as well.  So I guess I didn't really make a choice did I.  hmmmm....oh well, next question.....

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RE: Vanilla-Pure, or Experience-Rich? - 8/17/2007 5:49:08 AM   
MasterGremlin


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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Actually, I kinda like pussy.


They have that flavor of icecream?

Sincerely,
minxy

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RE: Vanilla-Pure, or Experience-Rich? - 8/17/2007 8:37:14 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		Ummm...ask Gremlin.

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterGremlin

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Actually, I kinda like pussy.


They have that flavor of icecream?

Sincerely,
minxy

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