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SweetDommes -> RE: Being a slut (7/7/2005 8:14:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

It's fine, GoddessDustyGold, you bring up the same inconsistencies I would have. I think he needs to seriously think about better articulating his own needs and desires, because they shift constantly it seems. Sadly I think he will be back with a new profile in a month or so, bitter and slamming all femdoms because of his own inability to connect.

Akasha


Oh, but you can't bring up his inconsistancies even though it would help his chances of finding a compatable Domme ... because even though he complains that he can't find a "real" one that he can connect with, he doesn't need any help *rolls eyes*

And back on topic - I have no problem with a sub being our slut, but if someone advertises himself as a slut/male whore/whatever ... not a turnon. If it's presented in a manner like "I want to be a slut for my Mistress" or something like that, then it's definitely more acceptable, but just the general slut ... nah, I like my plumbing uncontaminated, and a true slut comes with too many risks.




EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Being a slut (7/8/2005 5:17:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SweetDommes
but just the general slut ... nah, I like my plumbing uncontaminated, and a true slut comes with too many risks.

I can understand your concerns and completely respect your choice. After all, I feel pretty much the same way about a smoker.

But as I am a general/true slut, with uncontaminated plumbing, there are many benefits involved as well.




onceburned -> RE: Being a slut (7/8/2005 6:37:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2
But as I am a general/true slut, with uncontaminated plumbing, there are many benefits involved as well.


I wonder if there is a difference between sluttiness in men and in women? Men are expected to have sex, to seek it out whereever possible. But our culture still frowns on overt female sexuality.

Consentually granting slut status to a female submissive is a way of lifting the cultural taboo against open female sexuality. But it doesn't seem to do the same for men. I am not even sure what a 'male slut' refers to - what behaviors and attitudes? How does it differ from the typical status of men on the prowl for sex?




lonewolf05 -> RE: Being a slut (7/8/2005 1:29:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold


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ORIGINAL: lonewolf05

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The whole instant slut, instant whore, instant groveling man is a turn off for me. I like the process of making him submit to my wishes.
Akasha


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instant slut? the it would seem You are not ready for an experienced one then. some of us, are lifestyle experinced and ready to please at a whim. it sounds as if You need to start training ffrom scratch if i read correctly.

and good luck to You.
i am sure, a Woman of Your standing will find Hers.

the wolf
7 days to go.........wheeeeeeeeeeee



lonewolf 05,
Could you clear something up for Me? Because I am getting rather confused by your posts.
*******first thing here is, don't try to understand. just accept.



I have followed your tidbits for some time now, and through several different personnas.
you consistently claim to be self-celibate.

*****yeah? and?

you ask many questions about things you do not understand or have never heard of in spite of the fact that you say you have been active in this lifestyle for several years. you say you are service only, and expect no sexual gratification.

********yeah? so?

you told us at one point, under another recent personna that you were a sissy taking natural hormones on your own, without a doctor's supervision.

********i WAS, yeah.
you insist you are a slave,

******and?

yet in a very recent thread you questioned the idea of female supremacy (something you always list as an interest on your various collarme profiles) and said that you had been raised in a blue collar family where the man always wore the pants and you were taught to never kneel for anyone.

**********in a paternal VANILLA life that IS correct.


And that opinion was offered wth quite a bit of contempt.

********just like i told the ignorant judge. contempt of court! shit dude, i had contempt before i put my socks on this morning. why is that a problem? i hate your guts!

And now you say "...some of us, are lifestyle experienced and ready to please at a whim."
Since this thread is about the sexual side of a male slut and whore, we are discussing that aspect. I have to draw the conclusion that you are using the universal form of "us", as you could not be referring to yourself.

**********ehhhhhhh! wrong answer! never ever conclude anything without asking me FIRST!


No, you did not read it right. It is not that Aakasha is *not ready* for an experienced male slut. She does not want one. It is not that She "needs to start training from scratch. She prefers that process so the boy will become the slut whore that She wants.
I am sure a Woman of Aakasha's *standing* finds all the boys She wants.

I apologize for answering this Aakasha, but I can no longer follow this boy's line of reasoning or continue to ignore his off the cuff remarks that often are completely off base or have little to nothing to do with the discussion.

******ah well such is life huh?

garylee, it is My understanding that you have already been collared by a new Mistress, but you are not meeting Her for another 7 days. I do hope this time things go well for you. I just checked and I see that this latest profile is already MIA.

********it is MIA because SHE told me to. what? should i tell Her YOU want it back?

------

it's THIS simple. do NOT TRY to understand! just accept!
and while You are at it, accept THIS also. i ride an emotional roller coaster. every waking moment of my life. my meds HELP but NOT a cure all.
there IS no cure all, unless i use a 12 gauge. and i KNOW someone here without mentioning names, would be tickled pink if i did.

this is how "I" see life. up down up down.
i go from zero to 10 and back to 6. i never know where i am or why.
and as to the sissy thing i had. i WAS trying to change over. is that a crime now?
i gave it up coz i had a self temper tantrum and got mad at myself.
i suppose someone here has an issue with THAT now!
why in hell can't i be allowed to make 'a' post without someone putting me under a microsope?
can't i just be left alone?
wow people. i don't do it to YOU people. why do you do it to ME?

and as to AAkasha..........grrrrrrrrrrrr
in my not so good jerry lewis ......"hey Ladeeeeeeeeeeeee"
i have to say this. i DO admire You. and IF-----YOU have a personal issue with me? send me a private mail and keep it off these boards?

now? can we get BACK to the discussion?
and to those putting up with this......i didn't do it! these two did it. won't leave me alone.
why me lord? i stay home mind my own business and the world has to play games with me.......



the wolf on the prowl!!!!!!!!!!!!! hungry for the kill!!!!!!!!





lonewolf05 -> RE: Being a slut (7/8/2005 1:37:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: onceburned

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ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2
But as I am a general/true slut, with uncontaminated plumbing, there are many benefits involved as well.


I wonder if there is a difference between sluttiness in men and in women? Men are expected to have sex, to seek it out whereever possible. But our culture still frowns on overt female sexuality.

Consentually granting slut status to a female submissive is a way of lifting the cultural taboo against open female sexuality. But it doesn't seem to do the same for men. I am not even sure what a 'male slut' refers to - what behaviors and attitudes? How does it differ from the typical status of men on the prowl for sex?



yo burned! you're right bro!

the wolf




lonewolf05 -> RE: Being a slut (7/8/2005 1:43:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SweetDommes


quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

It's fine, GoddessDustyGold, you bring up the same inconsistencies I would have. I think he needs to seriously think about better articulating his own needs and desires, because they shift constantly it seems. Sadly I think he will be back with a new profile in a month or so, bitter and slamming all femdoms because of his own inability to connect.

Akasha


Oh, but you can't bring up his inconsistancies even though it would help his chances of finding a compatable Domme ... because even though he complains that he can't find a "real" one that he can connect with, he doesn't need any help *rolls eyes*

And back on topic - I have no problem with a sub being our slut, but if someone advertises himself as a slut/male whore/whatever ... not a turnon. If it's presented in a manner like "I want to be a slut for my Mistress" or something like that, then it's definitely more acceptable, but just the general slut ... nah, I like my plumbing uncontaminated, and a true slut comes with too many risks.




so uh, it's all pretty flowery wording. i fail to grasp this but ah well.
a sub slave has to find THEE PERFECT wording?

sighs

i cannot understand this world.

the wolf




dominmd -> RE: Being a slut (7/8/2005 1:52:16 PM)

I guess men are just refered to as HORNY instead of sluts. Well duh, we are men, of course we are on the prowl. And it would be nice for women to take the lead sometimes. I know there are women that prowl, good. I will cite an example: Men are typically the ones who have to ask a woman out on a date either BDSM or vanilla. But, there are women who will ask a man out first. So what gives here? Men will get burned for asking and many times we are just labeled as a horny pigs. And if women do many will label them as aggresive or as sluts. Personally for me, it shows me that a woman has strength. But I still feel guys get a bum rap.

So if being horny makes me a male slut, so be it.[:D] Personally I have been called way worse things in my life.




GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Being a slut (7/8/2005 2:00:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lonewolf05

garylee, it is My understanding that you have already been collared by a new Mistress, but you are not meeting Her for another 7 days. I do hope this time things go well for you. I just checked and I see that this latest profile is already MIA.

********it is MIA because SHE told me to. what? should i tell Her YOU want it back?

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i have to say this. i DO admire You. and IF-----YOU have a personal issue with me? send me a private mail and keep it off these boards?


garylee, I would hope you have a better sense of Me and would understand that writing to you privately would be My first preference. However, that avenue of communication was cut off when you de-activated your profile. I did not have the ability to click on your name and send you an email.
I certainly respect your Dominant's choice to have you remove your profile. Does She also know you are posting on these boards, and that if anyone wishes to address you or your comments, they would now have to do so in a public manner?
It is between the two of you, but perhaps She is not aware that you are maintaining contact with this community via these forums.
I sincerely wish you every happiness.




lonewolf05 -> RE: Being a slut (7/8/2005 3:12:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

quote:

ORIGINAL: lonewolf05

garylee, it is My understanding that you have already been collared by a new Mistress, but you are not meeting Her for another 7 days. I do hope this time things go well for you. I just checked and I see that this latest profile is already MIA.

********it is MIA because SHE told me to. what? should i tell Her YOU want it back?

------

i have to say this. i DO admire You. and IF-----YOU have a personal issue with me? send me a private mail and keep it off these boards?


garylee, I would hope you have a better sense of Me and would understand that writing to you privately would be My first preference. However, that avenue of communication was cut off when you de-activated your profile. I did not have the ability to click on your name and send you an email.
I certainly respect your Dominant's choice to have you remove your profile. Does She also know you are posting on these boards, and that if anyone wishes to address you or your comments, they would now have to do so in a public manner?

********yep yep not only does She KNOW........i have sent Her MOST of my posts and She finds them quite comical.


It is between the two of you, but perhaps She is not aware that you are maintaining contact with this community via these forums.
I sincerely wish you every happiness.






SweetDommes -> RE: Being a slut (7/8/2005 11:17:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2

I can understand your concerns and completely respect your choice. After all, I feel pretty much the same way about a smoker.

But as I am a general/true slut, with uncontaminated plumbing, there are many benefits involved as well.


Perhaps we have differing definitions of "general/true sluts" - my definition is someone who goes out to a bar/party with the intent of finding someone - anyone - to sleep with, perhaps more than one. And they don't just do this once or twice, they do this weekly/daily. I don't want someone who does not discriminate ... who knows what the other people have and are passing around? Sorry, but that kind of behavior is not safe, nor smart - even with protection, because, as everyone knows, protection is not infallible.




SweetDommes -> RE: Being a slut (7/8/2005 11:19:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lonewolf05

so uh, it's all pretty flowery wording. i fail to grasp this but ah well.
a sub slave has to find THEE PERFECT wording?

sighs

i cannot understand this world.

the wolf




It's not about the wording, exactly, but about the perception and attitudes reflected by the wording. Personally, I don't find it that hard to understand, but put a bit more simply - We want someone who is picky about who they fuck. We don't want someone who fits the definition in my reply to emerald - we want someone who belongs to us and isn't totally casual about who they are fucking.




lonewolf05 -> RE: Being a slut (7/9/2005 4:15:34 AM)

understood cataloged acknowledged filed



'nuff said




CuirAngelMaam -> RE: Being a slut (7/9/2005 7:05:19 AM)

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And back on topic - I have no problem with a sub being our slut, but if someone advertises himself as a slut/male whore/whatever ... not a turnon. If it's presented in a manner like "I want to be a slut for my Mistress" or something like that, then it's definitely more acceptable, but just the general slut ... nah, I like my plumbing uncontaminated, and a true slut comes with too many risks.


Mom was right when she said, "Put that down! You have no idea where it has been!"

So true and consistent with the fantasy over reality of many who seek. Is this not the same as a male with a hard-on walking up to a woman and expecting her to handle it for him? Now if he gets slutty in response to me or attains that hard-on in response to me, that could be attractive and entertaining, especially if things are tied tightly beforehand.

Mistress CuirAngelMaam
I only hurt the ones I love if they have been very good.




GentleLady -> RE: Being a slut (7/10/2005 10:03:29 PM)

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Consentually granting slut status to a female submissive is a way of lifting the cultural taboo against open female sexuality. But it doesn't seem to do the same for men. I am not even sure what a 'male slut' refers to - what behaviors and attitudes? How does it differ from the typical status of men on the prowl for sex?

Blast...and here I thought I was immune to laughing with a mouth full of food....*rolls My eyes*....great time to be eating pea soup !!

btw....I think you are right about the double standard still being alive and kicking

Gentle Lady





Lordandmaster -> RE: Being a slut (7/10/2005 11:13:09 PM)

This thread has now officially caused two snarfs.

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ORIGINAL: GentleLady

Blast...and here I thought I was immune to laughing with a mouth full of food....*rolls My eyes*....great time to be eating pea soup !!





MadameDahlia -> RE: Being a slut (7/11/2005 12:27:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: GentleLady

quote:

Consentually granting slut status to a female submissive is a way of lifting the cultural taboo against open female sexuality. But it doesn't seem to do the same for men. I am not even sure what a 'male slut' refers to - what behaviors and attitudes? How does it differ from the typical status of men on the prowl for sex?

Blast...and here I thought I was immune to laughing with a mouth full of food....*rolls My eyes*....great time to be eating pea soup !!

btw....I think you are right about the double standard still being alive and kicking

Gentle Lady




Anyone else getting visions of her poor head spinning around while she talks in a demonic voice...

... or um... maybe not.




EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Being a slut (7/11/2005 5:13:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: onceburned
But it doesn't seem to do the same for men. I am not even sure what a 'male slut' refers to - what behaviors and attitudes? How does it differ from the typical status of men on the prowl for sex?

For me slut is about ATTITUDE, not actions. A virgin can be a slut. A monogamous married woman can be a slut. I can be a slut even if I don't have any sex at all for 8 months.

It's not about being horny, it's about having an attitude towards sex and sexuality of openness, freedom, joy, the DESIRE to express sexuality in as many ways and means with others as possible, with absolutely no shame or regret, loving the act of sex and the dance of sexuality for its own sake.





cumslutcockwhore -> RE: Being a slut (7/11/2005 5:43:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rewarded321


It seems like sluts are not popular here at all. I wonder why not more Mistresses take any interest in sluts/male whores?



Look at my name.
This is what He calls me, i like the term cause its endearment for Him and i. My profile is inactive cause i am trolled, and i read message boards.

I have learned over the last few weeks that on the CM message boards the word slut or whore means you are a ho.
The word bitch means you are anyones banger and its ok to use it.
Thje word cunt is sweet and endearing and useable.

Unless someone ASKS and doesnt ASSUME, the reader will interpret what He/She wishes of those words and make all sorts of judgements.

Just as the word SLAVE has all kinds of interpretations, so does the words SLUT, BITCH, CUNT, WHORE.

Persoanlly, in my opinion, a human being can call themselves anything they wish.
But if a girl or boy whose name is "kitty johnson" is responded to with the words bitch or slut in a return post, that is unncesssary and uncalled for.

For me, i respond to someone as i do in vanilla.....
so i ask you rewarded, what do you mean by your words slut and whore?

Master only ever uses the word cunt when he finds a girl's attitude nasty and she isnt worth her grain in salt. It is derogitory.
If he calls her bitch, He just thinks she is worth nothing but to fuck.
If He calls her whore...well, He never calls a girl a whore. Period.
If slut, He refers to me.

Do i ho? NO!!

Words mean something to each of us and we need to be careful how we ue them, in proper contest and within our own boundaries.

I have a vanilla freind who knows Master calls me slut, he finds taht highly derogitoryand can't get past it in his own mind, even afteri expalin and he knows i am in a D/s relationhip. The problem is with this nilla freind, he treats his own mom with such disrect and contempt he might as well as be calling her cunt.

My conversations with one mistress here on CM is such that Mistreses here on CM don't like girls or boys to call themselves any of those words...but they dont mind using them on their own boy or girl.

Its a conundrum isnt it?




pleasureforHim -> RE: Being a slut (7/11/2005 9:50:53 AM)

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For me slut is about ATTITUDE, not actions. A virgin can be a slut. A monogamous married woman can be a slut. I can be a slut even if I don't have any sex at all for 8 months.

It's not about being horny, it's about having an attitude towards sex and sexuality of openness, freedom, joy, the DESIRE to express sexuality in as many ways and means with others as possible, with absolutely no shame or regret, loving the act of sex and the dance of sexuality for its own sake.


For me, being called a slut is a danger signal from my childhood; time to run for your life. That fear and those memories run very deep; i think i would prefer my Dom or Master to find some other endearment and not attempt to makeover fear triggers as deep as these.

When one lives with gunplay, one finds even a car backfiring a fearful moment.

pleasureforHim




GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Being a slut (7/11/2005 5:01:13 PM)

I have been thinking about this a lot. I have tried My damndest to come up with a derogatory name for any male who is, as chris stated, "on the prowl for sex".
The only one I can come up with is "rapist", and that is forcing a woman against her will.
How often to we hear about the court cases where a woman's sexuality is opened up in a rape case to try to prove the male not responsible? It really wasn't a rape. She was asking for it, or she didn't say "no", or "sometimes no means yes, and keep going".
Yet there are a lot of words to refer to a woman in a derogatory manner when it comes to sex.
She is the school slut.
She is the town whore.
She's a cunt.


quote:

I have learned over the last few weeks that on the CM message boards the word slut or whore means you are a ho.
The word bitch means you are anyones banger and its ok to use it.
Thje word cunt is sweet and endearing and useable.


Yes, it is unfortunate the the term slut and whore means just that. And I don't think it is just the collarme message boards. I do not have any problem, whatsoever, with anybody's term of endearment when they are playing their own, understood, bedroom games. But you answered your own question by saying:
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My profile is inactive cause i am trolled, and i read message boards.


We are all trolled to a certain extent, but you had to close this profile because, I would just be guessing here, you were probably treated extremely disrespectfully due to this particular user name. With a name like that, most males are going to view it as an open invitation for "easy pickings" in the sex department.

The word "bitch", IMO is not used for anybody who is easy. It is often used to indicate a temperment that does not have to have anything to do with sexuality at all.
"She is a real bitch". I, Myself, am called "Classy Bitch". It has nothing at all to do with sex, and much to do with power and personality.
Woman are bitches and men are aggressive and powerful.
I have never seen the word "cunt" used to indicate something sweet and endearing. But perhaps I missed that. I did, however, have to listen to a drunk mother call her own daughter a cunt. I have never heard it used as anything except derogatory, both in a sexual sense and in a plain old derogatory sense.
Perhaps, if people use these words in another context for many years to come, the eventual definition will move to something less derogatory. But I haven't seen it yet.
Are there any dergoatory names for males who are promiscuous? Even being called a Don Juan, a Cassanova, or a Wolf is not considerd derogatory. Woman take these descriptive names and use them to know who with whom they should be careful with heart and with body.
"Don't fall in love with him, he's a real Don Juan".
No matter how hard we try, the boys are still getting together in the locker rooms and talking about the girls who are easy. Even in our modern day and age, the girls still get the reputation and the boys still get the pat on the back. "Atta boy, you scored! Was she any good?"
That is why, even on a site like this, which is based upon an alternative lifestyle that has to do with certain power dynamics and sexual preferences, there are so many trolls. If she's on this site, she must be an easy target for a quick hook-up. Hence the word "troll". Throw out a line with whatever bait you think might work, and see if you can catch anything. Fishing for sex.
And for those who want that, that is fine. But to assume that this is what it is all
about is wrong. It's not going to change, but I certainly don't want to encourage it by saying I am a slut or a whore or a cunt. That would be sending the wrong message and I would only have Myself to blame if I was viewed in that light because I insisted that there was nothing wrong with using those words and they really don't mean that to Me.
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Words mean something to each of us and we need to be careful how we ue them, in proper contest and within our own boundaries.

And so it seems to Me that it is only prudent to stay away from those words unless you wish to impart the idea that you do fall into the *general* perception of those words.




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