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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 2:13:31 PM   
LaTigresse


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I am destitute and anti-social.  Other than that; I fit somewhere in the middle, I should think.

Ron


The middle is kind of a nice place to be I think.


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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 2:15:51 PM   
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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 2:16:21 PM   
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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 2:16:33 PM   
philosophy


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Status: offline 		..in the absence of any methodical survey it seems sensible to make no assumptions about the average education or economic class of CM posters. Clearly they have access to a computer of some sort or other, and more arguably they enjoy communicating via the gift of typed text, however neither qualification really relates to economic or educational attainment. Other than that there is no evidence one way or another.

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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 3:20:06 PM   
Alumbrado


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Status: offline 		In the absence of any methodical survey, we are left to test the OP's hypothesis on:

Spelling/grammar.... see the thread on the difference between being literate or educated, and being a good touch typist.

Knowledge... see the above comments on the ability of anyone with a computer to Google facts while conversing

Self reporting... note the absence of controls for BSing.


And notice that the OP fails to even divulge what the norm for SES is in the population at large, or the online population, thereby making any data gathering pointless.  Disproportionate to what? 

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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 3:23:51 PM   
BossyShoeBitch


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ORIGINAL: missturbation

Probably so.
However saying that the only reason i stated my qualifications is to prove you dont have to be blue collar to be educated.
I'm very proud of what i've achieved and so should anyone be who has done their best. If i had no qualifications at all i would still be proud of myself providing i had done my best.
I'd not considered a poll or a discussion about this would turn in to a pissing contest - go figure!!

missturbation,
just for clarification, in the states, blue collar is a term usually reserved for people who are not college educated and who work in some sort of service or labor industry.

As for myself,  I have a BA in Finance with a minor in Sociology.  I choose not to work (for a salary anyway) so that I can stay actively involved in my um's schools and to volunteer a ridiculous amount of my time to the temple that I belong to and to other charitable organizations.  I live in an affluent area and most of my friends are the same way. 
Oh, and blue collar guys are a huge turn on for me!


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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 3:27:08 PM   
LaTigresse


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Status: offline 		Lord knows that a degree does not mean a person can either type or spell well, let alone put a decent sentence together! I never cease to be amazed.

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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 3:28:51 PM   
Alumbrado


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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 3:40:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think intelligence has much relation to educational level, I really don't. Granted if you have a severe learning disability, or are retarded, you aren't maybe going to have an easy time at college, be able to be admitted to one, or possibly even want to go there - But - I know plenty of highly intelligent people who for various reasons have not pursued a higher education.

- Susan

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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 3:40:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

Thus the constant need for departmental secretaries at universities...

Hey, all of old fart/"non-traditional" students knew without a doubt that secretaries rule the universe.  Something which a few of my profs weren't aware of (the one who was fresh from a PhD. program sinned mightily). 

As for thinking, well, I had fairly practical majors every time I was in school (tech theater, electrical engineering, human factors engineering).  But I was damn slow and inefficient the first time around (the traditional age).  After I got out and started to make a living, I had to work smarter or get fired.

thornhappy
(who did secretarial work in the summers once upon a time)

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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 4:21:41 PM   
luckydog1


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Status: offline 		"My general opinion is that the members of this site approx. represent what is seen in the population at large.

Fascinating, huh? "

No, more like ridiculous.  You honestly think this site is representative of the population (Of the USA? Of the USA and Western Europe?  Of the World?)   Come on.  This site is representative of just about nothing except people who want a kink site with out paying.  That does indicate that 1. we are all literate, 100% of us, and no population on earth is 100% literate.  2.  The vast majority(like 90% +) of us are white, which is similar to the kink world in general, but not representative of any population I am aware of. That could be an interesting thread, why are most kink people white? 

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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 4:32:50 PM   
SusanofO


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Status: offline 		luckydog1: Maybe the black kinky people have simply excluded you from their rendevous spots. Ever think about that? Seriously, I am not sure, but I think there are exclusively black kinky groups out there (I saw a thread on this once, quite awhile back). There are some black people here at CM (I get e-mail from black Doms once in a while).

Blacks only comprise about 12% of the U.S. population. Hispanics are a much larger group. But I do see your point.

- Susan 

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 8/20/2007 4:36:04 PM >

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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 4:40:44 PM   
luckydog1


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Status: offline 		Susan, I never said there were no Blacks in kink, just that the vast majority of kinksters are white.  You can browse profiles on here, they list race most times.  It is the same with local munches and events.  When I see pictures of festivals events in other places, most people are white.  Do I have an incorrect perception.  Then correct me, I have nothing invested in being right with this.

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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 4:53:27 PM   
SusanofO


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Status: offline 		luckydog1: Black folks here have sometimes mentioned this, too, here at CM. I am not sure of a reason for it.

- Susan

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 8/20/2007 4:54:42 PM >

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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 5:12:54 PM   
Cuckme4Life


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Status: offline 		Seems to be quite a few black people into kink in my home city of Memphis. Cant speak for the rest of America though.

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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 5:37:46 PM   
CuriousLord


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Status: offline 		I would hope you might've realized by now that avoiding the socioeconomic prejustices is one of the charms of such a community.  You strike me as far too hung up on education, trying to toat your head like a horny teen might his own special "head".

Alright, so new thread time.  What does everyone think the average CM member's penis size is?

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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 6:18:44 PM   
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Alright, so new thread time.  What does everyone think the average CM member's penis size is?


...depends how much she spends at the adult store...........

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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 9:46:45 PM   
ChainsandFreedom


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Status: offline 		I remember a sociology 101 exercise a professor at a community college I went did. He asked the class to raise hands if they were lower class, then mid, then upper. like 26 out of 30 or so of us raised our hands for the middle class. Self-reporting of income levels is rarely and effective measure.

Is the engineer or archetect who drives a pickup and wears a hardhat blue collar? What about the non-college educated guy who comes into your home and networks together your electronics, is he blue collar? or the masters-holder who runs computer anaylis routines on your hybird engine but uts mechanic on his tax return? is the temp office worker with a degree a true measure of white collar?

blue/collar white collar distinctions mean little and havent since most factory jobs left the country.

notice the OP called us all blue collar and uneducated and hasnt responded since. Obviously this thread was meerly a whine and a sterotyping one at that. And this mostly college educated, self-reported sucessful group of responders played the part of gullible fools gladly playing into it. Myself included.

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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 9:56:45 PM   
ChainsandFreedom


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Status: offline 		also, after experiencing a community college, good state school, and an ivy, I can honestly say that from what I witnessed almost the only people who took education seriously were either economically not as well off as their peers, older and saw the connection between college and profession, or under more intense social pressure for sucess-immigrants children or first gen college students or what have you.

So the community college kids and adult learners were the best students. Usually it was the ones from well of/comfterbal families who either had time to devote to benders or to saving the world simply by takeing a few classes on the topic.

oh and they all use the same textbooks - unless your prof has written something obscure he's trying to hype. I worked in the CC and Ivy's bookstores, I was surprised.
Plus the students from all three seem to complain that the prof does nothing but assign reading and go over it in lecture in what seemed to be equal measure.

College in no way is indicitive of intellegence. Its indicitive of either having family money to invest or the willingness to take on loans. When someone is trying to sell you 30+ grand in debt to major in gender issues or fashion design, you have to wonder if maybe the smart choice is just to start work early spend those years already becoming managment in a field you'd probably get comprimisingly stuck in after college anyway.

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RE: Economics/Education and CM Members - 8/20/2007 11:02:10 PM   
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