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proper protocol - 8/22/2007 1:09:29 AM   
girlygurl


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Status: offline 		i was chatting the other day and someone told me to stop addressing those in the room with “Y/you” or “E/everyone”… (this is something i do when chatting with my Sir to show respect).  the person i was chatting with said it looked like stuttering in type.
 
my question:
when posting threads, and/or responding to one, should i “bag” the capitalization when addressing both Doms and subs?
 
thank You.  used the caps since i’m in “ask a Master”

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RE: proper protocol - 8/22/2007 1:11:37 AM   
Aileen68


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Status: offline 		I find it incredibly annoying and tend to skip right over posts that use it.

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RE: proper protocol - 8/22/2007 1:14:31 AM   
MissMagnolia


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Status: offline 		Not a Master, but the message is the same. Bugger everyone else, you do either what you are comfortable with OR what you have been ordered by your Master to do.

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RE: proper protocol - 8/22/2007 1:49:28 AM   
LadyHeart


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Status: offline 		It is certainly very formal, but in no way "incorrect." The person who told you to stop doing was in the wrong, unless they were the room owner/moderator. It is always wiser to err on the side of formality than to be too casual.

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RE: proper protocol - 8/22/2007 2:10:57 AM   
BabyNyla


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen68

I find it incredibly annoying and tend to skip right over posts that use it.


agreed

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RE: proper protocol - 8/22/2007 2:26:18 AM   
bandit25


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Status: offline 		Personally, I find it annoying also; however, if you feel you should do it...Perhaps, you could ask whomever you are chatting with if it bothers that person.  Doesn't sound like you were told to do it, just that it's something you think you should do.

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RE: proper protocol - 8/22/2007 2:31:12 AM   
Sinimint


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Status: offline 		I find it extremely annoying.  It is just something made up for the internet.  Most doms I know cannot stand it.

I also skip over the posts that do it - it's stressful to read :)

Edited to add: actually I dont know any doms or dommes that like it .....

< Message edited by Sinimint -- 8/22/2007 2:33:47 AM >

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RE: proper protocol - 8/22/2007 2:31:36 AM   
KiandPhoenix


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Status: offline 		This was very recently discussed in another thread started on the 4th
http://www.collarchat.com/m_1187496/tm.htm.

As you can see a lot of people can't stand the /. Some like it, some of us use it to show respect to those who have been in the lifestyle longer than we have.

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RE: proper protocol - 8/22/2007 4:09:47 AM   
MamaDomme


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quote:

ORIGINAL: girlygurl

i was chatting the other day and someone told me to stop addressing those in the room with “Y/you” or “E/everyone”… (this is something i do when chatting with my Sir to show respect).  the person i was chatting with said it looked like stuttering in type.
 
my question:
when posting threads, and/or responding to one, should i “bag” the capitalization when addressing both Doms and subs?
 
thank You.  used the caps since i’m in “ask a Master”


I don't care for it either.  And like others, usually skip the posts.  When others im me using it, I ask them to please type normally.

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RE: proper protocol - 8/22/2007 4:14:37 AM   
AquaticSub


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quote:

ORIGINAL: girlygurl
 
my question:
when posting threads, and/or responding to one, should i “bag” the capitalization when addressing both Doms and subs?
 
thank You.  used the caps since i’m in “ask a Master”


Valyraen finds it disrespectful of the English language so if you were talking to him through e-mails he would tell you to stop the sillyness, capitalize your "i"s, don't give all pronouns refering to him a capital letter and for God's sake stop the annoying "Y/you" thing. However, on the messages boards it's your own thing. Sometimes we just skip posts using it, sometimes we don't.

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RE: proper protocol - 8/22/2007 4:47:27 AM   
Rover


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Status: offline 		I'll make three observations:
 
1.  Do what works for you and your Master.  You are the only two that you're answerable to.  If you both enjoy it, live it up. 
 
2.  Everything we do has consequences.  And one of the consequences of C/capitalizations is that other people find it annoying and will judge you for it (don't think judging isn't a universal human trait). 
 
3.  Annoyed or not, it's inappropriate for anyone to put down what works for you and your Master.  It's fine to say it doesn't work for them, not so fine to say that you shouldn't enjoy it or engage in it.  I would love to stand over them during their next scene making a few choice comments to see how they like it in return.
 
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RE: proper protocol - 8/22/2007 4:50:27 AM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		It is an annoying affectation found primarily in chatrooms and among people who DON'T do this in real life.

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RE: proper protocol - 8/22/2007 5:00:24 AM   
Alumbrado


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Status: offline 		Combining what Rover and Simply Michael said....

Do what you want, but you are painting a very specific and usually unflattering picture of yourself everytime you use that format.

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RE: proper protocol - 8/22/2007 6:07:12 AM   
Jayxkes


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Status: offline 		I dislike the Y/you style of writing too.  In part it's because I find it makes reading a post etc., disjointed and difficult.  Partly because I do not understand the 'respect' logic.
It could be argued, that if you know a style of writing irritates and/or annoys people who are likely to read what you have written,  then you are showing disrespect for them.
(I'm lucky in that the people I know who like T/that style of writing,  revert to normal when writing to me)

Frequently posters do not use paragraphs, so when that style is run together in just one paragraph it becomes really irritating.  Though that is also true of those who use ....... as their punctuation and those who just leave out punctuation.

I too tend to skip any post written in that style.

I do understand and accept that others have reasons for adopting that style.  However, as the responses here already show, it does tend to reduce the number of people reading it.

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RE: proper protocol - 8/22/2007 6:17:37 AM   
celticlord2112


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Status: offline 		The capitilization is a gesture of respect; as I have seen it used here, it is a gesture of respect towards a dominant person or a group thereof. 

That being the case, to my way of thinking the upper/lower styling has the effect of excluding certain people from that respectful gesture.  I see it as a stylistic snub of subs.  In my opinion, it is unnecessary and ultimately (albeit unintentionally) rude.

The world will not come to an end if submissives in the presence of dominants are covered by a blanket gesture of respect nominally directed at dominants.


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RE: proper protocol - 8/22/2007 7:17:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: girlygurl
my question:
when posting threads, and/or responding to one, should i “bag” the capitalization when addressing both Doms and subs?

Most people would prefer that you do not because it suggests you are assigning everyone a "position" towards you based solely on their own personal relationship orientation.   What would you use when you address a switch?  Or someone who was a sadistic slave?

But whether you SHOULD or not depends on what works for you in your world- as long as you understand and accept the pushback you will get regarding the practice, it's pretty low on the list of things to get worked up about.

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RE: proper protocol - 8/22/2007 8:51:18 AM   
MasterMataeo


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHeart

It is certainly very formal, but in no way "incorrect." The person who told you to stop doing was in the wrong, unless they were the room owner/moderator. It is always wiser to err on the side of formality than to be too casual.

:))
LH




agreed,,  

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RE: proper protocol - 8/22/2007 10:11:03 AM   
TallDarkAndWitty


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

It is an annoying affectation found primarily in chatrooms and among people who DON'T do this in real life.


This!

Personally, I love when people use it...it provides a quick filter mechanism and allows me to ignore whatever they write.

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RE: proper protocol - 8/22/2007 10:28:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Most people would prefer that you do not because it suggests you are assigning everyone a "position" towards you based solely on their own personal relationship orientation.   What would you use when you address a switch?  Or someone who was a sadistic slave?


I used to have a good friend who was a switch, named Sherry....whenever I typed her name in an email, I always typed S/sherry....just as a running joke between the two of us. I personally would much rather someone I'm chatting with just type normally. Im definantly not a stickler for proper grammer and punctuation, because I know Im not the best at it either, but I find emails without hundreds of slashes to be much easier to read, but if its something your Master has asked you to do, then don't worry about anyone elses opinions, its only him you need to worry about pleasing.

ghita~

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RE: proper protocol - 8/22/2007 10:32:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've also NEVER seen anyone use it consistently.  Is it only for pronouns?  Proper nouns?  Regular nouns?  I've even seen people use it for verbs.  Perhaps if there were a sense of consistency or SOME rules to it, then I could at least accept it as a system- right now calling it formal or protocol or anything other than "funky way I like to type" just seems a bit audacious.

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