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celticlord2112 -> RE: Why? (8/23/2007 1:52:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: plspickme

i've had never equated extrovert with Dominance. It's usually a look or the way the man carries himself.


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ORIGINAL: plspickme
i honestly believe that they really do believe what they write and tell you on the phone.


I honestly believe you also believe what you write.




Redoubt -> RE: Why? (8/23/2007 6:19:59 PM)

Simply, I'd say you were meeting these people too fast.

Its one thing to act all dominant in email, another in chat, another still over the phone and dramatically further in person... in public, and in private.

You can't know someone fully until you meet them in person, and you shouldn't be meeting them until you've thoroughly gotten to know them over the phone first. (And you shouldnt be talking with them on the phone until you've spent a while communicating with them in the safety of cyber land - and I mean communicating, I don't mean getting off online or on the phone)

Just because they can get you all hot and bothered, does not mean that they are someone you should be in a relationship with... you find that out through talking, and if you don't have your hand down your pants, you may actually be getting to know them :)





HopeLost -> RE: Why? (8/23/2007 11:10:48 PM)

at the beginning of any relationship we put our best foot foward. plus we always view ourselves differently then how others might. its hard to see the outside from in here if you get what i mean.




plspickme -> RE: Why? (8/24/2007 5:25:54 AM)

How long do you wait? i have never met anyone that i didn't E-mail or talk to for a week or more.




adoracat -> RE: Why? (8/24/2007 5:39:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: plspickme

How long do you wait? i have never met anyone that i didn't E-mail or talk to for a week or more.


i met Sir on collarme.  we emailed, instant messaged, talked on the phone for about 3 weeks before we met in person.  we've known each other about 6 months now.

kitten




Celeste43 -> RE: Why? (8/24/2007 7:40:39 AM)

Remember, the one common factor in all your relationships is you. Why are you taking their word for it? Why aren't you asking questions that help you screen them  better? Are you listening to what they say, looking for red flags?




ehlovindom -> RE: Why? (8/24/2007 8:11:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: plspickme

Why is it when you meet a man he is never what he says he is?. He may be nice and all, but he is never the Master or the Dom he leads you to believe he is. Some of them lie, but i honestly believe that they really do believe what they write and tell you on the phone. Any insight? Or is it just me?


Are you generalizing here or being specific with just ONE man you have recently met. If I was to ask you why is it when you meet a woman, she never is what she says she is. She is never quite the sub she leads you to believe.....etc.......

People lie. Get over it. Move on. No one is perfect. Reconsider your own expectations of the Dom/Master you wish to meet, expect to meet and actually meet.




celticlord2112 -> RE: Why? (8/24/2007 10:01:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: plspickme

How long do you wait? i have never met anyone that i didn't E-mail or talk to for a week or more.


I would not say you "wait" at all, but rather let things evolve at a slower pace, and be sure you are honest and upfront with the person.  Meeting a person is fine--but with few expectations other than he show up and look presentable.  If the personalities don't click, then so be it.  Say that the personalities aren't clicking and move on.  If the personalities DO click, then SLOWLY allow a relationship to develop.  In the meantime, enjoy what is out there.




Satyr6406 -> RE: Why? (8/24/2007 10:09:57 AM)

I HAVE to get in on this!
 
As a man who's been told "You're not strict enough", I have to tell you that running around, raising your voice and calling someone with whom I'm in a relationship "bitch" is NOT what I am about.
 
I shouldn't have to yell and fight for a "gift" that is supposed to be given. I tell submissives this, all the time (Forgive the gender assignations, please): "He can only dominate as much as you are willing to submit just as you can only submit as much as he can dominate."
 
 
 
 
 
Peace and comfort,
 
 
 
 
 
Michael




celticlord2112 -> RE: Why? (8/24/2007 10:23:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Satyr6406
I shouldn't have to yell and fight for a "gift" that is supposed to be given.


The gift should be given.   However, the Dominant should be prepared to do SOMETHING with that gift.  I equate dominance with leadership, and leadership is about making choices, and making decisions.

"Do, or Do Not."  In my way of thinking, the dominant "Does".




Satyr6406 -> RE: Why? (8/24/2007 10:45:54 AM)

I agree, about leading, Celtic (You should check one of my rants [dated 04/19/2007], on my journal) but, a leader can't lead if no one will follow.
 
How many people do we know with wonderful ideas who are voices crying out in the wilderness until someone takes that leap of faith? I have found any number of "submissives" who have standards that, quite honestly, are almost impossible to deal with.
 
Look we all have standards but, if a submissive says she wants to SUBMIT, she should NOT be holding anything back and faaaaaaaaar too many do.
 
 
 
 
 
Peace and comfort,
 
 
 
 
 
Michael




celticlord2112 -> RE: Why? (8/24/2007 11:01:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Satyr6406
I agree, about leading, Celtic (You should check one of my rants [dated 04/19/2007], on my journal) but, a leader can't lead if no one will follow.


It is a paradox.  A leader cannot lead if no one will follow, but the follower cannot follow until someone leads.

In my experience, the leader takes the first leap of faith when he says "I will lead", and only then can the follower take the second leap of faith and say "I will follow".




rmanrr -> RE: Why? (8/24/2007 7:40:58 PM)

Greetings
Further it is not a fucking gift. dammit....if you think so then wake up...a gift can be taken back....
Ranting and frothing at the mouth at "gift".
What is it you want to do....further...if it is a gift then it can be passed around and re gifted right?
Which number is being served next!
Hijacking and not sorry about it in the least.




celticlord2112 -> RE: Why? (8/24/2007 8:22:44 PM)

Por que lo escribe esto delirio?







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