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Submissive, masculine men and cross-dressing - 8/22/2007 9:58:04 PM   
Morsigil


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Status: offline 		I am a 23 year old man (24 at somewhere around 3 AM September 15th) with hair on my chest, chin, and arms to name a few places. I can keep it under control, but I'm not a feminine man. I have these nice blue eyes that the girls fall for, and full lips, with a soft jaw and model eyebrows.... But what it comes down to is that I'm halfway between masculine and feminine, built for muscle but all skin and bones if I don't eat much. Because I enjoy eating I stay around 190 lbs, and people laugh at me when I say I need to lose 30 lbs to reach a healthy weight. I'd be pretty rail thin at 160 lbs.

Here is my dillemma: I love to cross dress. I drip pre-cum everytime I get fucked by a strap-on (or dick for that matter). I fully understand the woman that wants a beautiful man to dress, but what do we do? The guys who are not feminine, shapely, or beautiful but want to feel that way?

Edit: Typos.


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RE: Submissive, masculine men and cross-dressing - 8/22/2007 10:01:24 PM   
shyinini


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Status: offline 		I know a domme who would love to own you !

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RE: Submissive, masculine men and cross-dressing - 8/22/2007 10:57:36 PM   
Lashra


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Status: offline 		My submale is 6 ft  4 and 240lbs, he is very masculine, muscular and yet he loves to crossdress. Frankly he has very sexy legs in thigh hi's, they look better than a lot of womens that I know. BUT they are also covered with hair, so I introduced him to waxing. He hated it at first but then loved the way it made his legs feel and look in stockings. Now he waxes almost all of his bodyhair (I prefer my subs that way).

He shaved off his goatee and I do his eyebrows for him. Now he uses a deep cleanser on his face as well as moisturizer. That is about as much as we can do without changing his bodyshape which I love and refuse to change. We are thinking about getting him a corset to wear to make his figure a bit more curvy. Neither of us is interested in him taking hormones so he has taken it as far as he can I think.

He has learned some makeup tricks from some crossdressing sites and how to do his nails. You may want to check them out also for some helpful hints.

~Lashra


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RE: Submissive, masculine men and cross-dressing - 8/23/2007 12:24:42 AM   
SDFemDom4cuck


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Status: offline 		Personally I love the incongruity of a masculine muscled man wearing the most feminine little scraps of silk and lace. There's just something about it that's makes them so damned adorable and vulnerable.

So don't worry about it. Feel pretty. It's perfectly okay. The right person is out there and will appreciate you for you.



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RE: Submissive, masculine men and cross-dressing - 8/23/2007 3:33:09 AM   
JennipherAOnyx


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Status: offline 		While this may not be great advice, know that there are guys like you (and equally confused/certain/confused again). I myself am a straight guy who logs into this site using a femme name. While I have yet to really "come out," I can say that the two people I've confided in (re: dressing) were really supportive and yet didn't really understand my dillema. I think I just misspelled confided and dillema. Anywho, keep being honest with yourself in terms of what types of things make you happy (dressing, eating burritos, whatever), participate in those activities, and every once in a while take a small risk and share parts of what you do with people you know are understanding of "quirky" things.

Hell, all I can say is you're not alone.

Dealing With Dressing Along With You,

J.A.O.

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RE: Submissive, masculine men and cross-dressing - 8/23/2007 6:29:03 AM   
jflynn


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From: Boston, Ma
Status: offline 		Ok, call me crazy and maybe my POV is different because I'm not a crossdresser.. But what is the allure of Overly manly/macho guys being forced to dress as women? I mean.. For most men, if they are buff/macho/well-cut types, they tend to look better as they are, and flinging randoms lacy bits of negligee on them just seems almost absurdest (and not in a good way.)

Don't get me wrong, I realize that everyone has their kink, and I'll support everyone in their kink.. But this is one of those that just seems silly. I can see the net humiliation benefit of having a smaller guy doing forced CD'ing (Someone with a more slight bone structure, less body hair, and fairer skin, etc..) Since they already have a slightly ambiguous appearance, and doing this creates a bit more of a mindfuck situation. But on larger, more "manly" men it just seems wasted, when they have such other better qualities that should be embraced.

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RE: Submissive, masculine men and cross-dressing - 8/23/2007 8:13:56 AM   
scottyguy506


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Status: offline 		I love to wear panties and stockings around the house,and for the Mistress I wear them to her studio before I visit her,I dress up in this gear at home and then I visit her for a training session .I also make sure that I shave all the  areas around my private areas and am nice and clean and presentable to my Mistress,I hope she likes it?

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RE: Submissive, masculine men and cross-dressing - 8/23/2007 8:40:08 AM   
Grlwithboy


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Status: offline 		I like androgyny for someone who feels they aren't going to be pretty fully turned out femme. Like...Bowie but kinked.  Maybe eventually they get more into it, maybe not.

I mean something like a black brocade corset, hints of makeup, stockings, garter, and heels, but leaving off the wig, the full makeup, maybe not always having breasts on him. *I* find it pretty. *I* find it attractive and stimulating and always have. I'm also visually kinked to certain retro things from eras where male prettiness was more in vogue - 20's and 30's items, smoking jackets, sock garters on nice calves.

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RE: Submissive, masculine men and cross-dressing - 8/23/2007 9:48:43 AM   
Lashra


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Status: offline 		My sub asked to be allowed to crossdress because inside of him his fem side wanted to come out. I never forced him or tried to talk him into it. This was something that he needed. Yes every man has a fem side as each women has a masculine side. Though most people do not always let them come out to play. Some people after awhile have to let these other sides of themselves to come out and my sub wanted to do it with me in safety.

He loves wearing lacy, frilly things, it makes him happy and as a result, he is a happier person overall. So when he walks out his door now in his workclothes, with his lace and silk panties on underneath, he goes to work with a smile. Being happy, isn't that really what it is about?

~Lashra


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RE: Submissive, masculine men and cross-dressing - 8/23/2007 4:39:07 PM   
SubJordanTyler


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Status: offline 		My feminine side has come out a lot in the last few years.  I'm a pretty slender build with actual hips that gives me a waist and curves.  I realized it first when I couldn't find jeans to fit me, went to the women's dept, tried some on, and they fit wonderfully.  It was the hips.  But I also realized how great it felt wearing women's clothes.

So I started to change almost everything.  I shaved my legs and loved how it looked and felt.  I also happen to have very toned legs that women compliment all the time, telling me they look better than theirs and wish they had mine.  So that made me go and shave the rest of my body and tan to bring out a glow.  I do my hair and nails.  I exfoliate my entire body so the skin stays smooth.

Short of changing the naughty parts and hormones, my body has become much more feminine than masculine.  I'm dressing more now and when I do, I look very close to an actual woman - I can pass for one fairly well right now.  I've been able to look better than most of the real women in a room.  It took a lot of time and effort and work, but it's all well worth it, as I feel so much better now that the woman in me has come out.

Sometimes I think that's the way I really was supposed to be "made" way back in the beginning.

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RE: Submissive, masculine men and cross-dressing - 8/23/2007 6:19:53 PM   
johnnyak


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Status: offline 		Hmm...An interesting topic.During my late teens i tended to cross-dress,i just could'nt get enough of it at the time(Damn,puberty was tough for me).Funnily enough when i started getting interested in bdsm my desire for cross-dressing simply faded.Im now 22 and to behonest until this topic,i actually never thought about it.At this point in time it would be a VERY hard limit.Dont get me wrong ,i mean i have the young,cute and innocent look going on for me right now so i would imagine i would be perfect for it! As much as im heavily submissive towards Women,dildo play and cross-dressing is my Ultimate limit!! Im ehm...a guys guy(whatever that means!!  )No but seriously the Domme would have to break me down for that limit! The right Domme could do it though.

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RE: Submissive, masculine men and cross-dressing - 8/25/2007 1:15:01 AM   
iwearpanties


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Status: offline 		i have too say its great too see im not alone here either ..i started wearing panties at very young age 7 or 8 and now early 40s i still wear . like most i dont pass and infact I dont seek too unless the Mistress i am with wants me to pass ... i love the feeling of the silks and nylon fabrics of panties n bras and hose im am sure there are so  amny more guys/ men /bois who are the same as we are .have you ever wondered when walking down the street or at the mall what other guys might be wearing panties like me / us .  and im sure there more out ther then we realy know about . but its places like collar me that helps open doors to meet others and find others with simular intrest ..its great too meet others who also enjoy the softer side and still feel like Men i know for me the wearing and feelings help me escape the every day stress of life in the world .   its Great too met you all

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RE: Submissive, masculine men and cross-dressing - 8/25/2007 10:27:49 AM   
MzAri


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ORIGINAL: Morsigil

Here is my dillemma: I love to cross dress. I drip pre-cum everytime I get fucked by a strap-on (or dick for that matter). I fully understand the woman that wants a beautiful man to dress, but what do we do? The guys who are not feminine, shapely, or beautiful but want to feel that way?



You do the same things that a woman who isn't feminine or beautiful does.  You corset in the parts that are too big, pad the bits that are too small, and powder and paint the parts that you feel aren't pretty enough.  Half of being feminine is knowing the artifices that make one glamourous.

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RE: Submissive, masculine men and cross-dressing - 8/26/2007 3:27:59 AM   
MsCfromMelbourne


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Status: offline 		Gender bending is fun.  There seems to be a myriad of reasons why: it is exciting, naughty, forbidden, shocking, humilating, erotic, comforting, liberating, addictive etc etc   Every cross dresser has their own reason for the secret thrill.

Some crossies are heart broken to discover that they will never "pass" for a real woman

Others just love cross dressing and feel sexy, without needing to fool anyone whats really in their underpants!.

Good luck, Morsigil. 






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RE: Submissive, masculine men and cross-dressing - 8/26/2007 12:55:43 PM   
chuckra


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Status: offline 		Finding my feminine side has been a long struggle for me. i have always known it was there, but never was able to develop the opportunity to bring it out. i've done the typical things like wear mom's panties, bought some hose and an occasional dress, make-up etc. i have thrown things away because "i shouldn't have them," but guess what - i have always found myself returning to it and buying more things. Problem is i was never in a situation where could pursue this to the depths i wanted and was too chicken shit to do so.

One year ago i attended a play party. i knew no one else at the party. i had taken the heels i own with me in case i had a chance to wear them. i began speaking to a Mistress and told her about my heels. She asked to see them and put them on for Her which, of course, i did. She then dressed me in some of Her lingerie and did my make-up for me. i was as feminine as i had ever been and i really thought i had died and went to heaven.

Ususally in settings where i do not know anyone i am rather quiet and reserved. However, after Mistress dressed me fem, though it wasn't total fem it was more than i had ever experienced, i found myself coming out of my shell like i had never experienced before. i truly walked around the room with pride, feeling self confident, talking to  approaching complete strangers like never before, and gloating in my new found identity. i shall never be able to thank the Mistress enough.

The difficulty for me now is finding a Mistress to Whom i may give my total submission and desires that feminine side in me. i truly hope i can get to experience those feelings again and on a regular basis. If not, at least i did once - but i will always yearn for that part of me to be brought out more.

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