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mmb1 -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 10:50:42 AM)
hahaha...........

pearldoe -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 10:59:55 AM)
ok, i am going to consider that there are alot of idiots on the internet but still i will answer.....let me make this clear so even the most dumb can understand.....this is not a matter of he said, she said....it is a matter of a criminal spanning twenty plus years....a sociopath/psychopath....as for calling the police....it is a matter in the hands of not only local police but federal.....the man is now in custody and i am sure you will one day read about it....we are not looking for your sympathy or trying to make accusations against someone....the facts are the facts...he is in custody and will stand trial....the point of this post was to reach out to any others he may have hurt who may be afraid....some of you types are the reason people like him can continue to cause harm....as i said it is time for TRUE LIFESTYLERS to stand up and say enough. i will speak for myself...i know my responsibility in being with him....i did not use my head nor follow any of my training....i will be looking hard at myself to figure out why i made the choice i did and why i allow myself to be used in that way....but regardless of why i made the choices i made the fact remains...he is a very bad man and a criminal who used this lifestyle to harm .....many many women.....if anyone who reads this has been in contact with him....i am here to listen and help....but i will let you others know right now...i will not back down nor stop my mission to alert others and help to educate other women so this will not happen to them.

mmb1 -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 11:05:00 AM)
and you have done a wonderful job educating...........again.........and............again......thank you for sharing :)

AquaticSub -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 11:07:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pearldoe ok, i am going to consider that there are alot of idiots on the internet but still i will answer.....let me make this clear so even the most dumb can understand.....this is not a matter of he said, she said....it is a matter of a criminal spanning twenty plus years....a sociopath/psychopath....as for calling the police....it is a matter in the hands of not only local police but federal.....the man is now in custody and i am sure you will one day read about it....we are not looking for your sympathy or trying to make accusations against someone....the facts are the facts...he is in custody and will stand trial....the point of this post was to reach out to any others he may have hurt who may be afraid.... Which is impossible because you can't say his name here. If you truly want to help, provide a link to a newspaper article about him in the news section of the forums. All this could do is start a witch hunt, and we know how well it works to have people looking for unnamed "bad guys". quote: some of you types are the reason people like him can continue to cause harm....as i said it is time for TRUE LIFESTYLERS to stand up and say enough. Enough is enough. But I refuse to convict without evidence, as any sane person should. "He said, she said" simply is not good enough. quote: i will speak for myself...i know my responsibility in being with him....i did not use my head nor follow any of my training....i will be looking hard at myself to figure out why i made the choice i did and why i allow myself to be used in that way....but regardless of why i made the choices i made the fact remains...he is a very bad man and a criminal who used this lifestyle to harm .....many many women.....if anyone who reads this has been in contact with him....i am here to listen and help....but i will let you others know right now...i will not back down nor stop my mission to alert others and help to educate other women so this will not happen to them. You want to educate women, get off these boards and give your time to a women's shelter. Donate your money to abuse education - help the groups that are already in place and need your time and money to continue to help and educate women. Posting here about nameless, faceless bad guys isn't going to help anybody.

omegasone -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 11:19:49 AM)
I would like to add that I lived this life for 7 months, its not joke about how intelligent this mans lifestyle con is to women. He has been doing it going on 30 yrs. He is now in jail for alot of his crimes. My message was to seek others he may have been involved with. Im suprised at the number of negativity out there when we all enjoy WIIWD. Open minded or closed it don't matter to me. Im looking for those that might have been affected by this man If you have ever lived it or been there you would know the damage he can cause. Thanks for being such an accepting group of people.

BruisedHick -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 11:24:18 AM)
(I think they're talking about me......)

givemyall -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 11:24:36 AM)
If you are genuinely trying to help people there are better ways than this forum (as its already been pointed out). There are alot of people that fall out on a regular basis and it would be wrong to judge this person that you have mentioned in your profile and expect us to think the worst of him. No one is accusing you of using the forums as a personal vendetta, but for all we know, you could be. Maybe as it's in the hands of the law, it would be better left there. On the other hand, im sorry if you have allowed yourself to be mislead and hurt by this person

fungasm -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 11:26:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: omegasone PLEASE READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!! Today I am on a mission....It is time that we as a community stand up and start policing ourselves....We must stop those who use this lifestyle to prey on others!!!!!!! Part of this insert is from another women whom has fallin victim to this mans' con and she has givin me permission to repost. "...i realize when i am done some will say how stupid i am...how desperate... how much a fool i am.....but i do not care how anyone views me at this point.....all i care about is possibly saving another woman from hurt and harm. What I am about to quote is part of his con "Recently i started talking with a man on Collarme who wrote to me....we exchanged many emails on Collarme and then on Yahoo and chatted online on messenger. we then began talking everyday...several times a day on the phone. He was extremely charming and seemingly knowledgeable about this lifestyle. The one thing that made him different was his approach.... he stressed that he was very old fashioned and over protective and he liked to court a woman. He was a man of character that spoke several different languages, Japenese and Russian to name a few. The story he told was good....he had been married for 20 plus years and his wife had died a few years ago and now he was ready to find a mother for his children. He said how he did not believe how lucky he was to finally find someone he was so attracted to who could be the light of his life who spoke to his heart." He has used the sisterhood of slaves to garner information from us in pretending to be a slave in disguise until he gained our trust and profiled everything about us and other times he approached us as a Master. He is a sociopath/pschopath . PLEASE PLEASE Be aware I am not alone in this as there have been a multitude of women that he has either been in contact with or fallin victim to his scam which has resulted in many losses financially, mentally and even physical abuse. If you feel you have been there with us in this con even if your ashamed to admit it as there is no shame in wanting or needing what you desire to be fullfilled in your life as he uses that to get to you, we are reaching out to others in our time of bringing men like him to justice. SISTERHOOD lets stand up and say we aren't going to take it anymore and stop PREDATORS like this by turning witness against them. You may or may not be asking for something valid- but I read this three times, and I still don't know what you want. Start over. Use paragraphs. Take deep breaths. Type slowly. Did this happen to you? When? Where? Over what time frame? What happened, exactly? What would you like from this community? What are you asking? Are you trying to provide information that there is a predator who uses this modality? What is the end result you would like? Eschew obfusication... In other words: be clear. In order to get what you want you have to ask for it in a way that we understand. Alison

celticlord2112 -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 11:29:18 AM)
Why make this about the lifestyle? Guys can be manipulative little shits and deranged psychopaths without ever mentioning BDSM. That one human could ever abuse another is tragic, but it is the sad reality of the species. Hence the wisdom: "Trust, but verify"

Mercnbeth -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 11:31:27 AM)
As a PS to Aquatic's comments... quote: i did not use my head nor follow any of my training Most people here are the choir singing the two common choruses containing the lyrics; "follow your head/instincts" / "use what you know and learned in life experience to avoid frauds and predators". The downside of your post, is that it will keep more people in front of their computer more afraid to get out and meet real people. People drown in water - but people still swim. Being foolish enough to diving head first into murky water may result in being refreshed, but unless you know for sure the depth and where their are rocks just below the surface can get hurt and/or killed. Is it the rock's fault or the diver's?

mmb1 -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 11:31:29 AM)
LOL at BruisedHick, I was going to confess to being the one lol

DarkDesirestx -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 11:40:13 AM)
Definately the rock's fault for not getting out of the way. LMAO I couldn't resist saying it. LOL

willowspirit -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 11:41:38 AM)
There was a similar thing going on with a guy in Iowa. His handle was forms of the words "Red" and "Dragon" in various languages. He was NOT on Collarme, but on a different "ALTernative" lifestyle site. I met him once, safe calls scheduled and in place, but he left me feeling squicked out somehow, which is unusual for me because I'm often TOO trusting. I backed away and stopped all contact with him. A week later I was contacted by two irrate slaves WITH CONTRACTS committing themselves to him. They also had just learned about each other. This dude had promised each of them a live-in relationship and "protection", got them signed up in his multi-level vitamin marketing business, had them buy his inventory, pay for his convention trips, airfare, hotel rooms, car rentals, etc. Talked about his fancy home, his "impending wealth", his "ex" (ha - ha!) wife (though in fact they were still married and living together as total husband and wife), and how his job had him travelling up and down interstate 35. Ends up he was trying to stack up subbies all along his route! This dud, ahh ?errr... dude, did medical damage to them while in physical play. Really bad. One (and only one) of the "slaves" DID take him to court, and got a judgment against him. There is a lien filed on his home now. His wife and older daughters found out. His multi-level marketing upline found out and censored him -- whatever that means... and basically the story goes that his life is in shambles. The woman who had the strength to go to court is now very happy and in a wonderful relationship. The women (yes, there ended up being a couple more) who did nothing are still making more mistakes and having hard times. I was lucky. Safe calls -- $1.50. Not caving-in to pressure when something tells you to RUN --- priceless... For everything else, use Master Card....

MissMorrigan -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 11:46:49 AM)
Opportunists abound in just about every walk of life. What of YOUR responsibilities in this? You say you have been in this 'lifestyle' for ten years, do you apply the same trust in your everyday life to strangers as you seem to have in this person you met online? You also said that you didn't want to listen and it almost cost you dearly... If you believe that you have been deliberately conned by someone then shouldn't it be the correct authorities who deal with this and not a posse of 'sisters' calling for an online lynching at the Collarme Corral? You bear a lot of responsibility in your situation. It's a shame when common sense is put in the bin when those hormones start rampaging. quote: ORIGINAL: pearldoe my losses are mostly finanacial and emotional but i will say that it will be a very long time before i can ever trust again and the emotional damage will take alot of time for me to work through. my mission now is to tell my story every chance i get so that others will know not only about this man but also that there are others out there like him. If i look like a fool or stupid...oh well...i will just look it but i will not stop until my sisters hear me.

mmb1 -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 11:50:37 AM)
wow willow, that is some story......................;)

domiguy -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 12:00:23 PM)
It seems rather remarkable how none of these predators seem to have names or links to a site that would report on their arrests....Sure it happens....People meet shit heads in every walk of life.....I met a woman at "The Jewel.".... I should have known right from the start that the bitch was crazy!!!....She was buying cantaloupes without even sniffing them first....I mean, how fucking crazy is that shit? I was concentrating on her tits and ass in lieu of her purchasing procedures.... When will I learn?

proudsub -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 12:24:01 PM)
quote: I should have known right from the start that the bitch was crazy!!!....She was buying cantaloupes without even sniffing them first....I mean, how fucking crazy is that shit? Oh crap, i just came home from the store with a cantalope i didn't sniff. Would it help to go sniff it now or am i doomed as being "crazy"?[:o]

Tannie -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 1:14:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: omegasone He has been doing it going on 30 yrs. He is now in jail for alot of his crimes. If he is in jail, you should be able to provide some sort of proof of his arrest. Police reports, court records, etc. Most states have such a thing available to the general public.

mastersgemm -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 1:24:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie Quick reply: I admit to not getting this. I have met many people online over the years, I have never been scammed. I followed the same simple rules I followed when meeting men anywhere else. I didn't form emotional attachments to screen names, I didn't give money to people I have not met and am not in a live-in relationship with, I didn't engage in mental masterbation or discussion of fantasies online, I didn't do phone sex. I met them as quickly as possible and checked their backgrounds as best as one can. If anything seemed off I discussed it, and if not satisfied, I walked away...just like you do meeting men offline. Stop being so damn desperate for attention, you'll be much better off. You allowed yourself to be taken advantage of, accept responsibility for your role in that, stop blaming other people and move on, be wiser next time. agrees completely - we are not without our intelligence when acting and nor should we get to skirt our part in the play - well said! gem, xo

sambamanslilgirl -> RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! (8/23/2007 1:24:34 PM)
question - why didn't you report him after finding out he's a con to TPTB of CM sparing us from this "i'm here to save my fellow submissives/slaves from this 'dom'" type of thread? not apologizing for being brutally blunt, op, however that would have been the most logical thing to do.

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