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mnottertail -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 8:11:18 AM)

I block everybody, in fact, I can't even tell what this thread is about, it is one big blank screen to me.

Ron



Rule -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 8:57:03 AM)

I have about fifteen to twenty people blocked. Mostly it is for using an illegible font.
 
I have also blocked people out of self protection. If I reply to their posts there is a good chance that a mod will send me an email with a short unpleasant message.
 
I have one or two people blocked for unpleasant behaviour.
 
I have also blocked two people that have some mental deficit that disqualifies them as valid contributors to a discussion.
 
I consider it polite to tell people that I have blocked them and rude to not do so. I know that the mods frown upon that, but in my case it is not childish behaviour. (But infrequently I feel a huge relief when I have blocked someone.)
 
In this thread I have unblocked two people that I had previously blocked.
 
I am still wondering whether it is possible to hold spiritually accountable a vulture for its behaviour. When a predator does not make a clean kill, he may be reproached for that. But what can a vulture be reproached for? I think a vulture should be completely passive. It may withhold help, but that when it actually actively causes harm then it may be held accountable. Hm, this approach does not satisfy me. We know that the vulture of Calcutta did purposely promote poverty and harm.



Mercnbeth -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 9:06:18 AM)

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6. And yeah, like Sinergy.......sometimes it is way fun to poke sharp sticks

Ditto - In fact its my #1 reason, and I'd remove the "sometimes" aspect.



LaTigresse -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 9:24:15 AM)

If only I could actually type, the evil, agreeing type, chuckle I just did upon reading your post Merc.

Yeah it is, pretty much, always fun.

Oh, I used to know a person, when faced with my evil ways, that would tell me "If you had been born a NewYorker, instead of an Iowan, you would be impossible!"  Now I have to ask, was that good or bad?



Aileen68 -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 9:34:24 AM)

The only person that I've blocked is Mother Teresa.  She used to be a real cunt when she used to post on this site. 
Oh I'm gonna burn in Hell for that one.



LaTigresse -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 10:43:57 AM)

Me too, cuz I laughed really hard when I read it.



caitlyn -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 1:22:17 PM)

General, etc ...
 
This thread has finally devolved into my favorite part ... where one of the explosive posters takes the high road and apologizes for his/her part, and all the others sort of sit there and say nothing. [;)][8|]



Alumbrado -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 1:24:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

General, etc ...
 
This thread has finally devolved into my favorite part ... where one of the explosive posters takes the high road and apologizes for his/her part, and all the others sort of sit there and say nothing. [;)][8|]


Which poster is that?  My screen is showing nothing but nice posts from people I like...[:D]



LaTigresse -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 2:29:00 PM)

Yeah, cuz it got all boring and stuff..........................

Actually we just keep checking back to see if the insantity returns.



kittinSol -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 7:02:58 PM)

NEWS EXCLUSIVE:

Christopher Hitchens has just published a new article on Theresa for Newsweek. I thought it would be SOWUIT to include it here:

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The publication of Mother Teresa’s letters, concerning her personal crisis of faith, can be seen either as an act of considerable honesty or of extraordinary cynicism (or perhaps both of the above). These scrawled, desperate documents came to light as part of the investigation into her suitability for sainthood; an investigation conducted by Father Brian Kolodiejchuk, the Canadian priest who is the editor of this volume. And they were actually first published in the fall of 2002, by the Zenit news agency—a Vatican-based outlet associated with a militant Catholic right-wing group known as the Legion of Christ. So, which is the more striking: that the faithful should bravely confront the fact that one of their heroines all but lost her own faith, or that the Church should have gone on deploying, as an icon of favorable publicity, a confused old lady who it knew had for all practical purposes ceased to believe?

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Christopher Hitchens is a columnist for Vanity Fair and the author of “The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice.” His most recent book is “God Is Not Great."
© 2007 Newsweek, Inc.  


[Mod Note:  Please don't paste copyrighted work hwere in it's entirety, especially whenit has a copyright notice attached.  Good Grief.]



dcnovice -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 7:03:59 PM)

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SOWUIT


Translation? I struck out with Google.



dcnovice -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 7:12:32 PM)

Even when I disagree with Christopher Hitchens, I always enjoy his writing. Thanks for posting the Newsweek piece.

I love the quote from the pope to Evelyn Waugh. I wonder which pope it was.



Level -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 7:31:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

Even when I disagree with Christopher Hitchens, I always enjoy his writing. Thanks for posting the Newsweek piece.

I love the quote from the pope to Evelyn Waugh. I wonder which pope it was.


Yes, I've always enjoyed his writing, even back when he manned the ramparts with his commie ex-pals at The Nation.
 
It seems Hitchens is more able and willing to give a slight nod of the head to Mother Teresa, than some posters here. I'm not sure if this surprises me or not.
 
Anyway, thanks for posting it, kittin. It was interesting.
 
Oh, and equally interesting was Hitchens' comment on abortion. [8|]



kittinSol -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 7:35:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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SOWUIT


Translation? I struck out with Google.


I meant to write SWEET, but thought it boring, so I created an onomatopeic version of the word, so it would sound like a bubble-gum chewing teenager would have said it. Sorry it created a confusion :-)



kittinSol -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 7:39:43 PM)

Glad you found it interesting. There are many parallels with my theory that the Church is using Theresa's misery for its own benefit...

He has certainly mellowed his tune a lot since 1994 when he published "The Missionary Position". I think it shows the man's not a fool.

Anyway, it was good to be of service to this illustrious cercle.

Ladies and gentlemen *quick bow and escape on tippy toes.*



Level -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 8:12:48 PM)

We can agree that the Church, often times, and numerous "Christians", use others for their own ends, and some of them surely see her as a high-value "tool" for their schemes. Despite what some may think, I did not give up critical thinking as my faith grew [X(]
 
I would not call Hitchens a fool, either, but I do believe he leans to the side of sensationlism on occasion. Needlessly, as he has plenty of talent.
 
Good night, kittin, and I believe you recently had a birthday; if so, I hope it was a happy one.



kittinSol -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 8:15:49 PM)

Thank you, Level, you are a darling [:)].

Mouah!



SusanofO -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 8:19:08 PM)

My take: Actually, Christopher Hitchens is no stranger to having a "dark night of the soul" himself. He has gone from Agnoticism, to full-blown Athiesm, and back to Agnosticism, in his own lifetime.

The reason he might have written the article, IMO, is that this fact either escapes him completely (or the opposite), or he is just cashing in, and-or it is what he truly believes. Anyway, they are both human beings, so IMO having doubts isn't (to me) all that surprising.

These possibilities (to me) why he wrote this article, unless I miss my guess, put him on at least an equal footing (at least as an individual) with the "wrongfulness" he alludes to about the person he writes about here, and (to me) somewhat explains his attitude about the religious institution he seems to be opposing in his article. 

Also, it's not like some Catholics have never objected to anything about their own church (they certainly have).  

No matter, IMO, I agree with Level, he is slightly (possibly) less biased than some other sources some cited re: Mother Theresa's motives, and I have no quarrel with opposite POV's - as long as the author is willing as well to consider his own motives (which doesn't, IMO, usually  seem to happen), and the pedestal on which he is placing himself as well, by commenting on them as some sort of proof (or heavy insinuation at least) that her religion or motives are "invalid" just because he thinks so (maybe I am assuming things, but that seems to be the direction in which he is headed in this article).

Nonetheless, we all have a right to our own POV. Just thought I'd point out the small irony.

In any case, it was interesting to read, kittensol. Thanks for posting it, and I am no way trying to personally insult you for posting it (really. And  hope your birthday was happy). 



kittinSol -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 8:26:20 PM)

No worries, I don't see insults where there aren't any. Besides, I don't get annoyed by insults: I laugh at them!

Thanks for the birthday wish: it was a miserable birthday, but that couldn't be helped: I am trying to get over some terrible news and collarme.com provides me with the necessary arena to butterfly in a puerile manner through the darkness.



SusanofO -> RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul (8/29/2007 8:36:06 PM)

kittensol: Sorry to hear that. Happy birthday anyway, and glad you were not insulted.

- Susan 



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