RE: Online taboo topics...and the law

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AquaticSub -> RE: Online taboo topics...and the law (8/25/2007 8:40:16 PM)
Not at all. But I do have a fondness for hobbitholes.

Aswad -> RE: Online taboo topics...and the law (8/25/2007 10:05:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: proudsub Subjects which are unacceptable regardless of circumstance include, but are not limited to - minors, bestiality, incest, necrophilia, snuff and criminal activities. Any other questions of acceptability will be determined based on the content of the given essay. Interestingly enough, those have been determined based on content so far. Including this thread remaining alive to this point. That aside, the point is probably that they don't want to come close to liability. Which could be incurred by instigating, facilitating, describing, portraying, etc. such activities, or providing links to same. Quite understandable, given the current legal environment. In any case, to answer the OPs question: others have given the best answer (talk to a lawyer, possibly one off the KAP list), but if that is not an option, it basically comes down to most of that kind of stuff being illegal to possess, although the risks associated with acquiring it over KAD, Gnutella, eMule and the like are fairly limited. However, one might want to consider whether it might increase availability, with possible value to those who produce it as free advertising or increased salience for those who would be inclined to pay for it. As such, one might be said to indirectly support the practice, which effectively takes it out of the realm of fantasy as far as ethics are concerned. Personally, I'd advise against it, and feedback from those who have perused illegal materials indicates that a lot of people do not find actual depictions as arousing as they thought they would. In short, your fantasies will probably provide more entertainment and less personal moral doubts, along with avoiding exposure to potential trauma. Depending on your jurisdiction, drawings may be legal, and high-quality artwork can be an option if so.

Aswad -> RE: Online taboo topics...and the law (8/25/2007 10:11:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Viridana The thing is with taboo fantasies. Even though you don't do anything about it yourself, using online sources for those things creates a demand for those things to be produced in the first place. So someone out there is going to go through with those things in the idea to profit. A good example is child pornography. Although majority of those who seek it haven't done anything of that sorts in real life, just that they are contributing to a demand and therefore keep it alive. Highly questionable hypothesis, unless the OP pays for it. Worth considering, but questionable. Basically, telling people about being gay, or even showing them gay porn, isn't going to make them gay. Same thing goes for the wirings that are essentially illegal to have. The main issue is whether or not it will cause them to get any significant exposure or other form of compensation; those could increase production. Other things are doubtful. A question I'm surprised and ever so slightly apalled that nobody has raised, is that of identifiability. Participants in the things that are illegal would no doubt want to avoid the exposure and identifiability associated with having clips of them circulating many years after the act itself. Excepting certain activities that are not universally illegal, and are practiced consensually, of course. Some do turn a profit of their own volition, but that hardly applies to the CP example. Then again, I doubt that was exactly what the OP was looking for.

LATEXBABY64 -> RE: Online taboo topics...and the law (8/25/2007 10:13:06 PM)
in general yess big brother is watching you.. have you not seen clockwerk orange

Aswad -> RE: Online taboo topics...and the law (8/25/2007 10:25:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64 in general yess big brother is watching you.. have you not seen clockwerk orange I have some degree of familiarity with national and international surveillance infrastructure, both at home and abroad. But there's no need to get paranoid over it. You are small fish to them, at best. That kind of thing is not geared toward you. As far as they are concerned, you are noise on the radar screen, to be filtered out so they can watch for the bogies. You know, like changes in the rate of communication among known hostile groups (traffic analysis) and its correlation to real-world activities like purchases, travel and the like. The ones who target the small fish aren't sweeping the world oceans with dragnets, they are fishing with a regular fishing pole in a regular fishing boat. You're one in millions (or maybe billions by now) of small fish out there, and the number of fishermen isn't really going to make a dent in the small fish. It's playing the lottery. Of course, someone wins the lottery every day, but the odds are still pretty good, unless someone is specifically looking for you because they want to make things suck for you. And that's pretty rare, too. If you're pirating movies or music, however, you might end up with damages secondary to that. The "big brother" issue is one of social hygiene. It's bad policy to have it in place because it could be turned on the populace, i.e. if one were to transition to an oppressive regime at some point, the infrastructure would be in place up front. Political dissidents would face major issues in such an environment. But we're kinksters, not revolutionaries. So neither big brother, nor clockwork orange, has any bearing on this. It's more a matter of whether the MAFIAA (RIAA/MPAA complex) catches you (whether by mistake or not) and decides to go somewhere with it. If they do, you're screwed, but otherwise it's not really much of an issue. Some ISPs do scan for that kind of thing, though, if accessed over the Web.

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