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domiguy -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 3:40:24 PM)

It is kind of a hawt kink....I don't want to do a threesome with another dude...But it would be rather cool to take charge and demand that your sub service another guy....I don't want to do a threesome...Just don't like the idea of some random stranger's balls brushing mine...I don't think that makes me a homophobe does it?



Tarisa -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 3:42:25 PM)

nope it doesn't..jots down no mmf threesome lol



domiguy -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 3:49:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

Give me some credit.  I think I'd bring in at least ten dollars.  Now I'm definitely returning the crock pot that I got you as an engagement gift.


That's cold baby, thats cold.....Fine but you know what will be riding when food gets left out unwarmed....From what I understand Bob makes a mean roadkill chili...Back when we were dating he would always talk about it....(Domiguy looks back a page reaches out his hand towards the monitor and "brushes" Bob's cheek and mouths the words) "roadkill chili."..,.

Aileen, have you ever eaten chili after it sits out for four or five days at room temp?  That shit can kill you! 

Aileen, you do know what the walls of Hell are lined with...don't you?

Mercs right it's time for the first CM Block party!!!



CuriousLord -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 3:51:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

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ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie

Quick reply:

I'd like to know the going rate for a rental slave ? Is it done by the hour? by the night? I think it would be a great way for a chic or her owner to make some serious cash. I imagine it is very empowering for the female (slave) in that dynamic.


*note...have only read the thread up to this point*

as a slave who is at times "hired out" to others by my Master, i can tell you that i have never felt any sense of empowerment. i have no say over who i serve or how, i cannot set my own limits or even enforce the limits my Master may set for others, i am most often in these situations left alone with the Man i must serve, so theoretically he could do anything with me that he wished (and being a pessimist i'm quick to think of the worst case scenario). any money exchanged has nothing whatever to do with me...i'm just the property that my Owner is loaning out. it's much like renting a car...you pay the Company/Owner for the vehicle of your choice and for the time you wish to keep it, drive it around and use it to fulfill your needs, then turn it back in. you know that if you damage the vehicle while it's in your possession you'll have a price to pay, so you're more than likely careful with it. but then there are always those few folks who just don't give a flock and will overheat the engine or leave scratches and cig burns, not caring about the consequences. the only significant difference is that renting out a vehicle is legal and therefore contractually binding, whereas when my Master rents me out it is only a verbal agreement of terms.


Why do you continue with this relationship, given what you've just shared?



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ORIGINAL: Bobgkin
A slave voluntarily gives up all choices but one: to leave*.

She's obviously chosen not to leave.


Wasn't Bobgkin asking why she's chosen not to leave?



CuriousLord -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 3:53:03 PM)

Bah.  You two better kiss and make up.  I was looking forward to seeing a bunch of domieens terrorizing the forum, giving it more of that zesty yet smooth flavor we've come to expect from the brand.



domiguy -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 3:55:47 PM)

It's over...(sob...sniff) ...Coach Ditka says.."People who live in the past are cowards and losers." CL if we were to team up...We could rule the world.  Bob's dead to me now....What ya doing this weekend?

Edited....Sorry about the hijack....No where did all of them ho's run off to?



CuriousLord -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 3:58:03 PM)

The same thing we do every weekend, domi- try to take over the world!



Bobkgin -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 3:58:03 PM)

To no one in particular:

It just occurred to me that in the worst case scenario, we'll never know what happened because Missturbation won't be able to come back and tell us how she barely surivived a really bad situation.

In a worst case scenario, Missturbation won't survive a really bad situation.

I'm reminded of all the prostitutes in the Vancouver area who were murdered by that serial killer.

Just how empowered were they for all the money they took in?

I've never opposed the concept of prostitution. A woman's body is her own to do with as she pleases, and to exploit as she wishes.

Men enjoy no less right than that.

However, I do not believe it is anyone's right to tell a woman what to do with her body, unless she grants that right.

I believe that might be defined as "empowerment".

The obvious consequence (obvious to me, anyways), is that women have no right telling other women what value to place on their body.

If one woman wants to rent out her body for, what, 100$ an hour, that's her business.

If another woman views her body as valued beyond -any- pricetag, that's -her- business.

Again, this is no different than what men currently enjoy.

This is empowerment of the individual.

Note that all of this is a matter of each woman's choice.

And just as there are women who set their own value, whatever it might be, so too are there men and women who seek them out, based in part on how what value these women assign themselves.

And one of those men who sought out prostitutes was one who was a serial killer in Vancouver.

If Missfortunate were to be murdered while on a job, what would her master do?

Would he call the cops, say he was her master and had hired her out and now she's murdered?

Let's say she's critically injured.

Will he bring her to a hospital and explain how she sustained her injuries?

For by the nature of their relationship, I believe the law would hold him personally liable for anything that happened to her.

The law doesn't like pimps.

And while this might argue that he'll be careful whom he selects as a client, it also argues that he'll divorce himself as much as possible to avoid civil and criminal liability should anything go wrong (accidents happen, after all).

Any wonder so many people are concerned for the well-being of prostitutes?

Its fine to talk of empowerment of women. But one man with a knife can disembowel that empowerment in an instant.

It's a real world out there. Idealism is nice if you can afford it. But to deal with that real world requires some real-world pragmatism.

A slave being rented out blind doesn't sound like any kind of real-world pragmatism.

A slave being rented out blind doesn't sound like any kind of "empowerment" of women.

So ya, the OP tripped a whole bunch of alarms for those of us who believe in empowerment of everyone and who posess some real-world pragmatism.

If Missturbation wants to do this under her own steam, taking her own risks at her discretion, doing her own research and arranging her own safeguards, I've no problem.

One need only look at Muhammed Ali to see the rewards of Boxing. If Boxing is legal, so should Prostitution.

But that's not what Missturbation is talking about.

So her master is on the hook for liability, and if he guesses wrong, we'll never know about it, 'cause Missturbation won't be around to tell us about it.

My alarms are still humming away.



daddysprop247 -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 4:06:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

I'm.. sorry to hear about that.

Thanks for sharing.


huh? lol...nothing to be sorry about, i wonder why my post gave you that reaction? as domiguy stated, i am quite content being slave to the World's Coolest Sexiest Most Arrogant Generous Hard-Working Charismatic Cutest Butt-Having Master. [:)] perhaps it is the matter of fact way in which i express the reality of my life that gives some impression of gloom and doom, but rest assured i became slave to this Man with eyes wide open, knowing what would be expected and demanded of me and where his needs, desires and perversions lay. however much we love one another (which is very, very much), i am still property and he treats me as such, as is only proper.



Mercnbeth -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 4:08:22 PM)

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Bumkgin: the OP tripped a whole bunch of alarms for those of us who believe in empowerment of everyone and who posess some real-world pragmatism.


I say the 'Block Party' should take a road trip to find all the other "us-es" in Kawarthas, that keeps being referenced.

Maybe it's the water...?

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domiguy: Bob's dead to me now....What ya doing this weekend?
Very fickle of you - I hope you return all the gifts!



domiguy -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 4:10:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

The same thing we do every weekend, domi- try to take over the world!


Unfortunately...I think that makes me "Pinky."



daddysprop247 -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 4:11:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy


Prop is as cool as the other side of the pillow. Bob, even though we have shared some special and tender times and moments...Don't get on your high horse and start criticizing all the ho's out here....Some of these ho's are spectacular peeps.



dang...*sniff*...that almost brought tears to my eyes...












oh no, wait...just my allergies acting up. [:D]



domiguy -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 4:16:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth


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domiguy: Bob's dead to me now....What ya doing this weekend?
Very fickle of you - I hope you return all the gifts!


It was a rather abrupt ending....But alas, it had to end...For you see Bob's reality couldn't handle my fantasy of Hoing him out...So take back your gifts if you must...The pain is damn near unbearable!



daddysprop247 -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 4:25:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

This isnt anything that would appeal to me personally...having said that, its also NOT my call...i am OWNED property, therefore my Master can do that(rent/loan me out) if He wishes....


Do you consider yourself posessed of a fundamental right to liberate yourself from slavery?

Even animals can run away if sufficiently mistreated. Plants will simply die.

And inanimate objects break.

I realize this might be a difficult question, but if he were to choose to rent you out, would you cooperate without knowing any of the details about who it would be, what would be expected of you, and what if any limits were agreed to? Would you cooperate if it only involved you and the client elsewhere, no other individuals or precautions involved?

Or would you then recognize and invoke your fundamental right to liberate yourself?


all M/s dynamics do not operate under the same dogma. i realize that many live by the "obey or leave" philosophy, but for some of us when we choose to become slaves we give up every right, including the right to leave. only my Master can terminate our relationship, by releasing me, selling me, or permanently giving me away. what he has given me is the privilege (note, not "right") to beg release...which i can safely say he would not grant, just being the kind of Man he is. many slaves do not even have that particular privilege.

the point of my sharing the above is to ask that you please not make assumptions about the values/ways/dynamics of others, based on your own personal ways or beliefs.

oh and for the record, in case it still isn't clear, even if i had such a right i would never wish to leave my Master.



utterlybutterfli -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 5:09:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: missturbation
 
Are crack whores being "empowered" when paid for sex?
If you want to get technical yes. They then go buy the drugs and are empowered by them.


Well, there I was thinking that none of what was being said really mattered to me, given that I am overjoyed that Miss T is getting her kink on in a way that she wants, a kink that frankly gets me hawt too..[:)]

But really (and I am neither a crack addict, nor prostitute) I cannot agree with this point. If I think that someone who is under an addiction so powerful that she/he is selling her body, not for the pleasure of the sex, or the pleasure of extracting money from men for the use of her pussy (or whichever bit) that she is willing to sell her body for it, then she is not empowered. If she shoplifts for the drug, then she is not empowered, if she steals from her mother's purse, she is not empowered. The drug is empowered. Her dealer is empowered. But the prostitute is not empowered for she is simply doing it to feed an addiction and addictions are not empowering.

I think there are women and men that sell sex for reasons of empowerment. I'm sure that there are some do it because thats their kink, I'm sure some do it for the empowerment of doing it to have a good standard of living, but I, like Miss T live in an are of Britain where the range of sexual services can be from $5 to $500. However much the cost the job, if the prostitute is being exploited its still wrong. We can argue all day or night whether the client is exploiting the prostitute or the prostitute is exploiting the client but if the client is picking up a girl on the street wearing almost nothing in the middle of winter charging by the act, rather than the hour - I know who I  perceive is usually holding the reins in this particular exchange.

I know this is a bit of a hijack, I certainly don't wish anything but congratulation for MissT and her arrangement - but i do think its a shame if people can't post their concerns about prostitution in general without a flame.

i.e. PLEASE don't flame me [;)]



BeingChewsie -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 5:35:46 PM)

Wow, really? I would absolutely feel empowered, seriously a man is paying CASH, greenbacks to use pussy, and all I have to do in a nutshell is be a good fuck or take a good beating or complete whatever task he puts me too... which I do anyway..and he is going to PAY R cash...for that?? R never leases anything or sells anything without making a good ROI. I wouldn't be the least bit concerned about not being returned to him in as good a condtion as he leased me in. My being returned in worse condition than sent could conceivably cost R money, be it in medical bills, time out of work for me, time he has to spend picking up the pieces...time is money. Hell will freeze over before he would let that happen. It really isn't like a car rental place, anybody with a valid credit card can rent the car..they have insurance against such damage..in the case of leasing a human, treating a profitable slave like a $29.95 a day ford focus rental seems not only unwise but unlikely if the owner has any business sense....if they destroy the focus the insurance company pays, your corp takes it as a loss, gets a tax break, you get a new focus to rent, and you get paid for all the days you are out that focus. If your slave gets hurt, injured, damaged, totaled and can't turn a profit for days, weeks, months or ever again, you lose what is passive cash flow for you as the owner...that is just bad business. I don't know many people who operate in business to lose money. I don't know owners who loan a slave out with the cavalier attitude of a national/international car rental corporation like enterprise rent a car...unless perhaps if they have a fleet of slaves and have a free endless supply of replacements, immediately available and ready to hit the road and turn a profit. Do you know many owners like that?

I absolutely would feel empowered knowing a man was forking out his cold hard cash for pussy he could probably get for free and with far less stipulations from a submissive woman he met say here or a bar or church.

quote:

ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

quote:

ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie

Quick reply:

I'd like to know the going rate for a rental slave ? Is it done by the hour? by the night? I think it would be a great way for a chic or her owner to make some serious cash. I imagine it is very empowering for the female (slave) in that dynamic.


*note...have only read the thread up to this point*

as a slave who is at times "hired out" to others by my Master, i can tell you that i have never felt any sense of empowerment. i have no say over who i serve or how, i cannot set my own limits or even enforce the limits my Master may set for others, i am most often in these situations left alone with the Man i must serve, so theoretically he could do anything with me that he wished (and being a pessimist i'm quick to think of the worst case scenario). any money exchanged has nothing whatever to do with me...i'm just the property that my Owner is loaning out. it's much like renting a car...you pay the Company/Owner for the vehicle of your choice and for the time you wish to keep it, drive it around and use it to fulfill your needs, then turn it back in. you know that if you damage the vehicle while it's in your possession you'll have a price to pay, so you're more than likely careful with it. but then there are always those few folks who just don't give a flock and will overheat the engine or leave scratches and cig burns, not caring about the consequences. the only significant difference is that renting out a vehicle is legal and therefore contractually binding, whereas when my Master rents me out it is only a verbal agreement of terms.



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 5:53:46 PM)

Bob reminds me back when I was in the AOL chatrooms and the nasty cyber chicks there would tell me I'd end up dead in a gutter somewhere if I kept up my behavior.

Somehow I ended up in a luxury apartment complex in Austin...go figure.  I've no doubt we'll be hearing good things from Missturbation in the future :)



Twicehappy2x -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 6:09:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Somehow I ended up in a luxury apartment complex in Austin...go figure.  I've no doubt we'll be hearing good things from Missturbation in the future :)


I think you are right, from all i've heard about him Mist's owner takes good care of her. And Mist herself is a very smart cookie.
 
I used to hear about all the terrible things that could happen to me for being a stripper (gotcha LA, yup, i used to work at the old 408 Club for Mutsy Manafo and then the Stage Door/Encore for the Murpy/Sappington pair on the Block) and all i got out of that was 120 acre farm paid for in cash.
 
Then i heard an awful lot of horror stories about hanging around bikers and that currently has me in a 3000 sq ft Victorian in my own room, all the trimmings and i am a spoiled stay at home slave.



BeingChewsie -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 6:42:05 PM)

Exactly, I think the reality of loaning a slave for profit is far different from the end up in the gutter line of thought. This is a business transaction, people generally want to profit in buiness and usually want to make more down the road.

quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Bob reminds me back when I was in the AOL chatrooms and the nasty cyber chicks there would tell me I'd end up dead in a gutter somewhere if I kept up my behavior.

Somehow I ended up in a luxury apartment complex in Austin...go figure.  I've no doubt we'll be hearing good things from Missturbation in the future :)



MisterPervert -> RE: Slave for hire!! (8/27/2007 6:52:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

It is kind of a hawt kink....I don't want to do a threesome with another dude...But it would be rather cool to take charge and demand that your sub service another guy....I don't want to do a threesome...Just don't like the idea of some random stranger's balls brushing mine...I don't think that makes me a homophobe does it?


"Quick Scotty! Beam down Lieutenant Uhura and a six pack! There are homophobes down here!" - Captain Kirk



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