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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/28/2007 7:54:45 PM   
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Back in the eighties,there was another scandal involving pages,way before Mark Foley.

One of pages involved, said they were offered cocaine, hash and booze, at parties thrown by the senators and reps.they worked for,in Washington DC.

He mentioned about the gay guys attempting seductions and flirting at the parties.He said there was about 20 men(polititians) involved. Mind you ,pages are young teenaged boys,who are under charge of these politicians(grubbs).

The scandal was buried and no names were ever named,but this guy Craig,with out prompting,came out and denied he was involved. I guess it was his guilty conscience.
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What`s new about this case,is that even after pleading guilty,and paying his fine ,he is now claiming  he never did it,and only wanted to make it go away fast,etc.He`s claiming to have plead guilty.in order to supress the story,as weird as that sounds.

I don`t think he`s saying this stuff to the nation or for truth`s sake.He`s doing this for the edification of his voters.This is something that won`t go away,so he`s doing what scoundrels do,lie and lie some more,until they`re shown the door.




http://www.idahostatesman.com/localnews/v-print/story/143801.html

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Until the Mike Rogers report in October and the Roll Call story on Monday, rumors about Craig were grounded in the 1982 congressional page scandal. Craig denied involvement in 1982, but the timing of his statement fueled rumors that lasted decades. Among them were that Craig married shortly after the scandal to cover up his alleged homosexuality.
Craig and the then-Suzanne Scott had their first date on Valentine's Day 1980, when Craig was making his first run for Congress. Craig proposed six months after the scandal, on Suzanne's birthday, Dec. 28, 1982. They married in July 1983.
About a year before the marriage, on June 30, 1982, 13.3 million viewers of CBS News heard page Leroy Williams allege he had sex with three House members when he was 17.
The following day, Craig issued a statement saying he'd received calls from reporters saying they were going to publish his name in connection with the scandal. His statement called the allegations "part of a concerted effort at character assassination."
"I have done nothing that I need to be either publicly or privately ashamed of. I am guilty of no crime or impropriety, and I am convinced that this is an effort to damage my personal character and destroy my political career."
Craig alone — among 535 members of Congress — issued such a statement.

Maybe he`ll get a show on Fox News.It`s his kind of audience.

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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/28/2007 8:59:30 PM   
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Here's CBS-13's RE-ENACTMENT of the incident...





Okay, Fargle. You've just gone too far this time. Alex Jones, Prisonplanet and youtube are one thing, but dammit, CBS??? For the love of God, Fargle, consider your credibilty!

CBS= Can't Believe Shit. The legacy of Dan Rather.


CBS? You mean WESTINGHOUSE BROADCASTING? You know... Westinghouse, the guys who make the nuclear reactors... Hmmmm... Come to think of it... GE BROADCASTING makes nuclear reactors for the navy, too....

I would suggest that neither Corporation broadcasts *anything* other than *exactly* what they want broadcasted.

Boy, that whole "Dan Rather" thing really did deflect the legitimate criticism of the lack of documentation recording Bush's Honorable Service, ( as he was avoiding combat ).

I *still* ain't seen no receipts for jet fuel and/or registers of hours operated... Hmmm... How would Comrade Bush train, without expending fuel flying??? Hmmmm....

But hey, some people have lower expectations.



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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/28/2007 9:08:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		From the beginning, I've kinda been wondering what the crime was.  Tapping your foot in a bathroom stall is a crime?  There's more to this story.  That's why he pled guilty so fast.  As for what he's been saying since then: it's a classic example of what happens when homophobes are exposed as homosexuals.  They lose all sense.

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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/28/2007 9:49:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		When one has sex(or tries to) in public places,they`re taking a huge risk,straight or gay.

I`m getting that more went on then just foot taping,otherwise why would Craig be pleading guilty?

Remember George Michael?

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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/29/2007 1:23:29 AM   
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Boy, that whole "Dan Rather" thing really did deflect the legitimate criticism of the lack of documentation recording Bush's Honorable Service, ( as he was avoiding combat ).

I *still* ain't seen no receipts for jet fuel and/or registers of hours operated... Hmmm... How would Comrade Bush train, without expending fuel flying??? Hmmmm....

But hey, some people have lower expectations.




I don't get it.  Are you implying that what Rather and CBS did was OK?  Running a story with bogus evidence because you really want to believe the conclusion?

I'm far from a Bush fan, but when a "news media" outlet puts out lies just because they really hate him isn't something I'd condone.  They should be ashamed.

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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/29/2007 2:30:59 AM   
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Boy, that whole "Dan Rather" thing really did deflect the legitimate criticism of the lack of documentation recording Bush's Honorable Service, ( as he was avoiding combat ).

I *still* ain't seen no receipts for jet fuel and/or registers of hours operated... Hmmm... How would Comrade Bush train, without expending fuel flying??? Hmmmm....

But hey, some people have lower expectations.




I don't get it.  Are you implying that what Rather and CBS did was OK?  Running a story with bogus evidence because you really want to believe the conclusion?

I'm far from a Bush fan, but when a "news media" outlet puts out lies just because they really hate him isn't something I'd condone.  They should be ashamed.


Not only that but that threatened the integrity of a presidential election.

Dan Rather was an idiot. He got angry because Republicans were bashing Kerry's military record. So he took it upon himself to create forged federal documents to back up his claim against Bush's military record. Now what Rather was reporting may very well have some truth to it. But he went well beyond the line and created false documents to back up his claim. Which not only is a clear violation of journalistic ethics, but it shows he really isn't that great of a reporter if he can't find proof and has to resort to fake documents. At least the GOP bashed Kerry with actual quotes and actual people who served with him.

That testimony Kerry gave to the Senate after Vietnam was devastating to his presidential bid. That seriously hurt his image.

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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/29/2007 5:02:56 AM   
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Boy, that whole "Dan Rather" thing really did deflect the legitimate criticism of the lack of documentation recording Bush's Honorable Service, ( as he was avoiding combat ).

I *still* ain't seen no receipts for jet fuel and/or registers of hours operated... Hmmm... How would Comrade Bush train, without expending fuel flying??? Hmmmm....

But hey, some people have lower expectations.




I don't get it. Are you implying that what Rather and CBS did was OK? Running a story with bogus evidence because you really want to believe the conclusion?



Stop pretending the media is Bush's enemy. They are active participants.

What Rather and CBS did was GREAT for Bush. It gave him a opportunity to deflect the REAL, LEGITIMATE criticism of Bush's cowardice.

quote:


I'm far from a Bush fan, but when a "news media" outlet puts out lies just because they really hate him isn't something I'd condone. They should be ashamed.


Stop pretending that CBS isn't Bush's friend, and active assistant. Rather was setup to take this fall, so that all the Bush Supporters could point to Rather and say, "See, Bush *DID* serve honorably", when all we know was "Rather didn't present correct documentation".

That doesn't mean that Bush's Cowardice *ISN'T* documented.

I still say there *should be* records of Bush flying. You know... HIS PILOT'S LOGBOOK would be a good start...



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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/29/2007 5:35:17 AM   
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Boy, that whole "Dan Rather" thing really did deflect the legitimate criticism of the lack of documentation recording Bush's Honorable Service, ( as he was avoiding combat ).

I *still* ain't seen no receipts for jet fuel and/or registers of hours operated... Hmmm... How would Comrade Bush train, without expending fuel flying??? Hmmmm....

But hey, some people have lower expectations.




I don't get it.  Are you implying that what Rather and CBS did was OK?  Running a story with bogus evidence because you really want to believe the conclusion?

I'm far from a Bush fan, but when a "news media" outlet puts out lies just because they really hate him isn't something I'd condone.  They should be ashamed.



The story wasn`t bogus.There`s no proof,other than bush`s word,that he completed his national guard duty.If there was evidence,we would have seen it.


CBS got a document they thought was real.They didn`t produce the document or forge it,as some have suggested.

And they vetted the story, by letting the white house see the it before it aired.They could`ve said at that time, that the document wasn`t real.They knew it and still let CBS run the story anyway.Kinda dis-honest on the white house`s part,especially when you know how much "we`re victims" mileage they got out of it.

Now CBS apologized and fired Rather.On the other hand,lol,Fox News sued in court,for the right to lie to America,but are they held to any kind of standard by republicans?!

The reason why people believed the story, is that it`s true.The document was not original,so it was questioned.
And there was no law suite against CBS.Again,because the underlying facts are correct.You can`t prove libel,if that`s the case.

Bush was no victim.


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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/29/2007 5:43:37 AM   
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Boy, that whole "Dan Rather" thing really did deflect the legitimate criticism of the lack of documentation recording Bush's Honorable Service, ( as he was avoiding combat ).

I *still* ain't seen no receipts for jet fuel and/or registers of hours operated... Hmmm... How would Comrade Bush train, without expending fuel flying??? Hmmmm....

But hey, some people have lower expectations.




I don't get it. Are you implying that what Rather and CBS did was OK? Running a story with bogus evidence because you really want to believe the conclusion?



Stop pretending the media is Bush's enemy. They are active participants.

What Rather and CBS did was GREAT for Bush. It gave him a opportunity to deflect the REAL, LEGITIMATE criticism of Bush's cowardice.

quote:


I'm far from a Bush fan, but when a "news media" outlet puts out lies just because they really hate him isn't something I'd condone. They should be ashamed.


Stop pretending that CBS isn't Bush's friend, and active assistant. Rather was setup to take this fall, so that all the Bush Supporters could point to Rather and say, "See, Bush *DID* serve honorably", when all we know was "Rather didn't present correct documentation".

That doesn't mean that Bush's Cowardice *ISN'T* documented.

I still say there *should be* records of Bush flying. You know... HIS PILOT'S LOGBOOK would be a good start...




Even though CBS is a corporate entity,with profits as their primary motive.the right needs to make them the boggy man,b/c it fits nicely into the narrative that the mainstream media has a left-wing bias.

This way,... they can cry victim and also,....justify all the under-belly tactics they use.Like Fox New`s "right" to lie to America.Or the swift-boater type lying,etc.,etc.


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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/29/2007 6:00:25 AM   
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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/29/2007 6:06:05 AM   
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Boy, that whole "Dan Rather" thing really did deflect the legitimate criticism of the lack of documentation recording Bush's Honorable Service, ( as he was avoiding combat ).

I *still* ain't seen no receipts for jet fuel and/or registers of hours operated... Hmmm... How would Comrade Bush train, without expending fuel flying??? Hmmmm....

But hey, some people have lower expectations.




I don't get it.  Are you implying that what Rather and CBS did was OK?  Running a story with bogus evidence because you really want to believe the conclusion?

I'm far from a Bush fan, but when a "news media" outlet puts out lies just because they really hate him isn't something I'd condone.  They should be ashamed.


Not only that but that threatened the integrity of a presidential election.

Dan Rather was an idiot. He got angry because Republicans were bashing Kerry's military record. So he took it upon himself to create forged federal documents to back up his claim against Bush's military record. Now what Rather was reporting may very well have some truth to it. But he went well beyond the line and created false documents to back up his claim. Which not only is a clear violation of journalistic ethics, but it shows he really isn't that great of a reporter if he can't find proof and has to resort to fake documents. At least the GOP bashed Kerry with actual quotes and actual people who served with him.

That testimony Kerry gave to the Senate after Vietnam was devastating to his presidential bid. That seriously hurt his image.


Bwahhh!

ROTFLMAO
Wait just a minute...Did you just say,"integrity of a presidential election"

Hold on,I need to work out all the laughter and amusement,at that statement.

I think you qualify as "cool-aid drinker".lol




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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/29/2007 7:59:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, considering all the electronic voting machines have been PROVEN vulnerable to the simplest of manipulation, ( that's why the Calif. Sec'ty of State DECERTIFIED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM! ) it's funny that someone would allege that Rather's broadcast of VALID charges would in any meaningful way affect the election...

WHERE'S YOUR PILOT'S LOG BOOK, COWARD-GEORGE?





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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/29/2007 1:57:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK... explain this to me then....(as I've not cared enough to pay attention to the deal).
Why does Bush need to prove anything about his military record?  Was he charged with a crime concerning these "actions"?
Then, please do, tell us what the standard for evidence is that you require, and how is that consistent with all the stances you take concerning Bush and/or the medias supposed bias.

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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/29/2007 4:09:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Why does Bush need to prove anything about his military record?"

He committed to serve, by flying for 6 years, instead of flying and taking the chance of dying in combat.

It is alleged that he DID NOT fulfill that commitment, which, if true, would mean he lacks the integrity to be trusted in any position of responsibility.

" Was he charged with a crime concerning these "actions"? "

Some would suggest that he should have been, and/or the current violation of 18 USC 371 should be prosecuted.

Think of the MEN who flew combat and died instead of Bush, who apparently couldn't even keep his shit together for the six years he committed to.


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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/29/2007 6:02:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		This guy is a liar and a hypocrite! He's one of these "born again Christian" Neo-conservatives.

I am a Christian but its people like him that really make me worry about the people that take the name and figure that its a combination bullet proof shield and weapon.

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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/30/2007 3:14:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		They released the police interview today.
This guy is lying.
"I use that bathroom all the time."
The bathroom in question is listed on gay websites and is way far away from where the Senator's plane gate was.
Also, he said he; "picked up a piece of toilet paper from the stall floor behind me."
Gee, when is the last time you picked up a piece of toilet paper from the floor of a public restroom in an airport that is probably used by hundreds of people everyday?
And he tried to change his story in the tapes too.
The cop said that the Senator put his (left) hand under the stall divider and that he saw the Senator's wedding ring.
Why couldn't the Senator have used the public restroom right near his gate?
"I go to that restroom all the time."
And there's now a tape of  another man who said he had "relations" with the Senator in Central Station in Washington, D.C.
And the Senator talking about their feet bumping said; "did we bump, maybe."
Now I only use public restrooms when neccessary but I have never "bumped" feet with someone sitting in the next stall.
You would have to contort your leg purposely way around to do that.
If I (have) to use one for #2 I get in and out as fast as possable.
This guy is lying.


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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/30/2007 4:15:51 PM   
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They released the police interview today


The transcript: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3543062&page=1

BEST line came from the interviewing officer at the end: "Embarrassing, embarrassing. No wonder why we're going down the tubes."

AGREED!

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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/30/2007 5:01:28 PM   
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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/30/2007 5:38:28 PM   
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RE: Senator pleads guilty to disorderly conduct - 8/30/2007 5:42:42 PM   
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This guy is lying.


Some reporter needs to ask him if he's hairy guy




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