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I think this is just fucked up.
They charged him, for tapping his foot, and putting his hand under the stall.
And very few have a problem with this? Wow!
I don't have a problem with this busting people for having sex in public bathrooms, but maybe just maybe the burden of evidence, should be more than one cops testimony of actions that could conceivably be random behaviours.
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I did listen to the whole interview, and the senator repeated said he wasn't guilty, and the cop repeatedly said if he said he was guilty there'd only be a small fine and this would never leak. So, if one was a senator, you have two choices, as given by the cop.
A. Plead guilty pay fine,. no one finds out.
B. Plead innocent, media circus.
But what happened was he plead guilty, and then it leaked. The cop was patentedly rude on the tape as well, regardless of the truth of the matter, he is a shining example of an arrogant cop.
I don't know if he's innocent or not. Hell, it's all up to the cop to decide. Did their feet bump. Senator says no, Cop says yes. Did he put his hand under the stall. Senator says no, cop says yes.
It's all on the testimony of one cop, that was rude. And I still don't see how those actions can even be criminal.
It would seem to me some tangible piece of evidence would be required, like in prostitution. They can't just arrest you for talking to a prostitute(A very good indicator you would like illegal sex), they have to get you to say it. Is foot tapping, and some other vague sigsn, proof, and all those sigsn were verified by a single officer.
Sounds like bullshit to me.
He might be guilty, but from what I heard there is zero evidence of substance.
"They charged him, for tapping his foot, and putting his hand under the stall.
And very few have a problem with this? Wow!"
It`s only a disorderly conduct charge,a misdemeanor.Not really a big deal,and,....he might beat it, if he can get a do-over.As for his constituency,that another story all together.
"I don't have a problem with this busting people for having sex in public bathrooms, but maybe just maybe the burden of evidence, should be more than one cops testimony of actions that could conceivably be random behaviours."
On the tape.he attempts to explain away the hand signal, by saying he was picking up a peace of toilet paper off the floor.Give me a fuck`n break!How many people do you know, who would pick toilet paper up off of the floor of a public bathroom?!?Maybe a toilet slave or scat kinkster,but not regular people.That explanation is just a bit to cheeky
I did listen to the whole interview, and the senator repeated said he wasn't guilty, and the cop repeatedly said if he said he was guilty there'd only be a small fine and this would never leak. So, if one was a senator, you have two choices, as given by the cop.
A. Plead guilty pay fine,. no one finds out.
B. Plead innocent, media circus.
1st off,everyone who`s an adult,knows that cops can legally lie ,in order to get a confession.
A lawyer, should also know this,even a senator should know this.jeezzzz...
2nd,people who are innocent don`t plead guilty,period.I don`t care what "choices" Craig thought he had to make,you don`t admit to things you haven`t done.
But what happened was he plead guilty, and then it leaked. The cop was patentedly rude on the tape as well, regardless of the truth of the matter, he is a shining example of an arrogant cop.
That`s naive .Again,any adult knows that police blotters are public and disorderly conduct cases would most always show up in the paper.This guy Craig was able to suppress this story for more than three weeks.The arrogance of power is as fucked up as the hypocrisy.There was no "leak",that`s ridiculous.
It was Row Call(for god`s sake),who finally got a copy of the police record.I think the big Idaho paper was helping Craig suppress the story.Wouldn`t surprise me if they did.It`s a testimonial to how awful the press has become.
Liberal press,my ass!!
I don't know if he's innocent or not. Hell, it's all up to the cop to decide. Did their feet bump. Senator says no, Cop says yes. Did he put his hand under the stall. Senator says no, cop says yes.
It won`t really matter.Again,the charge is a misdemeanor,with only a fine involved.No big deal.It`s his voters in Idaho,that are going to have something to say about this.They don`t like it,at all.The national GOP has given him till tomorrow to quit,or get punished,GOP style. lol
It's all on the testimony of one cop, that was rude. And I still don't see how those actions can even be criminal.
There`s no criminal charge,here.But to republicans,he may aswell as comitted murder or rape.
Sounds like bullshit to me.
He might be guilty, but from what I heard there is zero evidence of substance.
Of course it`s bullshit,but the only bullshit is in the public arena,and in the political world.
The charge is real enough,though.His actions and reactions are real enough.And the ass kicking he`s going to get from his rat GOP friends is going to be very real
I don`t think anyone,including republicans, care about his private life or sexual choices.There are plenty of openly gay politicians and officials,both liberal and conservative.And many more who serve in the closet(hate that term).
It`s the hypocrisy, that people can`t stand.It`s the hypocrisy,stupid.......
Who wants to bet, that there`ll be an" I`m not gay"pledge,much like the "no new taxes" pledge,that republicans got into before?
< Message edited by Owner59 -- 8/30/2007 10:07:37 PM >
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