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RE: are they bi? - 8/29/2007 10:06:52 AM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		If he does boys and women he is bisexual. seriously yourself.

you're the one asking seeking answers, and perhaps what you see as obvious isn't obvious to anyone else.

Bottom line, rule the world, two minutes, WTF?, you people are useless, isn't gonna give you any uplifting insight.

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RE: are they bi? - 8/29/2007 10:10:18 AM   
instynctive


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Status: offline 		I'd say "bi-curious", if he really wants a label.

Me?  I'm just.. "sexual".  Deal with it.


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RE: are they bi? - 8/29/2007 10:11:17 AM   
minta


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Status: offline 		i call myself bi by command...i wont go find women on my own but if thats what Daddy wants then that what i do.

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RE: are they bi? - 8/29/2007 10:45:04 AM   
BoiJen


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Status: offline 		I am a lesbian boi. I don't fuck men period.But I like suckin dick and getting my butt fucked. If a guy were to touch me after I made my position clear I'd pin his ass and rip his fingers from their sockets. So no liking suckin dick and butt sex doesn't make you bi

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RE: are they bi? - 8/29/2007 10:45:34 AM   
ObedientYYC


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Status: offline 		If he has the desire to meet men on his own for sex, he is bi.
If he likes the idea of kissing a man, he is bi.
If he lusts after naked guys in the locker room, he is bi.

If he likes the idea of being forced by a woman to be bi... then I think LadyPact had the right term: Situationally bi.   In that case you probably have no worries that he is going to run off with a man,  or otherwise be unfulfilled by a relationship with a woman.  

I don't prescribe to the viewpoint that "forced bi" is necessarily just giving someone "permission" to do what they really want to do... the spark may well just come primarily from the power dynamic - being forced to do something very taboo in order to please you.


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RE: are they bi? - 8/29/2007 12:20:53 PM   
SDFemDom4cuck


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Status: offline 		I just had this conversation with someone a few months ago regarding what is considered bi and what isn't. I'll note that these are MY definitions of bi. Yes, I said definitions (plural), because I think it's more of a gray area than black and white. Personally, I don't see the performance of any sexual act, whether it's kissing, oral or intercourse, as the basis of defining anyone to fit within a specific label or box. It simply means to me that they are open to sexual pleasure.That being said...this is how I explained my definitions of bisexuality.

Bi via submission. Someone else referred to it as situationally bi. Pretty much the same idea. Meaning that a sub wouldn't go out and seek someone of the same gender on their own to enjoy sexual pleasure. However, were they directed to do so, they will. They'll do it for Me. For My pleasure period.

There's forced bi, which is like situationally bi, but in a tied down and forced situation. My experience has been that this is often a first time situation. In a previous relationship the first experience at fellatio had to be in a forced situation to get him over the hump (no pun intended) and from there on it was a situationally bi scenario. Others I've discussed this with have also said that they would need to be forced to experience this for the first time.

Then there's full on bisexual. My definition of that is someone who is capable of having a loving committed relationship with either gender. Not just acquiesce to sex, but they are capable of maintaining a relationship with either.

You've asked him if he's bi and he's said "no". Why do you not believe that he doesn't know himself well enough to give you the correct answer?  Why would you not trust his answer? Perhaps a better question to ask him would be "what is his definition of bi?".

His definition may be similar to mine in that it would be based on the ability to maintain a relationship with someone of the same gender rather than submitting to sexual acts. he may simply be conditioned to see submitting to sexual acts as a given within a D/s relationship, regardless of gender, in order to please his Dominant. While he may say he wants to do these things, what is the context of his doing so? Does he want to do them on his own? Or does he want to do them under the premise of doing so to please his Dominant?

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RE: are they bi? - 8/29/2007 12:27:50 PM   
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yes before gping furthur with him I need to know Ive asked him he says no but hos behavipor tells me other wise, i just dont want to go furthur in a relationship if im not all he wants im very possesive lol


What, you think you are only woman in the entire world he would get a boner around?

Heterosexual people aren't only attracted to one person. That's part of the point of a monogamous relationship - that someone wants you enough to forgo others. Bisexuals are just as capable of this.

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 8/29/2007 12:29:44 PM >

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RE: are they bi? - 8/29/2007 12:42:42 PM   
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if a sub wants to suck cock and love anal sex does that mean that they are absolutley bi? I have an ltr sub whom wants to do this and enjoys anal, can someone plse help with any feedback



No one is absolutely anything--and I would think as someone who is both a Pro and a lifestyler, your own experience should help you either (A) make that determination or (B) sit down and have a good old fashioned chat--the fact that you are still wondering tells Me, maybe you have missed the communication phase.

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RE: are they bi? - 8/29/2007 1:19:01 PM   
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If he likes the idea of kissing a man, he is bi.


I'd have to disagree with this, otherwise I agree with the rest of your post. I have a male friend that is as gay as gay can be, but he's all about playing tonsil hockey with either gender.


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RE: are they bi? - 8/29/2007 1:25:21 PM   
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If he likes the idea of kissing a man, he is bi.


I'd have to disagree with this, otherwise I agree with the rest of your post. I have a male friend that is as gay as gay can be, but he's all about playing tonsil hockey with either gender.



I have to agree here.  I do not identify as bisexual or even bicurious.  However, women are phenomenal kissers.  In my experience, better than men.  I've just never wanted to maintain a sexual or personal relationship with a woman. 

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RE: are they bi? - 8/29/2007 1:28:30 PM   
WickedBDSM


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I have a question, more than feedback.
 
Does it really matter?


Amen!  who cares?  why does there need to be a label?

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RE: are they bi? - 8/29/2007 4:06:15 PM   
RaynaSub


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Status: offline 		Lets see if the definition of bisexual means sexual acts with both
sexes, what do you think?

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RE: are they bi? - 8/29/2007 4:52:59 PM   
iammachine


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Lets see if the definition of bisexual means sexual acts with both
sexes, what do you think?


Go go gadget wikipedia!


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RE: are they bi? - 8/29/2007 5:25:54 PM   
e01n


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Status: offline 		For me, it comes down to the person involved and not just the plumbing.

I've tried enough men that I love to know that it just doesn't work for me in the same way that it does with a woman that I love. There's just something different about the men that just makes it feel more like masturbation than intercourse, if that makes sense. Could there be someone out there that is the exception to this? Sure, but I've yet to meet them and I doubt I ever will.

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RE: are they bi? - 8/30/2007 12:35:34 AM   
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yes before gping furthur with him I need to know Ive asked him he says no but hos behavipor tells me other wise, i just dont want to go furthur in a relationship if im not all he wants im very possesive lol


Rather than worrying about whether your boy fits some particular definition of bisexuality, it might be more useful to ask him what his specific desires are and whether they'll prevent him from being with a "very possessive" woman. He may be willing to set aside his penchant for cock in order to pursue the relationship with you. Or perhaps his needs can be satisfied within the bounds of that relationship. Have you talked about strap-ons? Or is this something you're definitely not interested in?

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RE: are they bi? - 8/30/2007 1:41:33 AM   
iwearpanties


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Status: offline 		as s ubmissve male im not sure if you all see things as a submissve might .... i dont know  and have seen many may sub seek forced bi as you all call and the same for the situatuionally bi  but i figured most who want either are more sub and cd/ sissy type  .. this has alwasy been in my fantsays and dreams when i sub too others

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RE: are they bi? - 8/30/2007 8:05:53 AM   
mistresszariah1


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Status: offline 		W/we do strap on play which is fine with Me and I have forced him one time to suck cock, he says he is not attracted to men but likes to suck cock, s this leaves me confused. I have talked to him about this and says he wants me there to make him and would not pursue this is on his own. I does seem that he gets really aroused at the when W/we talk about it and is hard to arrouse with just plain sex with Me, I know I am attractive so this is my concern. I do know he loves Me but as for the ltr Im a bit hesitant. He wont tell Me that is is bi I think its a cover up so I was asking your apinions thks alot for the feed back

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RE: are they bi? - 8/30/2007 11:31:12 AM   
SDFemDom4cuck


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ORIGINAL: mistresszariah1

W/we do strap on play which is fine with Me and I have forced him one time to suck cock, he says he is not attracted to men but likes to suck cock, s this leaves me confused. I have talked to him about this and says he wants me there to make him and would not pursue this is on his own. I does seem that he gets really aroused at the when W/we talk about it and is hard to arrouse with just plain sex with Me, I know I am attractive so this is my concern. I do know he loves Me but as for the ltr Im a bit hesitant. He wont tell Me that is is bi I think its a cover up so I was asking your apinions thks alot for the feed back


I highlighted the parts that jumped out at me. Perhaps it isn't that he enjoys doing it as much as he enjoys the humiliation of doing it for you. Just a thought.


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RE: are they bi? - 8/30/2007 2:51:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistresszariah1

W/we do strap on play which is fine with Me and I have forced him one time to suck cock, he says he is not attracted to men but likes to suck cock, s this leaves me confused. I have talked to him about this and says he wants me there to make him and would not pursue this is on his own. I does seem that he gets really aroused at the when W/we talk about it and is hard to arrouse with just plain sex with Me, I know I am attractive so this is my concern. I do know he loves Me but as for the ltr Im a bit hesitant. He wont tell Me that is is bi I think its a cover up so I was asking your apinions thks alot for the feed back


I highlighted the parts that jumped out at me. Perhaps it isn't that he enjoys doing it as much as he enjoys the humiliation of doing it for you. Just a thought.



Some guys will have bi as a hard limit ( no pun intended ) Others wont have many things they dont wish to do as a limit, as the idea of being forced, IE doing it only to please Mistress, is a turn on in itself. The trigger for the submissive is in the act of submission and not the act in question.

I hope someone understands that, as i have confused myself 

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RE: are they bi? - 8/30/2007 3:04:01 PM   
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i just dont want to go furthur in a relationship if im not all he wants im very possesive lol


If your not all he wants?  Then if that is the case I am sure you would not be with him anyway!

Regarding your original question, I did like AquaticSub's post and WinsomeDefiance has a good point regarding females as the best kissers!

Have you made your mind up?  Have you got the answer you where looking for?

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