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e01n -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (8/30/2007 6:39:31 AM)

I think that what will be the new trend has already been around for quite some time. For as "liberal" as we are, we're frighteningly conservative as a community...

I see an intersection of teledildonics and electrostimulation play, especially in connection with vocal command interfaces, multicontact display surfaces and the availability of FLOSS multimedia software. Combined with the new trend in DVDs to provide multiple camera angles and increased net bandwidth, live and recordable virtual spaces become quite feasible. And how old is that idea - from the early 70s, if I recall correctly?

Will there be a place for RL play? Of course. But I see the future as continuing to bring people closer together (LD relationships) - but while keeping everyone isolated and in their own domains (computing being a solitary act).

Transportation speed hasn't kept up with telecommunications. It will still be a hassle to hook up with that wonderful Dom you've had fun with who lives in Nan Matol... but it will be easier to keep in touch electronically. A secondary set of standards will become even more prevalent - those who prefer a fleshy experience will consider themselves superior to those who prefer the virtual, and vice versa. Eventually, it will reach a point where one group will invalidate the other completely, creating 2 wildly divergent communities.

Is that a good or bad thing? Neither, to me at least. I'd still be all switchy - I like the idea of teledildonics, but I prefer having the capacity to touch Her or Her to touch me...

Eh, such is my sci-fi moment today.




ThunderRoad -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (8/30/2007 7:13:33 AM)

Sex slave robots with "special" attachments?

Actually, I see increased use of computers to allow for long-distance sex play over the next 20 years.  Attachments that can extend ones reach and such.




CreativeDominant -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (8/30/2007 7:41:34 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirEbonyPhoenix

As we venture further into the 21st century, I have to wonder: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? Could we possibly do things that have never been imagined or thought of before?


Cuddling...Oh My God...[&:]




LATEXBABY64 -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (8/30/2007 8:00:13 AM)

alien sex




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (8/30/2007 8:08:22 AM)

I can't remember the title of the movie (the one with Sylvest Stalone) where people did not exchange bodily fluids but engaged in mental masterbation via headsets.  That actually looked pretty interesting to me.  The virtual headset, getting into their mind and making them moan aspect.

Something about the whole concept of being emotionally intimate like that, tripped a trigger some how.  Don't get me wrong.  I love tongue wrestling and messy drench the sheets til you are all hot and swetty and gasping for air sex too.





e01n -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (8/30/2007 9:55:49 AM)

"Demolition Man"

Slightly better depiction IMNSHO - "Sleeper"

The concept is called teledildonics. And lo, it be old... see my post above [;)]




babyblues -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (8/30/2007 10:11:08 AM)

nothing profound to say except.... hi Sir E ~  fancy meeting You here.... have a wonderful weekend....
 
sweet




DiannaVesta -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (8/30/2007 10:17:21 AM)

I do phone sessions and know that there are many fantasies out there (you have no idea, trust me) that should never become reality and many guys that wouldn’t even attempt realizing even the simplest fantasy play. Having said that I think the future of sex will bring us more virtual reality where we can explore alone & go places we never could in the here and now.




Rover -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (8/30/2007 10:28:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

I do phone sessions and know that there are many fantasies out there (you have no idea, trust me) that should never become reality and many guys that wouldn’t even attempt realizing even the simplest fantasy play. Having said that I think the future of sex will bring us more virtual reality where we can explore alone & go places we never could in the here and now.


That makes perfect sense on several levels.  Not only because many fantasies cannot be made into reality, but as you noted many should not be made into reality.  Virtual reality would allow for that fantasy to be "experienced", while retaining the perfection associated with fantasy (ie: an experience that is less than perfection can utterly ruin a good fantasy).  And it would allow for the experience of fantasies that should not become reality for a variety of constraints.
 
John




e01n -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (8/30/2007 10:39:48 AM)

Right, but there's a dark side to all of this.

Combine a RealDoll with a servo system, pre-programmed expert system for reactions, IPv6 connectivity to allow it to act as a sound and motion server of it's own and you're starting to approach the idea of uploading a persona into an android. Teledildonics provides a feedback system if participation is desired, but it's not necessary.

What happens when truly sick people get hold of this? I'm sure there will be a market for serial rapists, pedophiles, sexually motivated serial killers for this sort of thing... I mean, if I have the fantasy to do X to someone, yet the legal ramifications are such that I don't act on it, am I better off engaging "the toy" for that purpose? Or not even indulging that shadow portion of my persona and thus having it explode uncontrollably? (no, not specifically me - this is purely hypothetical)

And what would happen in the face of an economic collapse where selling oneself as such a "toy" makes sense if it feeds your family halfway around the world? Are there any differences? Should there be?




e01n -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (8/31/2007 10:39:38 AM)

Further thoughts on my previous post:
Likewise, with the possibility of "buffered" experience, would you as a submissive want to have the ability to jack in to receive some of the "experience" of being "killed" as such a toy? If there's "snuff tops," it implies that there would be "snuff bottoms" as well. Granted, I'm speaking of using a technological intermediary and not the actual murder of another. But is it the physical act of killing, or the intentional expression that will define murder in the future? Will there be Temperance leagues to stand against the "jackers" and their sick fantasies?

While it'll be possible for things to develop in a nice and genteel manner with pleasant civilized airs, the history of mankind suggests that there will be people like the ones I'm describing... and probably more than we'd like to imagine.




SirEbonyPhoenix -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (8/31/2007 3:27:28 PM)

Aw, thanks, sweet! It's a joy to see you here as well!




LadyLynx -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (8/31/2007 3:57:14 PM)

hmm.  I think it will be easier for newbie tops to learn different stuff like flogging and bondage. ethier with a "bot" or in VR.  and I agree with e01n.




ranrich -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (8/31/2007 3:58:16 PM)

Atlantisking and petdave, you are right on with the predictions about electrics and electronics as many of that type of device is already here and more are on the drawing boards. There will soon be more electronic devices designed for the female and there will one day be sensors that will monitor the human body and modulate the device so that an orgasm can be delayed indefinitely but the bottom  kept on edge as long as the top wishes.




AlexanderC -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (9/1/2007 12:29:26 AM)

Stem cell research will enable the radical enhancement of buttock sensitivity.




Rafters -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (9/1/2007 9:37:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirEbonyPhoenix

As we venture further into the 21st century, I have to wonder: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? Could we possibly do things that have never been imagined or thought of before?


There's no way I can guess 93 years from now, but I can go for 9

Economically, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
Computers replace a lot of jobs from acting, to phone support, to accounting.
People managing the computers get more money due to their power, the people replaced have no human jobs to get.

To reduce their feeling of guilt, the rich hire people for make work jobs. Unemployment will stay below 10% but expect to see the number of low level servant roles to jump, ditto backing dancers in videos, counter staff at shops, coffee fetching interns etc at the expense of stable mid range jobs.

Anti Pedo chemo/mechanical/electrical castration systems get perfected by the vanilla taypayers, and promptly perverted for recreational chastity play. Before being stuck in reverse for recreational anti-chastity play.

Plastic surgeons replace external corsets, girdles and padding, with smart synthetic underskin materials and can shrink or expand on demand. Expect people to change their body shape during the day depending on whether they want to look professional or seductive.

Those stainless steel balls currently inserted under the skin of the penis, get replaced with mini remote control vibrators.
In fact expect to see the erogenous zones updated with things that will blow their partners mind
Expect the price of vanilla prostitution to plumment as the modded boys and girl get the premium prices.

Assuming society doesn't leapfrog physical means of getting endorphins, and switches to updated versions of stimulating the brains happy places directly.

People crack the problem of supplying power to false limbs. Healthy people go to the third world for an insurance compatible "accident and amputation", before returning to the ethical first world to get the superior replacement limbs that give them the edge.
Dom's get given the password to access the limbs remote debug mode, so they can control them. Expect to see a lot of rich people uncontrollably spanking, slapping or masturbating themselves while screaming at the smug person across the room for mercy.
Somebody always take things to far, so expect to see ER reports going into gruesome detail what happens when 48 hours of non stop, machine wanking rubs the flesh off down to the bone.

Black boxes for humans, become popular in risky industries. Updated versions of the MS "life recorders" already in beta, they record everything a person see's and hears and transmitts it home.
Lazy Doms fit their sub's out with them and send them out on shopping trips, and nightlcub pickups.
Spammers hire people to walk round talking about their products, and monitor them to make sure they're complying, and sell the footage of complaints to the hit reality TV show "oww my balls"
[:D]




DANGLERS -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (9/1/2007 9:45:15 PM)

In light of current global climate change......UNDERWATER BDSM [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m8.gif[/image] lol




e01n -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (9/2/2007 2:58:11 AM)

Rafters has a good point about the growing divide between haves and have-nots... but staying in my "darker than thou" train of thought:

The growing American Empire will fracture even further between Blue and Red with some Black& Red and Green thrown in as well. Eventually, someone will come up with brilliant idea of buying their own country to flee to to indulge in personal pleasures. Chances are the neighboring territories will be economically "poor" and will offer an influx of persons in a service capacity - indentured servants and slaves.

While it won't necessarily be a "pirate utopia," the possibility of setting up a meritocracy exists in practical terms. It really depends on who's running the show in Sandmutopia (to steal the name for a minute)...

I can see a massive amount of money to be made in this, offering NSA fantasy trips for those wanting/willing to get a bit messy in things that will get them executed in any other country. Investors can give me money via my email address on the other side [;)]

{yes, that was a joke. We can joke about this under the ToS, right?}




Rafters -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (9/2/2007 3:28:40 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: e01n
Rafters has a good point about the growing divide between haves and have-nots... but staying in my "darker than thou" train of thought:
The growing American Empire will fracture even further between Blue and Red with some Black& Red and Green thrown in as well.


I'm not American, so I'll have to take your word for America having an empire.

quote:


Eventually, someone will come up with brilliant idea of buying their own country to flee to to indulge in personal pleasures. Chances are the neighboring territories will be economically "poor" and will offer an influx of persons in a service capacity - indentured servants and slaves.


Why invent a new country? Existing countries provide these services already.
Guided tours of live battle fields and Secret Police "ride alongs" for their friends are options for the price of an airfare and tips.
Any country with sweat shops producing vanilla goods under conditions of economic and judicial slavery, has the demographic to staff a pleasure slave force.

quote:


I can see a massive amount of money to be made in this, offering NSA fantasy trips for those wanting/willing to get a bit messy in things that will get them executed in any other country. Investors can give me money via my email address on the other side [;)]


Allegedly a couple of the private contractors riding around in Iraq were paying to be there, instead of being paid. If they set up an interogation centre, or shot randomly out the window as they drove down the road, who would care?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/27/wirq27.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/11/27/ixworld.html

And in NZ, any single men making return trips to Bangkok, is assumed to be a kiddy fiddler, due to that countries bargain retail prices for virgin kiddies.





FullCircle -> RE: What do you think will be the kink of the future in BDSM? (9/2/2007 8:19:56 AM)

Brain poking. You know you love that grey spongy matter admit it you pervs!


(edit: misplaced 'that')




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