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SusanofO -> RE: What is a submissive mind? (8/30/2007 3:20:20 PM)
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Well, IMO, if you don't have free will, then you cannot make a decision to be submissive to a particular Dominant (note: Use of this word Dominant is in reference to males or females), and you might be running around being submissive to every person declaring themself a Dominant.
Sidenote: For anyone's record, I don't view submission or Dominance as any "gift", I view them both as personal decisions in reference to a relationship one decides to have consensually with a particular person (or if Poly, more than one person).
I think some submissives might be more prone to be what some might see as "meek" and to agreeing with more people, due to personality (or mood, or whatever), but even that might not mean they agree with all Dominants, or people in general. I think one can still be gracious when one disagrees, but IMO being a submissive (or a slave, for that matter) does not necesssarily mean a person isn't going to get all-fired-up about some issue, or fight for their beliefs.
Devotion (to me) doesn't necessarily equal unthinking adherence to ideas proposed in the world at large, or by any particular person. Hows devoted can you really be to an idea you have failed to examine?
I also think this idea of devotion is different from anyone's specific submissive-Dom relationship, where more adherence to commands is required (whether the submissive agrees, or not). Accepting a Dominant's decision, whether you agree with it or not, is the basis of a Dom-sub relationship, IMO. Which doesn't necessarily mean the Dominant (if he wants to keep a submissive content anyway) isn't wise to maybe listen if a submissive has strong feeling sabout X or Y, and take them into consideration, before making a final desicion on an issue.
But that applies (for me) to someone's decision to devote themselves to a particular person, not every person simply declaring themselves a Dominant. Even when two people do decide to devote themselves to eachother in that context, those people are still individuals with individual feelings and thoughts (although in a Dom-sub relationship the sub has agreed to the Dominant's final word, even if he/she disagrees).
Disagreeing with someone's ideas doesn't necessarily mean you can't still respect them as a person, IMO. It can take awhile to get to really know some people, IMO.
But if someone is so far apart from your personal belief sysem, in so many areas, that you can't fathom not arguing with them constantly (*in a way that would promote a lot of contention, rather than maybe help induce your own growth), then why be with them as your particular Dominant?
- Susan
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