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Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 8/31/2007 10:16:39 AM   
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This is one of my recent articles I wanted to share with everyone here. I hope to elaborate on it more later. Thanks & have a safe holiday.

Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit
 

What sexually motivates a man to want to be called a worthless pig? Why would a grown man want to wear ridiculous costumes and act like a complete fool? What forces a man into shameful acts to get a hard on? Why do we find sexual taboos so exciting?


  Erotic Complexities
  The complexities of erotic humiliation are far too vast to cover in one article. My hope is to dispel a few myths and create a deeper understanding of how or why humiliation works. When it’s a good thing (constructive) or when it’s damaging (destructive). My views are from real time experience and some of my methods should not be used by novice players. I also suggest that before you make any attempt to engage in heavy humiliation play that you speak to an experienced professional dominatrix that has real time experience in psychological play. I’m not saying that she will cure you or offer an outlet but that she can shed light on the subject to help you determine if you’re avenue is constructive or destructive.

  There are a lot of people that struggle with submission in the first place. Seven out of ten people that explore sexual submission often battled with some form of depression. They struggle with their desires and longings to be submissive. Rather then seeing the strength it takes to walk the path of submission, society views it as weak and an escape from responsibility. You add kink to it and the taboo elements seems to push conflict into overdrive. Lets face it, if the average person seen a man dressed like ballerina at the beach they would point, laugh and ridicule. Very few, if any would smile and conclude that he was having a good time. In fact all of us, to some degree are infected with guilty created by society’s expectations. We can remain trapped or begin to explore the many alternatives available.

  May Roads to Submission

Many submissives use humiliation as a pass to explore submission. It can be forced or purposely induced, however both share the same element; In order to feel total loss of control, deep submission, they do so through varied levels of humiliation. These variations could be as subtle as exposing a body part or as extreme as forcing someone into a submissive act in public. Some people are humiliated simply by any act of submission. The degrees are intricate because you’re dealing with human psyche and emotional issues. These could be from childhood or even from a past life. No one really knows why people are affected the way they are or how the same incidents can affect people differently. It seems to be a synchronistic chain of events that leads us to being a kinky adult.

  Everyone has a hot button that drives them into erotic space. Some guys look at tits and ass to get aroused while others wear panties. What turns us on can be simple or extravagant, common or taboo, but no doubt it’s a personal issue. The more complex our desires the more difficult it is to articulate and allow someone to share that space with us. I know that many of you have experienced rejection and misinterpretation of your sexual desires. This is both frustrating and depressing because it makes you feel very alone and kind of freakish. It’s not easy explaining to your lover that you want to wear Mary Jane shoes, sing and dance for her while she laughs hysterically and then orders you to get off. Even if she agrees there is no real dynamic because she’s acting and you’re walking on egg shells so that she doesn’t freak out. Communication is the key, however finding the right key for your lock is the real trick. It’s easy for all to give advice, “Sit down and talk about your feelings, negotiate and communicate.” However many of you know, first hand, how very difficult it can be.

  Constructive Humiliation


  You’ve all heard the term, “facing your fears” as a way to surmount difficult challenges. In some cases subtle acts of humiliation are used to create awareness or to get beyond a fear. Some people are extremely humiliated at the fact that a sexual taboo makes them hot. In this case humiliation can be very exciting as long as the person is mentally and emotionally stable. When in a trusted situation they will experience safe doses, enjoy the sexual benefits and then move on. If the trusted opportunity does not present itself then most likely they’ll harbor their fantasies and save it for masturbation. If they are lucky enough to have a trusted situation then most likely they will move beyond their fears and enjoy the kinky escapade. Of course there is always the chance that it will backfire and leave them feeling guilty, however most cases it becomes a process of exploration into their sexuality.

  Finding a good and safe platform to explore can often be tricky which is why so many people never realize their fantasies much less share them with another person. It takes two emotionally stable people to begin the journey together. At first communication is delicate and cautious. Both parties must act responsibility and adhere to the rules of safe, sane and consensual. Expectations and guidelines are discussed carefully and both parties should benefit from the experience.

  Destructive Humiliation


  Some fantasies are never meant to be realized, however I feel that it’s ok to keep them in your head IF they erotically arouse you and you are able to close the door, carry on with your life and keep it all in perspective. If you fantasize, become aroused and then harbor guilt and depression that affects your daily non-kink life then there’s a problem. It’s also a problem when a person preys on the weaknesses and vulnerabilities of another person.

  An example would be the person that erotically enjoys humiliation because it brings him to an extreme level of submission or he/she can not get into that space without some form of humiliation. This person is use to being in control in his/her daily life and often has a lot of stress. Losing control wipes the stress away and can sexually stimulate him/her. I’ve talked to people that can’t enjoy sex any other way because they are unable to slow down and enjoy sex unless they relinquish control and completely let go. Humiliation is often used in this case as they humble them to the extreme desires of their Mistress. The owner of their soul and the person that now makes all the decisions. Time and consideration is allowed for this escape and when it’s over its placed back into the appropriate compartment. This is common and healthy.

  Then there is the person that has fantasies and might even become obsessed with them especially during emotionally stressful periods. It becomes such an obsession that it might interrupt their daily routines and they might even turn into destructive behaviors. A destructive behavior might be the inability to concentrate on anything else or become compulsive where they are completely absorbed beyond normal reasoning. They might suffer from deep depression and feelings of worthlessness. Like an alcoholic they can’t seem to get enough and will drown themselves into destruction. For instance they might go into debit doing professional sessions or using phone sex services even though they can’t afford it. Like alcoholism it begins to take over their life and harm them and the people that are close to them. Of course this could be any sexual addiction but in the case of humiliation it can be more destructive then anything else.

  People that experience this should approach it like any other type of addiction because the root of addiction is always deeply rooted. The desire for the “high” or escape becomes an addiction they can no longer control.

  A strong desire does not constitute an addition. If someone has a strong sexual desire this does not mean they are obsessed even if it appears this way at times.

  Common Male Humiliations

    Sissy: I have encountered this the most. There are sweet effeminate sissies that enjoy frilly dresses and age play. They enjoy humiliation as a vehicle to relinquish control but also to tap into a type of innocence. Humiliation emasculates them into a space where they can explore their feminine side. It’s different then cross-dressing because it disassociates him and humiliation is what sexually drives him.

  There are slut whore sissies that first emasculate themselves and then intoxicate themselves with “forced” actions such as forced bisexuality, strap-on dildo play and the like. Some might have fantasies about being with the same sex because of desire or they might find being forced to suck another man’s cock the epitome of submission. In order to come to terms with it they sissify themselves which gives them permission, so to speak to be “forced” into the act. They may have no desire to be with a man *really* and prefer to be sexually overpowered by a woman with a strap-on.

  Most sissies love to administer adoration. They often seek approval and love to please.

  Human Toilet: This isn’t always an act of humiliation, however for those that enjoy it because it is humiliating; it’s an extreme form of subjugation. I enjoy golden showers; however I don’t always look at it as a form of humiliation but an honor. Still when I piss on a male’s cock and balls to make my territory I guess this could be a little humiliating. Lol

  Human ATM, Financial Slavery: This type of humiliation can vary from mild to extreme. As I mentioned earlier, everyone has a hot button; something that pushing them into submission or loss of control. Money is power to some men and the thought of being used this way renders them powerless. They enjoy the sacrifice and of turning over their hard earned pay. This is what distinguishes them as a man, or so they think, by “turning it over” they relinquish control. This is more of a fantasy then a reality. You might see guys throwing around tons of money to “get off” on the experience because it’s a fetish; however it’s rare to see this as part of an ongoing relationship. It is, however obviously easy for this fetish to become destructive and careful considerations must be made to keep this type of humiliation play healthy and sane.

  Dog Training: This is a type of dehumanization and can be mild or extreme. It’s relatively safe play and every submission whether you think you’re into it or not, should at least give it a try. I have a series of audios for dog training (among other fantasy audios) at Sex Slave Academy that can help you explore this. Of course it’s always best to have a partner or someone with you; you should still explore the various options. It can be affectionate or extremely dehumanize and degrading.

  Human Rug/Ashtray/Furniture/Crushing/Trampling: Is another form of dehumanization that can vary with different people. Whereas a slave/worthless male are sub-human a rug or other isn’t human at all making it simply and “object”. 


  Public Humiliation: Again this can be mild or wild but whatever the case many things should be considered. You should always be respectful of the public and in my opinion this falls under consensual as much as anything else. You should carefully consider all the repercussions of your actions so that no one, including you gets hurt.

  It could be a man wearing ladies earrings (not unisex but ridiculous earrings) or me ordering a gentleman’s meal at a restaurant OR my favorite is ordering a nice large meal for me and letting him have the leftovers. I admit that I’ve engaged in some extreme scenes that I would not recommend for just anyone but I always carefully considered the repercussions.

  Public humiliation should NEVER be spontaneously explored UNLESS you’ve discussed it ahead of time and have properly negotiated each other expectations. I say this and yet I don’t always do this but keep in mind that I have a tremendous amount of experience in this area and in carefully studying a situation. Be careful before you embarrass someone in public even if it is all in kinky fun!

  I personally enjoy public humiliation as a dominant because it also challenges some of my fears within morality. I am fascinated by human nature and it’s almost spiritual for me.

  Whatever Floats Your Boat!


  I’m sure here are others I have not covered here. I’ve outlined the most common I come in contact with most often. I personally feel that humiliation play can be extremely hot and even healthy if it’s constructive and kept in perspective. I really enjoy someone that is adventurous and willing to try new things, especially things they are unfamiliar with or find a little scary and humiliating. The high I get from humiliation is the power exchange and when I experience it it really moves me into a higher state of dominance. I love to laugh and have a good time with humiliation. It just makes it fun and everyone can use a little fun! Just keep it in perspective, lighthearted and above all sane and consensual.     

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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 8/31/2007 10:29:04 AM   
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MsVesta I gotta say I just about always love reading your explainations and comments as they are well thought out and satisfying to read.

When I hear "humilation" for me it's about humility not embarassment. And yeah humiliation does loads for me ona sexual level physically and spiritually. It brings me back down to myself and out of the rest of the world. Humiliation helps me find the gratitude I feel all the time and tap into it in a constructive manner emotionally and physically. There's a lot I do alone and with Her. On my hands and knees in the kitchen scrubbing a floor is totally humiliatiing especially when She's not even there to see it. Being Her "puppyboi" is fun and light in the sens of play as well as re-enforcing the ownership She has over me. Being Her furinture and Her toilet is about pleasing Her body and creating Her comfort and enjoyment. Being "Hers" is everything to a boi like myself. And the more objective the more posessive the actvities become the more humiliating it feels. And the better it is for me. and from what I can tell the better it is for Her.

Thank you for posting this MsVesta.


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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 8/31/2007 11:35:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

MsVesta I gotta say I just about always love reading your explainations and comments as they are well thought out and satisfying to read.

When I hear "humilation" for me it's about humility not embarassment. And yeah humiliation does loads for me ona sexual level physically and spiritually. It brings me back down to myself and out of the rest of the world. Humiliation helps me find the gratitude I feel all the time and tap into it in a constructive manner emotionally and physically. There's a lot I do alone and with Her. On my hands and knees in the kitchen scrubbing a floor is totally humiliatiing especially when She's not even there to see it. Being Her "puppyboi" is fun and light in the sens of play as well as re-enforcing the ownership She has over me. Being Her furinture and Her toilet is about pleasing Her body and creating Her comfort and enjoyment. Being "Hers" is everything to a boi like myself. And the more objective the more posessive the actvities become the more humiliating it feels. And the better it is for me. and from what I can tell the better it is for Her.

Thank you for posting this MsVesta.



Thank you. I know exactly what you mean and a very important aspect to bring up. I would love to talk more about that part of it.

AND I am sure you are lovely on your knees scrubbing a floor, bring furniture or other. :)


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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 8/31/2007 1:50:24 PM   
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MsDianna,

I have had experienced those feelings of guilt, when i crave for various humiliations.  I have often wondered why i crave humilition, it can tear at me sometimes. Its common for me regret my behavior afterwards, and yet i crave it again and again.  I am very interested in Your findings MsDianna, this is a subject for me which there are far more questions and answers.

thank You sincerely,

david

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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 8/31/2007 5:32:58 PM   
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I've often heard it said that many male submissives have a lot of responsibility and stress in their non-scene lives, and therefore desire the escape of non-responsibility, powerlessness, etc., that comes from submission, and perhaps humiliation.

Do you find this to be true?

Is there any corollary with Dommes who enjoy being in the power position, and doing the humiliating, in-scene?

Regards, ATP

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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 8/31/2007 9:52:51 PM   
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Excellent article. Thanks for sharing it Dianna


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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/1/2007 12:59:58 AM   
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I was going to post, but BoiJen made most of the points I would. Humiliation, for me, is about reinforcing my place in the relationship dynamic, and only occasionally about the dirty-nasty feelings that, when they happen are soooo yummy.

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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/1/2007 2:49:41 AM   
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MsDianna,

I have had experienced those feelings of guilt, when i crave for various humiliations.  I have often wondered why i crave humilition, it can tear at me sometimes. Its common for me regret my behavior afterwards, and yet i crave it again and again.  I am very interested in Your findings MsDianna, this is a subject for me which there are far more questions and answers.

thank You sincerely,

david


Please feel free to ask questions and share. That's the purpose of the forum and why I posted it. If you want more privacy and one on one there is a link to speak to me at my web site. The url is in my sig.

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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/1/2007 3:15:01 AM   
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Does the feeling of humiliation diminish as one gets used to a certain act. i dont smoke so being used as an ashtray may even be considered revolting. Yet the thought Mistress may or may not procede can be hot ( pun intended )  The fear of being made to do something is often more powerful than actually doing it, if that makes sense.

Either way its all good.... Nice OP Ma`am

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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/1/2007 3:46:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Aimtoplease101

I've often heard it said that many male submissives have a lot of responsibility and stress in their non-scene lives, and therefore desire the escape of non-responsibility, powerlessness, etc., that comes from submission, and perhaps humiliation.

Do you find this to be true?

Is there any corollary with Dommes who enjoy being in the power position, and doing the humiliating, in-scene?

Regards, ATP


Absolutely! You don’t have to be naturally submissive or dominant to enjoy the space. Everyone has a base nature, so to speak and you move along a type of polarity throughout your day/life. I consider myself natural dominant; however there are many facets to my nature and some are passive. The sexual space I really enjoy is when my dominance is seduced and I can project intense energy.
 
 
 
I’ve had relationships where my “slave” was not naturally submissive and very dominant in their day to day life; however he was always submissive towards me. He could very easily shift gears and enjoyed doing do. I also had a female submissive that was naturally submissive, most of the time, always with me but every now and then she loved being dominant towards males. It wasn’t an anger thing but a space she sometimes liked to visit. It’s natural.
 
 
 
Energy is passive/receptive or projective. We all strive for balance; however life throws you into extreme shifts sometimes. Nothing can bring you back center then an extreme shift, such as a person that is very aggressive in his/her daily life, accumulates a lot of stress and desires extreme submission to relinquish it.
 
 
 
I’m not sure exactly what you mean by your last question. I enjoy moving into intense domination. As I mention in the part about public humiliation there is also a challenge for me because many people would be embarrassed being part of such scenes even if they were not the one directly getting laughed at.
 

 
When I top someone we are exchanging power and if I’m not dialed in then I won’t enjoy the exchange. There are times when I’m topping someone and I don’t feel they are on the same page and it’s frustrating because I have no real place to channel my energy. This is why there is training and why a slave is taught/prepared how to not only receive but how to seduce that energy from me. Think of it as fore-play (eg) where a submissive strokes my ego, fuels my dominant passions and then lays back to accept my gifts.
 
 
 
 


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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/1/2007 4:09:19 AM   
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Absolutely loved this article.  Thank you for posting it.

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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/1/2007 4:26:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Does the feeling of humiliation diminish as one gets used to a certain act. i dont smoke so being used as an ashtray may even be considered revolting. Yet the thought Mistress may or may not procede can be hot ( pun intended )  The fear of being made to do something is often more powerful than actually doing it, if that makes sense.

Either way its all good.... Nice OP Ma`am


"The things that we call humiliating in a bdsm encounter generally are things that look like humiliation, but have some overt or covert sexual component to them that causes a completely different sexual emotion than what we normally consider to be humiliation. There absolutely is a huge difference, and the term "humiliation" really does come up way short in terms of exactly what we are talking about. However, I have not found another word that adequately differentiates erotic shame from the more vanilla term of humiliation, so I too continue to use the term humiliation when describing our session activities and the emotions that result." quote from another board.


I quoted this because you see if there is no sexual/erotic component then its simply a vanilla embarrassment. I think this is where the confusion is because as stated in the quote there really isn’t an adequate word. Its going to be different for everyone and the relationship dynamic, such as the case with boijen is what inspires it to be in the first place.

Does someone get use to it? Well if there is a constructive goal, for instance I am balancing machismo, then the humiliations are designed to change energy, therefore they will get beyond that challenge and accept the humiliation. Maybe they don’t fully get *use* to it but they certainly learn to respect it.


Once in NYC I painted a males fingernails “pussy pink”. I then had him take me shopping. It was winter and we had coats on. Of course he wore gloves and stuck his hands in his pockets. He thought he was scott free until I handed him an item and told him to pay for it. He had to take off his gloves to get his credit card and complete the transaction. Of course the women behind the counter noticed. He was shaken but by end of the day his energy was different, he was more relaxed and he didn’t care about the polish or who seen it. We had dinner at a very busy and popular restaurant in the city. No gloves, no coat, we drank nice wine, laughed and had a good time. All the while he flashed his pussy pink nails. He turned fear into fun. We had a blast.
 


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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/1/2007 4:37:31 AM   
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Yes i fully undertand Your previous post. Most of what we do has a sexual/erotic dynamic. Maybe not so much in the literal sense, but more in the respect of shared intimacy. What i was alluding to about getting used to it, i was thinking more of starting to enjoy it, as against still finding it humiliating.

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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/1/2007 4:37:56 AM   
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Absolutely loved this article.  Thank you for posting it.


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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/1/2007 5:29:45 AM   
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MsDianna,

Its obvious that You have much more experience than i do in this great lifestyle.  As a submissive, i am kind of in the closet, society looks down on "weak and submissive" men.  So after sessions of humilitions, usually with a professional or through online training, i have remorse.  Thinking i did something wrong, but it was over powering at the time.  Do You have any suggestions on how to overcome my feelings of guilt?

thank You MsDianna,

david

p.s. the new website looks great.  is it me but is the font really small?

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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/1/2007 6:05:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

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ORIGINAL: Aimtoplease101

I've often heard it said that many male submissives have a lot of responsibility and stress in their non-scene lives, and therefore desire the escape of non-responsibility, powerlessness, etc., that comes from submission, and perhaps humiliation.

Do you find this to be true?

Is there any corollary with Dommes who enjoy being in the power position, and doing the humiliating, in-scene?

Regards, ATP


Absolutely! You don’t have to be naturally submissive or dominant to enjoy the space. Everyone has a base nature, so to speak and you move along a type of polarity throughout your day/life. I consider myself natural dominant; however there are many facets to my nature and some are passive. The sexual space I really enjoy is when my dominance is seduced and I can project intense energy.
 
 
 
I’ve had relationships where my “slave” was not naturally submissive and very dominant in their day to day life; however he was always submissive towards me. He could very easily shift gears and enjoyed doing do. I also had a female submissive that was naturally submissive, most of the time, always with me but every now and then she loved being dominant towards males. It wasn’t an anger thing but a space she sometimes liked to visit. It’s natural.
 
 
 
Energy is passive/receptive or projective. We all strive for balance; however life throws you into extreme shifts sometimes. Nothing can bring you back center then an extreme shift, such as a person that is very aggressive in his/her daily life, accumulates a lot of stress and desires extreme submission to relinquish it.
 
 
 
I’m not sure exactly what you mean by your last question. I enjoy moving into intense domination. As I mention in the part about public humiliation there is also a challenge for me because many people would be embarrassed being part of such scenes even if they were not the one directly getting laughed at.
 

 
When I top someone we are exchanging power and if I’m not dialed in then I won’t enjoy the exchange. There are times when I’m topping someone and I don’t feel they are on the same page and it’s frustrating because I have no real place to channel my energy. This is why there is training and why a slave is taught/prepared how to not only receive but how to seduce that energy from me. Think of it as fore-play (eg) where a submissive strokes my ego, fuels my dominant passions and then lays back to accept my gifts. 
  

You have so wonderfully articulated this aspect of wooing our dominance.  I, too, find it a delightful, necessary element of a more satisfying session where my space is at its highest.  When coming from a sub of a naturally dominant nature, I find it all the more satisfying. 

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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/1/2007 6:59:47 AM   
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MsDianna,

Its obvious that You have much more experience than i do in this great lifestyle.  As a submissive, i am kind of in the closet, society looks down on "weak and submissive" men.  So after sessions of humilitions, usually with a professional or through online training, i have remorse.  Thinking i did something wrong, but it was over powering at the time.  Do You have any suggestions on how to overcome my feelings of guilt?

thank You MsDianna,

david

p.s. the new website looks great.  is it me but is the font really small?


Thank you. You can also increase the size of fonts in your browser. I am going to ask and see if I can globally increase the font too. I also have a difficult time with it.
 
 
 
I would need to know a bit more about your needs and the degree of humiliation. Still I’ll give you a generic answer and how I think everyone should approach their sexual desire kinky or vanilla.
 
 
 
Sexual pleasure can be mental, emotional and psychical. Your sexual needs should only be a part of your life, not your entire world. You give it a priority and then you create a compartment for it within you- mind, body and soul. You investigate and discover how to turn it into the best it can be by adding elements and in essence decorating your “thing”. When you feel it needs attention you take it out in all its glory… you embellish is and really enjoy it. Appreciate the fact that you have this in your life and how very special you are to not only realize it but have the ability to explore it at all. When you’re done tuck it back into the compartment nice and neatly knowing you have access to it any time you need to. Always remember and tell yourself, “This is a small part of my life and it does not entirely define who I am as a person.”
 

 
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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/1/2007 1:00:34 PM   
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Great article Dianna -- it's good that some of these fellows will see that humiliation isn't a dirty word and in the context of a trusting, erotic power exchange relationship, it can definitely be an enhancement to one's submission.

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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/2/2007 7:47:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Yes i fully undertand Your previous post. Most of what we do has a sexual/erotic dynamic. Maybe not so much in the literal sense, but more in the respect of shared intimacy. What i was alluding to about getting used to it, i was thinking more of starting to enjoy it, as against still finding it humiliating.



Politesub,
For Mistress and I, this is something we both enjoy and find mutually arousing, espcially in public.  While it may seem humiliating by definition to the outside vanilla world, it is also an act of submission in the dynamic of our D/s world, both publicly and privately.  Being called her 'slut' for example while in private, is something which many submissives would be very pleased (including me); depending on the dynamic they have with their Mistress.  Thus the reason the word humilation isn't quite adequate to describe the dynamic of what is really happening in this kind of play as what appears humiliating is actually stimulating and can be something of which the submissive is proud of which runs counter to what is the norm for our society. 
 
The eroticism of the interchange/power-exchange usually isn't obvious to the casual observer.  It's typically a hidden secret that's happening between the Mistress and her submissive while in public except to those knowledgeable of our lifestyle.  Public scenes of this sort at lifestyle events are of course usually well understood by most.  I hope this helps clarify things for you.
 
 - pixel
 
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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/2/2007 8:07:04 AM   
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I love learning. Thank you for posting your article and the responses were equally enlightening.

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