feastie
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ORIGINAL: feastie
Punishment is for those who lack the creativity to achieve the results they want in any other way, in my opinion.
I always respect your opinion and wisdom, feastie, even if I do not always agree. This statement above, however, was too universal for me to not comment on. In some cases (such as my own, at least previously), punishment is the only language a slave can understand, simply because of her background and history. And punishments can be extremely creative, without inflicting any corporal pain whatsoever. I've had punishments which have caused me to break through enormous internal barriers and had cathartic effects. In my case, punishment was always accompanied by lengthy, ongoing discussions, analysis, and/or exercises to learn the problem and how to overcome it.
While I don't wish to hijack by turning this thread into a debate on punishment vs. no punishment, I do feel that while in some cases, what you said is true, I have to absolutely disagree with your statement above, which appears to relect an "absolute" to me.
OG, please note that I did say, "in my opinion", which means that others may not share the same belief. Of course you and anyone else are welcome to disagree. That's the beauty of being individuals.
That said, for the droves for whom the belief is that there is no other way, or think that it is just because it's been what they've read in a junk mag or seen in an equally junk vid or in a chatroom, the concept must be introduced that it is not always an ideal form of interaction. There are multiple facets of WIIWD and not a single one is the only way.
You must admit, that there are many people out there doling out punishments to others who are not fit to do so. While your personal experience is a grand one, lucky girl, there are many others whose are not nearly so beneficial. Many are downright detrimental.
All in all, it depends more on the people directly involved than any of our opinions. The same dominant might treat two different submissives/slaves differently, because said submissives/slaves are different.
I've done with attempting to be politically correct on these boards. I no longer try to make everyone happy in the way I post or what I have to say. The only persons I have to please are my dominant and myself. So while, I might soften my thoughts with a phrase such as "in my opinion", I'm also not going to sweat over my writing to make sure that I haven't offended anyone. It's actually not possible, as it will offend someone, sometime.
It's usually not my intention to offend anyone, as I think you well know, OG, and of course I meant no offense to you or your master or anyone else for that matter. However, I do believe that punishments are unnecessary and the same results can be achieved with different methods.
My objective in my response to the OP is to interject the possibility that punishment is not always the goto action.
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