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Aileen68 -> Pain Thresholds (9/3/2007 6:15:21 AM)

I'm not a huge masochist, but I've found that the more I experience pain the more I'm able to tolerate it.  Do you find that you become less affected by pain as time goes on and that you need to up the levels in order to get that desired effect...that rush from the pain, that ability to get into subspace, etc.
If this is the case, do you ever worry that there may come a time where you have to go to extremes in order to satisfy your masochist needs?





leftofcenter -> RE: Pain Thresholds (9/3/2007 6:58:29 AM)

Oh yes, and that's a dangerous time.  You end up taking risks you maybe shouldnt, and you can end up becomming injured...and not realizing what you've done till the damage IS done.  One thing I've tried to avoid that is experimenting with different "kinds" of pain, if you like "thuddy" switch to something stingy, or slappy, or sharp or pointy or pinchy.

One of my incarnations was to stop focusing so much on thuddy(which I love) which can crack bones, tear muscles and such, and switch to stingy...which I used to HATE, but have found that I really like it now.  It just takes a different acclimation, and the subspace is different too.  I got way too comfortable with the subspace that thuddy sensations brought me, so it was a struggle to get used to a stingy sensation enough to "get off" on it, but when you add the other elements of a scene....D/s or M/s or bondage or maybe sensory deprivation....you can get there.

But back to the risk, my advice, as you MUST have more intense, heavier, perhaps more dangerous edgy kinds of play is to really think it through.  If you've gotten comfortable going with the flow with someone you are comfortable with...and dont negotiate anymore....take the time to do that again with the heavier play.  Sometimes you cant "unring that bell" if you go too far and allow yourself to be hurt...I've done it, and besides the physical damage, it's mentally damaging too...as well as emotionally, just on a bunch of different levels.

If you want to or can "take a break" from playing for a while...your tolerance will decline and you can ramp up again, although it never takes as long to get back there as you'd hope.  I dont play much these days, and that's ok...when I do play again I know I'll be able to play at a safer level...and get the endorphins I need from less dangerous play....at least for a little while...lol.

Good luck!




sweetnurseBBW -> RE: Pain Thresholds (9/3/2007 7:19:12 AM)

I have built up a tolerance to some things. I am a masochist and there are things I do not like. Not all forms of pain are pleasurable to me. Canes I don't seem to tolerate for very long. I do notice that I do build up a tolerance to the things done more frequently. I don't think it is a bad thing if you recognize how far you can go. I don't worry about not being able to satisfy the masochist in me, thats why we vary play so I don't get too used to something.




Cyntilating -> RE: Pain Thresholds (9/3/2007 7:25:22 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen68

I'm not a huge masochist, but I've found that the more I experience pain the more I'm able to tolerate it.  Do you find that you become less affected by pain as time goes on and that you need to up the levels in order to get that desired effect...that rush from the pain, that ability to get into subspace, etc.
If this is the case, do you ever worry that there may come a time where you have to go to extremes in order to satisfy your masochist needs?



yes....
I worry about my tolerance level ( pain threshhold) continuing to increase...
its not that I'm concerned in getting desired effects..but more so just wanting to experience more and more levels of intensity..

He reigns me in...often. ( says for my own safety)
and then I feel like I've somehow inadvertently caused him disappointment. 
 

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missturbation -> RE: Pain Thresholds (9/3/2007 7:25:56 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen68

I'm not a huge masochist, but I've found that the more I experience pain the more I'm able to tolerate it.  Do you find that you become less affected by pain as time goes on and that you need to up the levels in order to get that desired effect...that rush from the pain, that ability to get into subspace, etc.
I havent found it so far but in general the more you do something, the more you become used / immune to it.
If this is the case, do you ever worry that there may come a time where you have to go to extremes in order to satisfy your masochist needs?
No, i'm finding i like extremes so it does not worry me it twinks me [:D]






mnottertail -> RE: Pain Thresholds (9/3/2007 7:32:03 AM)

LA has threads of course...

but yeah, generally tolerance is increased thru training.  On the other hand, it also varies, in what strenght you can take when, somedays it is only a little, some days alot, depends on all kinda other stuff going on with your bodymind.

Ron




chellekitty -> RE: Pain Thresholds (9/3/2007 7:54:31 AM)

i used to worry about it...then i took a forced break because i didn't have anyone to play with because i was single and the people i played with on a regular basis outside of a relationship were unavailable due to shit going on in their own lives...now i get into trouble because i think that i can do what i used to do and it just ain't so...even the world class marathon runner has to train before doing a short marathon after 5 years of no running...

but yea...other than the break...as already mentioned...got used to the thuddy...there was nothing you could do to me thuddy that felt "painful" so i started asking for stingy...and i got it...now i do a combo...getting to the point of extreme stingy though - single tails and very thin, whippy canes...i think i am leaning towards stepping away from the imact though cause needles keeps catching my attention...ahh the evolution of play...does it ever go in a full circle or is kind of a clusterfuck when it starts to repeat?

anywho...
chelle




feastie -> RE: Pain Thresholds (9/3/2007 7:55:45 AM)

Anything which is done with any frequency becomes "old hat".  Variety is the spice of life.




LATEXBABY64 -> RE: Pain Thresholds (9/3/2007 7:58:33 AM)

understanding the body and were the more senstive areas are. is what a dom domme needs to make sure they know about you. this way they can apply pain with out really doing serious harm. thats why i love electro play :)




SubJordanTyler -> RE: Pain Thresholds (9/3/2007 10:26:27 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen68

I'm not a huge masochist, but I've found that the more I experience pain the more I'm able to tolerate it.  Do you find that you become less affected by pain as time goes on and that you need to up the levels in order to get that desired effect...that rush from the pain, that ability to get into subspace, etc.
If this is the case, do you ever worry that there may come a time where you have to go to extremes in order to satisfy your masochist needs?





Very much so, as I'm a masochist.  When I started, I couldn't take a lot of pain, but over time, I've been able to take enough to where someone watching from the outside might think I'm being abused.  I did build up a tolerance and because of that, my limits kept getting pushed and everything done to be because more intense.

But I'm not that much into whips and floggers and canes - things that will leave bruises and welts and possibly break something in me.  Most of the pain was though things like anal play (larger objects to stretch me), CBT (clamps, stretching, etc), uncomfortable bondage positions, hot wax (on cock and balls for pain) and things like that.

So as I became more tolerant of the pain from those things, the levels were just increased.  I don't feel I've reached extremes from any of these things or that I'm putting myself in real danger.  I might be worried more if I was getting whipped or caned, but that hasn't been much of a part of my pain play.




Viridana -> RE: Pain Thresholds (9/3/2007 10:35:06 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen68

I'm not a huge masochist, but I've found that the more I experience pain the more I'm able to tolerate it.  Do you find that you become less affected by pain as time goes on and that you need to up the levels in order to get that desired effect...that rush from the pain, that ability to get into subspace, etc.
If this is the case, do you ever worry that there may come a time where you have to go to extremes in order to satisfy your masochist needs?




Yes tolerance builds up. A friend of mine once said pain was like any kind of sport. You practice and practice and with time you can run faster, for longer and so on. But when you stop training ... you are one day going to end up on square one.

I play 2-3 times a week so I consider myself in good training pain wise. But there was this one period of my relationship that there was no play  at all for about 3-4 months. I clearly recocnized that my tolerance had somewhat (not largely though) gone down.

Your last question is very interesting. I've too wondered how it works. It seems very logical that if you can build up tolerance then one day you'll find yourself going to the extremes just to get a rush. However I'm also wondering if the pain/tolerance curve is more of a saturation curve rather than a totally linear one. That when you reach a certain level, tolerance will become a minor factor and you sort of never need to go further to get your rush. (I'm sorry english is not my first language so I really hope I've gotten this out right)




sadomasokisti -> RE: Pain Thresholds (9/3/2007 11:25:09 AM)

The fastest way to lower the pain threshold is to play when you are tired and hungry with a sadist you don't know well. Did that once and though I would die.

On the other hand I enjoy fairly heavy S&M play with my Mistress and sometimes up to the point short of creating permanent harm (are battle scars permanent harm?). 

Shifting focus between areas and implements gives the body back some of its sensitivity.




petdave -> RE: Pain Thresholds (9/3/2007 11:48:47 AM)

i do find that my pain tolerance has increased (how much pain i can withstand)... i do not see any significant change in my pain threshold (how much stimulation i can take before perceiving it as pain).  i've always had a freakishly high pain threshold, and a low tolerance, which is kind of irritating.
i don't see it leading to dangerous risks just because there are so many different ways to cause different types of pain, although i have a preference for things that leave scars, and that kinda builds up after a while [&:]




submittous -> RE: Pain Thresholds (9/3/2007 11:59:20 AM)

Over the years we have found to be virtually universal, pain tolerance and interest in pushing limits grows with time and experience.

Instead of just pushing the same things harder we often find our SM relationship goes in new and surprising directions and it those sorts of discoveries that make a M/s  bond so exciting... when we all take off and fly to new journeys the magic is overpowering.




ownedgirlie -> RE: Pain Thresholds (9/4/2007 3:10:13 AM)

I generally hate pain.  I am far from a masochist - at least in the physical sense.  I handle it because he wants me to.  I started out barely able to tolerate it, and now I handle it better, and it takes more to reach that "oh fuck fuckkkkkk" level...heh.  Today was actually a rare occasion when I broke through the pain barrier and went to a mental place where I really enjoyed it. So for me it's been incrementally more tolerable.




servantheart -> RE: Pain Thresholds (9/4/2007 5:34:29 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

I generally hate pain.  I am far from a masochist - at least in the physical sense.  I handle it because he wants me to.  I started out barely able to tolerate it, and now I handle it better, and it takes more to reach that "oh fuck fuckkkkkk" level...heh. 


This is me too.  I am no masochist and do not get off on pain, but I endure it because Master finds it pleasing.  I have found that I am able to tolerate more since the first time we played.   




softness -> RE: Pain Thresholds (9/4/2007 2:28:57 PM)

I hate pain ..my health means it is part of everyday for me ... i can certainly cope with pain far better because of constant exposure to it .. when i was younger main used to really get inside my head and freak me out - the biggest step was learning to box it off inside my head and toss the key away without the help of medication - though this means that pain based play doesn't ring the bells for me and fails to get the reactions desired by my partner ... luckily there are a millions wasy to be pleasing without being in pain




Mercnbeth -> RE: Pain Thresholds (9/4/2007 2:49:26 PM)

No.  the birth of the third replicant was just as painful as the first...this slave dealt with it similarly, however, by chanelling that pain into a calm, peaceful place and going with it.  instead of fighting it or registering that pain as unpleasant, this slave's brain exchanged it for pleasure and it became a glorious experience.
 
the pain this slave receives at Master's hand on her genital areas does nothing but arouse this slave until she is dripping wet and begging to cum...and he has never brought down his hand (including implement or not)with full force, either.
 
then again...these are the musings of a huge sexual masochist who can cum with little to no "warm-up", just a few strokes to the pink bits, and some begging...[;)]




chey -> RE: Pain Thresholds (9/4/2007 3:38:09 PM)

I have been thinking about this subject for the past few days. It is a coincidence that it was posted now.

I am also not a masochist but at times find myself wanting to be "beaten". I want my body to feel as if it is on fire and those are the times that it brings me to tears. I have also found that over time my body or maybe it is a combination of my body and my mind, can handle more. Like Ron pointed out though, one day I may be able to take a lot and the next day I feel as if I can't. Maybe that has to do with where my head is at? I don't know.

It feels strange to me that at times it becomes pleasurable to me because I know he loves it and I am able to give him that. I will never understand the way the brain is wired! I just accept it.

So far I have never worried that I will get to a point where I need so much that I am putting myself in danger. He also seems to find new places or new sensations, so it is always changing on me. Always something new to get used to. Again, that is for now. One day it could be an issue that would need to be addressed.




IvyMorgan -> RE: Pain Thresholds (9/4/2007 4:26:33 PM)

Softness:  Despite having chronic pain, and being in pain most if not all the time, I still enjoy being hurt.  But, yes, the learning to build a box thing, I completely sympathise, ridiculously hard, but worth it.




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