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RE: 24/7 - no way!! - 9/4/2007 3:09:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Archer

Glad you saw the difference in perspective as valuable missturbation.

For us it is a matter of
When she goes to the store, she does so in service to me.
When she picks up the kids from school she does so in service to me
When she takes a break so as to keep herself in good mental and physical working order for a lifetime, she does so in service to me.
It's the mindset, that everything my girl does from basic life things, to SM, to motherhood, to grocery shopping, to furthering her education, etc is done as part of her service to me. When viewed as such real life doesnt "Get in the way" it mearly provides different opportunities for service than those we expected.


I agree 100%.

This is my outlook on it and why "maintaing roles" and "being in control of this, that, and this makes me a True Dom" has no meaning to me.

Ownership is a mentality I desire to live and one that is quite fulfilling and blissful for me.

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RE: 24/7 - no way!! - 9/4/2007 3:36:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Before my Master offered His collar of slavery to me and before i accepted it, Wwe spoke extensively about what it would mean and what would be required, expected, wanted, and needed, in order to have a meaningful and satisfying Master/slave relationship together. 
 
It's not a matter of my Master staying within my limits.  It's a matter of both of Uus respecting the conditions of the agreement that Wwe made together, when Wwe entered into this relationship.  Wwe made an agreement with each other to live this life together in a manner that was satisfying to both of Uus and respecting of both His and my needs, wants, expectations, goals, etc.  If there had been a conflict in those needs/wants/expectations/goals/etc., Wwe would not have made the decision to become Master and slave. 
 
What Wwe have is a mutually beneficial relationship that meets what each of Uus was looking for.  If either of Uus were to ignore the covenant that Wwe made together and were to "stray" from Oour originally agreed upon conditions, that would be basis for either of Uus to "walk."  But, then again, that would be defeating the purpose of Oour relationship and neither of Uus wants to see that happen.  So, Wwe both work together to make this a beautifully meaningful and satisfying Master/slave relationship that will continue to flourish and allow each of Uus to grow, as the individuals that Wwe are, as well as to grow as the Master and slave couple that Wwe are.
 
It works, only because and, so long as, Wwe both want it to work.
 
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ORIGINAL: SuspendedInGaffa

This thread should be required reading for newbies like me, and has made me rethink my whole idea of 24/7.

I was fully aware it wasn't about leather and chains every hour of the day (if at all), but my problem was that a 24/7 submissive might not have any opportunities for freedom of expression or following their own interests. And again, what if I handed over total power to someone who then wanted to take on another lover/master/mistress/submissive - which I'd hate? Or made me go to the next family dinner dressed as Shirley Temple? OK, that one's a deliberately ridiculous example, just given to illustrate my worry about handing over total power. One Domme I was in contact with said I didn't understand TPE if I had a problem with her taking on another man, which confirmed some of my worst fears.

Some of the 24/7 relationships I've been reading about above seem like absolute models to strive for, and I guess the answer is down to being basically compatible in the first place, so that the dominant partner is unlikely to stray too far from their sub's limits. But theoretically, if total power has been handed over, couldn't the dominant partner decide to completely ignore those limits? I suppose you could say it's then time for the sub to walk away, but what if the dominant holds all the financial clout?

I'm still worried about it (maybe it's the amount of trust I have to give), but I'm leaning far closer to considering 24/7 than I ever was before.


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RE: 24/7 - no way!! - 9/4/2007 3:51:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you all for posting.  I have been looking for a 24/7 Mistress, and have found that everyones expectations are different.  I think if I had to wait on someone 24/7 hand and foot, i would be exausted.  However, most Dommes i have encountered like to do things for themselves, and even in a 24/7 do not expect you to be constantly "working".  I'm excited to learn for myself!

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RE: 24/7 - no way!! - 9/4/2007 4:03:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wow.  Lots of great responses to this topic.  I hope I can add something not already said by others.

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ORIGINAL: missturbation
So firstly what is your definition of 24/7?

I define 24/7 as an exchange of power that is happening all the time without breaks.  In my case, my wife/slave of 17+ years gives up her power to me all of the time.  It has only been in the last year or so that we have been living 24/7.  Prior to that we had some form of power dynamic, but it was not 24/7 for any length of time (a week or less).
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Secondly do you think it really is possible to live the dynamics 24/7?

Yes, but it requires a non-fantasy outlook.  For example, my slave is the only income for my household.  It is a great fantasy to have her naked all the time waiting on me hand and foot.  But if we want to eat, someone has to earn an income.  It also requires a large amount of self-control during those rare moments when emotions are running high and there is a large disagreement about an important topic. 
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And if you do live this 24/7, how do you manage it?

I manage it much in the same way others have described.  There are things that are important to me - happy slave, food on the table, well-rounded lives, etc.  I had to really sit down and think about what those things were and how all of the decisions I make impact them.  Rather than just do it by myself, I had my slave help by providing her thoughts and input on how my decision will impact things.  What ends up happening most of the time is exactly what would happen in any other relationship.  There is just the knowledge that at anytime, I could decide differently.  So, it is my decision if my slave works or not.  It is also my decision if she gets time to herself so she can be a complete and happy human being.

The really difficult part comes during a disagreement.  It isn't easy for me to keep an open mind about my slave's opinion when I feel strongly otherwise.  But I have to avoid the urge to disregard her and make a selfish decision.  And I know it isn't easy for her to accept the possibility that things may not go her way.  It takes a lot of self-control on both our parts to do what is right and still keep the power dynamic.  To me, those moments when things are most difficult are how they are handled are what makes the difference between 24/7 and something else.

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RE: 24/7 - no way!! - 9/4/2007 4:04:12 PM   
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You have a good grasp already of what it means to be in a M/s relationship, however, I just wanted to comment on a couple issues you stated in your post.
 
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but my problem was that a 24/7 submissive might not have any opportunities for freedom of expression or following their own interests
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You will find that when you commit yourself to a person that you are compatible with that they will go out of their way to see that you follow your interests and have freedom to express yourself. Most Dominants ( Male and Female) who look for 24/7 M/s relationships do not want a partner who is unable to think or do for themselves. It is their own personality and individuality that attracts them in the first place; why would they wish to stifle that?
 
As to a partner taking on another slave or submissive; this is something that you would have to discuss beforehand and agree to the terms. Some Dominants ARE poly; some are monogamous. You need to find one that works for YOU; not the other way around. Now granted, there are some who after some time make the decision that they are going to become poly no matter what YOU want or desire. What you have to do here is decide if this is something that you can compromise on. If it is not, then make sure you make it known BEFOREHAND that you will never consider a poly relationship in the future and that if this ever came up, it would destroy the relationship. Again though, this is something that you have to decide for yourself; no one else can decide it for you; not even someone you commit to.
 
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One Domme I was in contact with said I didn't understand TPE if I had a problem with her taking on another man, which confirmed some of my worst fears.
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This is wrong. What was not understood was the kind of relationship that you both were discussing. You obviously want monogamous; she was discussing poly. It was a lack of communication and nothing else.
 
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I guess the answer is down to being basically compatible in the first place, so that the dominant partner is unlikely to stray too far from their sub's limits
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Compatibility is important in any relationship; but what is more important is that there is communication. Without it, there is no relationship to hold on to. If a dominant (or submissive ) is going to stray, there is nothing that can be done to stop this unless the desires are communicated ahead of time and agreed upon.
 
----quote----
if total power has been handed over, couldn't the dominant partner decide to completely ignore those limits? I
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Yes, and it has happened before. That is why it is important to get to know the person you are with FIRST. Get to know them, communicate with them, TRUST them. If the person is trustworthy and their word means anything, they will never ignore the limits that are in place. Unfortunately, not everyone’s actions can be trusted sometimes.
 
Make informed decisions.


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RE: 24/7 - no way!! - 9/4/2007 4:11:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you, slave joy. What you've said about discussing and agreeing the parameters beforehand is what I'd always hoped and assumed. It's just that some of the Dommes' expectations, outlined in their profiles here, had led me to believe that I'd been mistaken, and that it was about what they said, from Day 1: no questions asked, no inital negotiation.

If it's a mutually agreed contract, drawn up at the start, then frankly I see no further impedence to my offering 24/7 to the right woman, who wants the same terms of engagement that I do. Although it does scare me that I've just written that!

Damn! I've only been here a couple of weeks, and I'm going to have to rewrite my profile for about the fourth time now. At the rate it's been changing, give it another couple of weeks and I'll probably be a lesbian dominatrix.

EDIT: And thank you too, IrishMist, for your excellent points, which I only read after I'd posted my answer to slave joy. I'd begun to think I was being naive in expecting exactly what you describe. But if that's what 24/7 can be, it sounds like total nirvana.


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RE: 24/7 - no way!! - 9/4/2007 4:25:57 PM   
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RE: 24/7 - no way!! - 9/4/2007 4:42:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Archer

With only that time here I might suggest that you write not what you are seeking at the moment but reather what you are doing currently in your journey.
Because as your journey unfolds you may find your sought relationships changing as well.


Thanks, Archer; I will do that. It's late here, but there'll be a complete rewrite tomorrow.

Being so new to BDSM, I'd been a bit reluctant to post in the more serious discussions here till now, assuming I'd get replies of the form, "This has been discussed a million times. See that 'Search' button?". So I'm glad I chanced my arm in this one - it's been very enlightening to hear from helpful people who've been there and are doing it.

Why, oh why was I vanilla for so long?

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RE: 24/7 - no way!! - 9/4/2007 5:09:35 PM   
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So firstly what is your definition of 24/7? 
 
I'm a  Domina 24/7 who juggles a vanilla/bdsm lifestyle and when it comes 2  24/7 sub's,cuck's ect.,it's the  "mental"  aspect of it all in my opinion.

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RE: 24/7 - no way!! - 9/4/2007 5:11:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: missturbation

I've been discussing the concept of living this lifestyle 24/7 with a few people recently and the conclusion we came to (opinion only) is that it's just not possible.
Now of course this would depend on your view of what 24/7 actually is! My view would be that the dynamic and servitude is in place 24/7. For me this is just not possible. I would be absolutely exhausted mentally and physically if i were to try this.
 
So firstly what is your definition of 24/7?
 
Secondly do you think it really is possible to live the dynamics 24/7?
 
And if you do live this 24/7, how do you manage it?
 
Pretty sure this will have been done before but i couldnt find anything so apologies if im being repetitive.


As many others have stated, D/s is not the same as BDSM.  If it were, then you would be right...no one could do it all day, every day and I have a feeling that not many would want to. 

But I am of the mindset that D/s is not BDSM, that instead BDSM is only a part of D/s...a fun part to be sure but in the long run, not all that large in terms of percentage of time taken up with BDSM activities.  D/s is the mindset I am in always when I have a partner.  As has been discussed on here before, I am always in dominant mode when dealing with her.  That does not mean we cannot sit down and enjoy television together or a movie or going out to eat or a myriad of things that most couples do with each other...but I am always the leader, the boss, the one who can exert his authority at any time I choose, whether she is at work or at home.  How and when I do so is an indication of how well I know my own relationship dynamic and how well I know the ongoing "living of her llife/my life/OUR life".

So, if by your question you mean can someone always obey and always follow orders or should have to, then my answer is yes, it can be done. If your question is in regards to always maintaining the D/s dynamic and not the BDSM one, then yes. Look to Mercnbeth or KOM's family or others on here to see.  If what you are doing is confusing BDSM activities with D/s and insisting that the two are the same, then I would disagree that it is impossible.

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RE: 24/7 - no way!! - 9/4/2007 5:14:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		i do feel it's a very good thing to have plenty of honest and indepth discussions before entering into a D/s or M/s relationship but, i only write about what i have experienced, personally, and about the relationship i have with my Master.  i know that it's not the same for everyone and others have different experiences.  i also feel that it's very important to find what works best for you and the person(s) you become involved with. 
 
Good luck in finding what you seek.
 
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SuspendedInGaffa

Thank you, slave joy. What you've said about discussing and agreeing the parameters beforehand is what I'd always hoped and assumed. It's just that some of the Dommes' expectations, outlined in their profiles here, had led me to believe that I'd been mistaken, and that it was about what they said, from Day 1: no questions asked, no inital negotiation.

If it's a mutually agreed contract, drawn up at the start, then frankly I see no further impedence to my offering 24/7 to the right woman, who wants the same terms of engagement that I do. Although it does scare me that I've just written that!

Damn! I've only been here a couple of weeks, and I'm going to have to rewrite my profile for about the fourth time now. At the rate it's been changing, give it another couple of weeks and I'll probably be a lesbian dominatrix.

EDIT: And thank you too, IrishMist, for your excellent points, which I only read after I'd posted my answer to slave joy. I'd begun to think I was being naive in expecting exactly what you describe. But if that's what 24/7 can be, it sounds like total nirvana.


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RE: 24/7 - no way!! - 9/7/2007 6:31:11 AM   
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This bears repeating:

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ORIGINAL: Archer

Total its really not the possitions that are the important thing here. It is the discussion of them. The fact is many people struggle with how to merge or even if to merge their everyday life with their D/s life. Sometimes it's best for the person not to other times the person really needs an integrated life. Without discussing how others achieved their integration or the reason they chose not to integrate them people have to reinvent the wheel every time. If through discussing how I or others have integrated their M/s relationship into thier life makes it a little easier for someone else to figure it out for themselves then the purpose of the forums and posts like this have been fulfilled.

It may seem obvious and sensless until you find yourself struggling with an issue yourself and turn for inspiration to other people and how they have handled similar things. 


Thank you, Sir; eloquently put… beautiful, in fact!  While I have always enjoyed the posts by you and your girl; I will be paying even more attention to what you have to say.  WOW
 
I just wanted to add a little something I wrote recently, to someone interested in my interest in BDSM (oh, and who asked why I ‘Sir’ him.  LOL):
 
“The thing is, I like BDSM.  I want some aspect of BDSM in my everyday life.  I also believe anybody in any relationship must work to make it work; must work to keep it fresh and alive, must work to keep it going in the direction the two want it to go.  I also happen to believe ‘work’ is not a bad word…and can be an easy thing, actually.  To that end, I like to ‘Sir’ Dominants; especially those whose company I enjoy, or the few I am specifically interested in knowing better.  I want a D/s relationship; I will work toward having one.

While there is nothing ‘role-play’ about the kind of lifestyle I hope to have, I still believe in ‘acting as if’…if that makes sense.  If I want to follow someone, then it is my belief I should not challenge everything that person does or what comes out of that person’s mouth.  That is not to say two people cannot live with TPE 24/7.  Like every other couple, there are some things I will know more about and understand I might take the lead on and there may be times when my partner will seek my council just because I am bright and level headed and he just likes and trusts me…but by and large, I am submissive and would choose to follow his lead.  I’m quite capable of taking care of myself and do not need to me micromanaged…but I like the exchange of power in a D/s relationship.”
 
Yes, I think that explains a lot…and like others here, I believe D/s is an aspect of BDSM, while BDSM (in general) are the activities within the relationship; whether it is Bondage & Discipline or Dominance & submission or Sadism & masochism.
 
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RE: 24/7 - no way!! - 9/25/2007 7:57:43 PM   
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RE: 24/7 - no way!! - 9/25/2007 8:20:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Master and I have been married for 10 years....we are 24/7 whether we like it or not!  LOL!  But seriously, i love being able to serve Master as he pleases, whenever her pleases, whatever he wants.

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RE: 24/7 - no way!! - 9/26/2007 4:30:32 AM   
hisannabelle


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Status: offline 		greetings missturbation,

my definition of 24/7 is related to the fact that a slave is who i am. we don't do m/s...we are master and slave. even when i am at work, or school, or not kneeling or being beaten or used...doesn't make me any less of a slave, because the way i think and live my life is structured around that identity. i don't think being 24/7 requires being live in (we are not, at this time; we live about 10 minutes away from one another). i am always his slave, regardless of if i'm at work or school...our relationship does not stop for other things, and my responsibilities as his slave and what he requires of me take precedence over other things. as someone else mentioned...i am at his beck and call 24/7.

yes, i do think it is possible to live m/s 24/7. and by my own understanding of 24/7, we do.

i think one of the reasons i have issues with most people's ideas/problems with 24/7 is this whole concept of being "on" and "off." i am not a lightswitch; where slavery is concerned, i am always "on," regardless of whether i'm tied up or at work, helping a customer. i don't separate my "vanilla life" from my "bdsm life" - i just have a life as a slave that involves a lot of things that normal, everyday people do, because that is what life is about for me. he would not WANT me to give up work and school and move in right this moment and be kneeling and in chains all the time...in fact, i think he'd get sick of it pretty damn quickly. but just because that is not the totality of what i/we do does not mean we are not "24/7." my identity as a slave defines who i am as a human being...it is not that i am only a slave sometimes and sometimes i am a "vanilla woman."

respectfully,
annabelle.

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RE: 24/7 - no way!! - 9/26/2007 6:10:32 AM   
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Do you not think though that 24/7 if independent and not working  would be physically and emotionally exhausting?


It can be. That would be a good time to sleep



Its been a looooong time since I've had such a good night's sleep.



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RE: 24/7 - no way!! - 9/26/2007 10:12:06 AM   
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Like many of those who have answered I believe it is a state of mind,  not a state of where you are.  My Master and I are 24/7 as some put it but we thnk of it as just being ourselves.  If he needs anything he can tell me any tme,  He can wake me up in the middle of the night to talk or whatever he needs.  He can call me and ask me to do things on my way home from school or the like.  He can call and ask for specific dinners,  or for specific thngs to be ready for him when he gets home.  24/7 to us is that I am completely available at ALL times. 

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RE: 24/7 - no way!! - 9/26/2007 10:45:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		As so many have eloquently stated....24/7 isn't at all impossible.

For many, bdsm is just something to play with in the bedroom. For others, it's not strictly about bdsm, but about D/s. If I am breathing, I'm wanting to be in control...making me Dominant 24/7. My top boy has been with me for 11 years. Our relationship is very symbiotic; taking care of me and helping me accomplish all the things I hope for in life gives him a deep sense of fulfillment, and a sense of direction and focus in his life he didn't have before.

When he's at work during the day, he's working for me. He is my slave, 24/7, through and through, though it /is/ something we are constantly working at and refining, making better. Communication between us is ... very transparent, and while I won't say that it's a perfect relationship...I've yet to see one around me that is better.  We have /so much fun/...and I'm not even talking about the bedroom/sexual aspects. Just life, in general.

I'm demanding, because I'm self aware enough to know exactly what it takes to make me really happy.
By learning me well enough to know what I need to be happy...and by doing the things that make me happy, he experiences me being... actually happy! (crazy, right?), and he's happy that he can help to create that. With so few people in the world that are truly happy....it's kind of refreshing to be around each other after we've each spent time "out in the world". Home becomes a sanctuary where things make sense, if only to us. ;)

What we have is what we've made it.  Gawds, relationships are hard-ass work. ::laughing!:: But it's so rewarding, to have these opportunities to learn so much about ourselves.

PS. I've yet to see a healthy D/s relationship that wasn't built on deep mutual respect...regardless of role.





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RE: 24/7 - no way!! - 9/26/2007 11:52:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with scarlot's post and almost always agree with sunshine... Many folks on this and other threads have explained why 24/7 works for them... I note there seem to be a few folks here on collarme who have taken it as their lifes work to nay say about any form of bdsm that they think is "not possible" (or maybe not possible for them). They seem to be the same posters over and over that don't want to believe that people make bdsm the focus of their lives, have TPE relationships, engage in consensual non-consent or "no limits" bdsm, etc. Personally I think they are exposing their own limitations rather than showing us all how smart they are (which I think is their goal).

This thread was enjoyable to read for all the accepting and open posters who support serious and even hard core bdsm as a way of life. Gladdens my heart.

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